Do you support getting more non-5-piece sets?

Lyserus · November 2018

^This
Currently we have 12 slots for our gear （2 of which are switchable via weapon swap）, and basically the standard is 5+5+2 or 5+3+2+2, and those 2 or 3 are always taking the same slot （monster helm/shoulder, jewel and weapon）. However I do feel like this system is less flexible and maybe some changea will do it good.

1.Get some of the less popular sets and utility sets to 4 or even 3 piece. Some of the set abilities are not “trash” per say, but do have way better alternatives for 5 gear slots. So why not change them to 4 or 3 （hell even 2 for some cases）and make them more viable?

2.Overland loot drop 1-piece. I feel like, the old system with some unique gears have 1 advantage than put gears into sets - in “wild” （non-farming）gameplay time, the loots are no longer that exciting when all you get is another piece for a 5 piece set, and you know 95% of them are trash （and currently all 2-piece and 3-piece are soecial gears you can't get by just exploring and wandering）. Get some thicc 1-piece bonus jewel/armor/weapon out in the wild, they will be the perfect solutions for awkward situations when you don't have another good set bonus due to lack of slots, and creates excitement while getting “wild” loots

The above two points are just examples tho, the core of this discussion is about whether creating more less-than-5-piece sets is great for build versatility and other stuff

oxygen_thief · November 2018

Other （please state thoughts）

i dont care

Lyserus · November 2018

Yes and change some old underperformed sets to less-than-5-piece sets

oxygen_thief wrote: »

i dont care

very constructive and insightful comment! ZOS should hire you as their advisor

Gilvoth · November 2018

Yes and change some old underperformed sets to less-than-5-piece sets

this sounds interesting.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · November 2018

There a few 3 piece sets in the game, or were, see here-

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Jewelry_Sets

Buff any of these, by at least 50%.

idk · November 2018

No （please state reasons）

We already have the most involved system I have seen in any game with all the choices we have. This would just make balancing even more challenging, adding another layer.

themaddaedra · November 2018

Yes and change some old underperformed sets to less-than-5-piece sets

We used to have 2 piece sets, one piece sets, 3 piece sets that were all good back in time and it kinda improved diversity. So i'd like to have that sort of stuff again but i think ZoS is going crazy lazy design and they wouldn't bother. They'll just keep making more and more and more 5 piece proc sets and they all will end up relatively same.

Like this one procs when u do light attack, other procs when u sneeze, here's one that procs when u shout out loud in combat etc. At least we have some different options for single target and aoe setups, for solo or group content.

RaddlemanNumber7 · November 2018

No （please state reasons）

Odd non-standardised numbers of pieces in a set make it harder for players to make up a coherent 12-piece ensemble. 5+5+2 works just fine for me.

Also makes it harder for the devs to avoid crazily unbalanced builds.

MaleAmazon · November 2018

Yes and change some old underperformed sets to less-than-5-piece sets

Yeah, I think we need some 4-piece stuff. You could go 4+4+4, 4+4+2+2 with monster mask + trial 2p, 5+4+3 with the agility/endurance etc sets...

Also makes it harder for the devs to avoid crazily unbalanced builds.

Cat´s sort of out of the bag on that one though. And if anything many set bonuses are too bland. I don´t think there is anything you can do amazingly better with '+400 WD to weapon X abilities' than you can with Hunding´s´ / Julianos´ 5 piece bonus. Especially considering the design to weave light and heavy attacks.

Emma_Overload · November 2018

Yes but only in future contents

I think the greatest need is for CRAFTABLE 2-piece sets.

ezio45 · November 2018

Other （please state thoughts）

ill take a 2 pc that removes the shield cap and makes it uneffected by crit

other than that I dont care cuz i cant do any content

leeux · November 2018

Yes and change some old underperformed sets to less-than-5-piece sets

Yeah, I really liked some of the old 3 piece weapon or jewelry sets that were available from Cyrodiil at some point or another.

Also there were a few rare 2 or 3 piece sets that dropped sometimes from dungeon bosses too... I'd love to have some of those back.

oxygen_thief · November 2018

Other （please state thoughts）

Lyserus wrote: »

oxygen_thief wrote: »

i dont care

very constructive and insightful comment! ZOS should hire you as their advisor

you can support whatever you want but zos doesnt care. if they will add some set i bet it will be a cheesiest thing kind of sloads in a paid dlc.

