Do you think every magsorc uses crystal frags on their build? Do you think it's nice to force us to either create a build that uses frags or else we are stuck with mother's sorrow set to not rely on fragsorc (or other heavily crit based sets). Petsorcs and netchstouchsorcs are excluded. I won't use that awful recovery skill either that costs 1,2s to cast during a boss fight.
What about the other magclasses that can't access minor prophecy??
(Btw the same complain applies to stamclasses and their 3% crit nerf too)
Alpha-Lupi wrote: »Do you think every magsorc uses crystal frags on their build? Do you think it's nice to force us to either create a build that uses frags or else we are stuck with mother's sorrow set to not rely on fragsorc (or other heavily crit based sets). Petsorcs and netchstouchsorcs are excluded. I won't use that awful recovery skill either that costs 1,2s to cast during a boss fight.
What about the other magclasses that can't access minor prophecy??
(Btw the same complain applies to stamclasses and their 3% crit nerf too)
Have you tried the Treasure Hunter set? it provides major prophecy at all times while also adding up to 100 extra spell damage on the 5th piece (at the cost of being unable to use major prophecy from other sources such as potions, slotting certain abilities, etc.) It can also help manage your ability setup easier since you won't need to slot an ability such as magelight to gain major prophecy.
Alpha-Lupi wrote: »Do you think every magsorc uses crystal frags on their build? Do you think it's nice to force us to either create a build that uses frags or else we are stuck with mother's sorrow set to not rely on fragsorc (or other heavily crit based sets). Petsorcs and netchstouchsorcs are excluded. I won't use that awful recovery skill either that costs 1,2s to cast during a boss fight.
What about the other magclasses that can't access minor prophecy??
(Btw the same complain applies to stamclasses and their 3% crit nerf too)
Have you tried the Treasure Hunter set? it provides major prophecy at all times while also adding up to 100 extra spell damage on the 5th piece (at the cost of being unable to use major prophecy from other sources such as potions, slotting certain abilities, etc.) It can also help manage your ability setup easier since you won't need to slot an ability such as magelight to gain major prophecy.
Alpha-Lupi wrote: »Do you think every magsorc uses crystal frags on their build? Do you think it's nice to force us to either create a build that uses frags or else we are stuck with mother's sorrow set to not rely on fragsorc (or other heavily crit based sets). Petsorcs and netchstouchsorcs are excluded. I won't use that awful recovery skill either that costs 1,2s to cast during a boss fight.
What about the other magclasses that can't access minor prophecy??
(Btw the same complain applies to stamclasses and their 3% crit nerf too)
Have you tried the Treasure Hunter set? it provides major prophecy at all times while also adding up to 100 extra spell damage on the 5th piece (at the cost of being unable to use major prophecy from other sources such as potions, slotting certain abilities, etc.) It can also help manage your ability setup easier since you won't need to slot an ability such as magelight to gain major prophecy.
He's talking MINOR Prophecy, from the Exploitation passive, unique to sorcs.
Alpha-Lupi wrote: »Do you think every magsorc uses crystal frags on their build? Do you think it's nice to force us to either create a build that uses frags or else we are stuck with mother's sorrow set to not rely on fragsorc (or other heavily crit based sets). Petsorcs and netchstouchsorcs are excluded. I won't use that awful recovery skill either that costs 1,2s to cast during a boss fight.
What about the other magclasses that can't access minor prophecy??
(Btw the same complain applies to stamclasses and their 3% crit nerf too)
Have you tried the Treasure Hunter set? it provides major prophecy at all times while also adding up to 100 extra spell damage on the 5th piece (at the cost of being unable to use major prophecy from other sources such as potions, slotting certain abilities, etc.) It can also help manage your ability setup easier since you won't need to slot an ability such as magelight to gain major prophecy.
I already slot inner light, since it gives me 7% max magicka and 2% magicka recovery. I know about this set but I prefer other sets lol
inner light(major prophecy) + netch's touch(bonus to spell critical) + destruction mastery (bonus to spell critical) + slimecraw (every piece from every set is golden, except jewelry, slimecraw also gives spell critical) = 50% spell critical. If I replace destruction mastery for julianos, it won't do much either. My staff is infused and I won't change that since I love proccing shock dmg glyph, and my mundus is lover (and I won't change to thief since I hate Spell Erosion CP because it's so costly, investing on other things on CP is much better than wasting dozens of points there to increase 1%).
