Queued random veteran twice today as a tank. Both times, got put into a group that was stuck at first boss in Vet Scalecaller Peak and this is not even the pledge today. Decided I'd just not play dungeons today with my tanks. It appears the tank shortage is getting so bad I'm getting put into the same exact problem group twice in a row. If these dungeons were so desirable, you'd think another tank would have helped them out by now.

When I came in saw a message similar to "you shouldn't be surprised, going to be a lot of wipes in a scalecaller PUG". Yeah, sorry guys, don't got time for that. I refuse to break my gear and spend hours on a DLC dungeon because someone decided they wanted a Zaan helmet today and decided to queue up to PUG for it.

disintegr8 wrote: »

Why do random vets when you get the same XP from normals?

I'll use vet group finder only for specific dungeons if I have a reason to run them, never for random.

Personally, because I am over max CP and just want the challenge and the geode. It would be nice to have a better granularity on difficulty. I am pretty sick of fungal grotto 1 and the other easier vet dungeons so wouldn't mind having a random DLC dungeon if I knew everyone had explicitly queued for that extra challenge.

They could simply just remove DLC dungeons from the random queue altogether. I don't think anyone would be disappointed. I love the DLC dungeons, but they aren't designed for random PUGing.

The day they do this is the day that I resubscribe.

until then.....no sub for you!!!

I have enjoyed DLC free dungeons for a year now and it is wonderful!! Especially doing veterans. I am dreading the forced ESO plus event coming up. I won't be able to queue any random dungeons during the event

heaven13 wrote: »

I queued for a random vet on my healer. Immediately get tossed into a half complete Fang Lair which was not the pledge. Looking at group composition there were 2 dps and a healer. I'm not sure WHAT happened there, but I graciously ( ) bowed out since there already was a healer (who also said they'd leave so I could stay). The penalty was worth avoiding the frustration.

I queued into weird stuff like that too and there's always some complicated story. It usually involves a person in the group who is 100% set on completing the dungeon to get x piece of gear. One of them probably switched roles to try to complete, could have even went back to town to respec and been in and out of that dungeon for 3 hours wiping on Menagerie.

I also am noticing those DLC groups I get put into randomly often have DPS that are close to the minimum CP just to queue up to do the dungeon. I've never seen a group like that being successful in the newer DLC because that minimum requirement is not enough in a PUG environment. I got put into a Moonhunter Keep like that today (both DPS CP 300ish) and chose not to stick around.

The people queueing for vet DLC PUGs should get some friends together and to learn the dungeon, not pull everyone else into a wipefest. I just keep telling myself it's not their fault and they don't know any better. They are also being punished when players instant leave after seeing the load screen then the group.

Let's put it this way, if 99% of the random vet DLC group finder PUGs are fizzling out/not completing the dungeons, why is this even a thing? It indicates a massive problem with the design of group finder. My main issue remains that I'm paying extra to get my time wasted on random DLC PUGs while the non-ESO+ member enjoys easy mode random vet dungeons all day.