Finviuswe · November 2018

I always did. Non-5 piece sets add variety and increase creativity within the game, so I am generally in support of it.

Danikat · November 2018

I'm against changing existing 5 piece sets into 4 or less simply because then there's less choice.

Yes the 5 piece set might be useless for you, right now, but that's not necessarily going to be the case for everyone, all the time. Otherwise why do so many people hold onto every single set piece they get even though it apparently makes the game barely playable because they have so little inventory space?

At the moment you already have the option to use it as a 2, 3 or 4 piece set simply by equipping fewer pieces. And if there's a balance change in the future, or someone has a new idea for a build which makes the 5 piece bonus worth taking then it's available to use. Whereas if your idea was put in place you could only use it as a 2/3/4 piece set, if later on you decide that 5th bonus would be useful then sorry, it's gone, you'll have to substitute something else.

Also I highly doubt you'd get everyone to agree on which sets should stay as 5 pieces and which should be reduced. Yes I know there's a meta-game which forces "everyone" to use the same builds, but relatively few people actually follow that and even they don't always agree on which sets to use.

Ok you might be thinking that this would force people to realise they're using a 'useless' set and to learn to use what some random on youtube had picked out for them instead, but again all that's doing is reducing build diversity.

MaleAmazon · November 2018

Yes and change some old underperformed sets to less-than-5-piece sets

I'm against changing existing 5 piece sets into 4 or less simply because then there's less choice.

I assumed they meant putting the 5th piece bonus as a 4th piece bonus?

phaneub17_ESO · November 2018

Did you know that Crafted sets used to be smaller bonuses? Like the Start Zone crafted sets in Auridon, Glenumbra, and Stonefalls used to have only a 2pc set bonus and 3pc would give you their ultimate effect? The next zones after had a 2pc and 3pc set bonus with 4pc being their ultimate. Only the last 2 zones were full 5pc for ultimate effect.

Gatviper · November 2018

Other （please state thoughts）

It always boggled me that you can't run the same set for full 5 bonuses twice, as after you complete a set with 5 parts, it stops counting any additional part of the same set.
That could have been a good change, I think. Imagine running Julianos 5x + Julianos 5x. Possible new meta, and within easy reach.

Latios · November 2018

Yes and change some old underperformed sets to less-than-5-piece sets

Well, that's a good idea. Trash sets are pretty useless as 5 piece sets, so reducing the needed pieces might be good.

Bergzorn · November 2018

Some of the existing jewellery sets (like Willpower) were BIS for many builds quite a while. They got less attractive over time with the introduction of newer sets, but what made them mediocre was that ZOS decided to buff the stat boni given by 5pc sets while not changing the 3pc sets. Making the 3pc sets comparably weaker was done fully intentional as stated by ZOS (I don't remember if they told us the reason).

It would be a good start to buff the old 3pc sets a little.

Salvas_Aren · November 2018

Lyserus wrote: »

oxygen_thief wrote: »

i dont care

very constructive and insightful comment! ZOS should hire you as their advisor

Sad thing, this is so true. :'(

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · November 2018

No （please state reasons）

not really cuz they are forcing us specific set combos in order to make them work properly...and most of the time u have to drop monster set for a weapon set which doesnt rly makes it better cuz right now the majority of the weapon sets are just meh-ish...not to mention there is just a a fix number who are actually used..meaning vma flame staff/dsa resto/asyl flame probably but im not sure about that anymore and vma bow...everything else is pretty much replaceable but those 4 are kinda must have...so if you keep making other interesting but not on the same page with the rest is just pointless to even do it in the 1st place.

karekiz · November 2018

No （please state reasons）

Why not just change current 5 piece sets 0_o.

Remember though:

Not everything is meant to or supposed to try and be BIS

zaria · November 2018

Give Khajiit and Argoinians tail pieces for armor and this one would support it.

CooksWithoutARecipe · November 2018

Yes but only in future contents

I'd definitely be in favor of more 2 piece weapon sets. Something that is of moderate difficulty to get, so that there are some options in between agility/willpower and VMA/Master gear.

CatchMeTrolling · November 2018

No （please state reasons）

Honestly prefer the 5 piece and two piece monster set way. The rest is unnecessary.

At best two piece weapon sets but in my opinion zos never implement them in the best ways. At least not since you could get master weapons from pvp. Bring back multiple options to get good sets rather than just pve and I’ll support it.

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