Alpha-Lupi wrote: »Alpha-Lupi wrote: »Do you think every magsorc uses crystal frags on their build? Do you think it's nice to force us to either create a build that uses frags or else we are stuck with mother's sorrow set to not rely on fragsorc (or other heavily crit based sets). Petsorcs and netchstouchsorcs are excluded. I won't use that awful recovery skill either that costs 1,2s to cast during a boss fight.
What about the other magclasses that can't access minor prophecy??
(Btw the same complain applies to stamclasses and their 3% crit nerf too)
Have you tried the Treasure Hunter set? it provides major prophecy at all times while also adding up to 100 extra spell damage on the 5th piece (at the cost of being unable to use major prophecy from other sources such as potions, slotting certain abilities, etc.) It can also help manage your ability setup easier since you won't need to slot an ability such as magelight to gain major prophecy.
He's talking MINOR Prophecy, from the Exploitation passive, unique to sorcs.
I know, but have you actually considered the combination of the two for enhanced crit'ability? (Because I have along with the calculus of Spell precision, Treasure Hunter, minor & major Prophecy and more.)Alpha-Lupi wrote: »Do you think every magsorc uses crystal frags on their build? Do you think it's nice to force us to either create a build that uses frags or else we are stuck with mother's sorrow set to not rely on fragsorc (or other heavily crit based sets). Petsorcs and netchstouchsorcs are excluded. I won't use that awful recovery skill either that costs 1,2s to cast during a boss fight.
What about the other magclasses that can't access minor prophecy??
(Btw the same complain applies to stamclasses and their 3% crit nerf too)
Have you tried the Treasure Hunter set? it provides major prophecy at all times while also adding up to 100 extra spell damage on the 5th piece (at the cost of being unable to use major prophecy from other sources such as potions, slotting certain abilities, etc.) It can also help manage your ability setup easier since you won't need to slot an ability such as magelight to gain major prophecy.
I already slot inner light, since it gives me 7% max magicka and 2% magicka recovery. I know about this set but I prefer other sets lol
inner light(major prophecy) + netch's touch(bonus to spell critical) + destruction mastery (bonus to spell critical) + slimecraw (every piece from every set is golden, except jewelry, slimecraw also gives spell critical) = 50% spell critical. If I replace destruction mastery for julianos, it won't do much either. My staff is infused and I won't change that since I love proccing shock dmg glyph, and my mundus is lover (and I won't change to thief since I hate Spell Erosion CP because it's so costly, investing on other things on CP is much better than wasting dozens of points there to increase 1%).
Interesting Acquisition of knowledge.
Pure nerf to all non-sorc magicka builds. Complained about it a month ago - was told it was for the group play of the game smh.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »what do your bars look like that you cant slot frags?
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »what do your bars look like that you cant slot frags?
do you know that there's lightning based builds (netch's touch) and pet builds, light atk/heavy atk builds that won't proc frags either right? there's a mandatory major sorcery skill (surge or entropy), major prophecy from inner light, magshield, bound aegis if you like to min/max.
not everyone likes to slot that bland-cheap-a$$ force pulse skill and frags combo, since force pulse procs frags easily.
Why should you expect all builds to get access to all the same buffs?
3% spell critical does not make or break a build. This update will already giving 5% more spell damage, as long there is a Templar in your group to balance it out.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »what do your bars look like that you cant slot frags?
do you know that there's lightning based builds (netch's touch) and pet builds, light atk/heavy atk builds that won't proc frags either right? there's a mandatory major sorcery skill (surge or entropy), major prophecy from inner light, magshield, bound aegis if you like to min/max.
not everyone likes to slot that bland-cheap-a$$ force pulse skill and frags combo, since force pulse procs frags easily.
I asked a simple question, please answer.
Why should you expect all builds to get access to all the same buffs?
3% spell critical does not make or break a build. This update will already giving 5% more spell damage, as long there is a Templar in your group to balance it out.
Well if you want to look at it how it actually happened - all builds outside of group play got nerfs - this wasn't just a nice buff, ZOS stole this 3% from the 2 stars in the CP related to Weapon/Spell Critical... they were each nerfed from 12% to 9%. Also 3% is not always small...3% Spell Critical can account for 1-3k DPS depending - that's a huge hit. You are trying to play this off as a buff - but it's not, it's a half-handed nerf and redistribution of the critical to groups only.
You shouldn't HAVE to be grouped up in the game to mitigate blatant nerfs, in my opinon. I play a Mag DK and we already have severe limits on our DPS abilities compared to other classes - any % lost is a huge nerf for us... there's only so much I can do to boost my DPS and now I've just lost 3% crit straight up, on my build that's result in ~1.8k less damage from my rotation overall.
This game never used to force grouping down people's throat at all times, only when it was necessary (i.e. dungeons) - in fact this game was always great for respecting people's wishes to play solo and not have to suffer hugely. We can PVP solo, we can play 99% of the game solo - but now we're going to suffer nerfs for "group" synergy even though we all know groups are gonna stay largely the same split they are now anyway - the only that changes is that now the people nerfed have to rely on somebody else to give them their stats back. That's literally the only change.
When you say "why should all builds get access to the same buff?" The answer is simple - it wasn't a buff. They took away CP that benefited 100% of all players, and gave it to specific classes which will benefit 100% of the time - but the other 80% of people who once had those buffs from CP are now screwed unless they group up. It was a buff to nobody, and a nerf to 80% of people. Plain and simple.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »what do your bars look like that you cant slot frags?
do you know that there's lightning based builds (netch's touch) and pet builds, light atk/heavy atk builds that won't proc frags either right? there's a mandatory major sorcery skill (surge or entropy), major prophecy from inner light, magshield, bound aegis if you like to min/max.
not everyone likes to slot that bland-cheap-a$$ force pulse skill and frags combo, since force pulse procs frags easily.
I asked a simple question, please answer.
Why should you expect all builds to get access to all the same buffs?
3% spell critical does not make or break a build. This update will already giving 5% more spell damage, as long there is a Templar in your group to balance it out.
Netch's Touch is a bad set. BSW, Spell Strategist, even Julianos beats it in raw DPS.
I'm sorry that you choose to refuse to slot even a single skill from one of three trees available to the class and as a result cannot use skills you do not have slotted.
My sympathies.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »what do your bars look like that you cant slot frags?
do you know that there's lightning based builds (netch's touch) and pet builds, light atk/heavy atk builds that won't proc frags either right? there's a mandatory major sorcery skill (surge or entropy), major prophecy from inner light, magshield, bound aegis if you like to min/max.
not everyone likes to slot that bland-cheap-a$$ force pulse skill and frags combo, since force pulse procs frags easily.
I asked a simple question, please answer.
Yeah, pet sorc don't run frags.
flappy, imp, d-touch, bound aegis, prey -- atro
flappy, imp, wrath, blockade, liquid lightning -- destro ult
this is not unusual.
force pulse doesn't proc frags any more or less than any other skill, but heavy attack max magicka builds like pet sorcs won't be spamming skills enough to make slotting frags worthwhile. Because they are heavy attack focused dark deal is also out.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »what do your bars look like that you cant slot frags?
do you know that there's lightning based builds (netch's touch) and pet builds, light atk/heavy atk builds that won't proc frags either right? there's a mandatory major sorcery skill (surge or entropy), major prophecy from inner light, magshield, bound aegis if you like to min/max.
not everyone likes to slot that bland-cheap-a$$ force pulse skill and frags combo, since force pulse procs frags easily.
I asked a simple question, please answer.
I won't give you my build if that's what you are asking. Good luck on finding yours on YouTube lol
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »what do your bars look like that you cant slot frags?
do you know that there's lightning based builds (netch's touch) and pet builds, light atk/heavy atk builds that won't proc frags either right? there's a mandatory major sorcery skill (surge or entropy), major prophecy from inner light, magshield, bound aegis if you like to min/max.
not everyone likes to slot that bland-cheap-a$$ force pulse skill and frags combo, since force pulse procs frags easily.
I asked a simple question, please answer.
Yeah, pet sorc don't run frags.
flappy, imp, d-touch, bound aegis, prey -- atro
flappy, imp, wrath, blockade, liquid lightning -- destro ult
this is not unusual.
force pulse doesn't proc frags any more or less than any other skill, but heavy attack max magicka builds like pet sorcs won't be spamming skills enough to make slotting frags worthwhile. Because they are heavy attack focused dark deal is also out.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »what do your bars look like that you cant slot frags?
do you know that there's lightning based builds (netch's touch) and pet builds, light atk/heavy atk builds that won't proc frags either right? there's a mandatory major sorcery skill (surge or entropy), major prophecy from inner light, magshield, bound aegis if you like to min/max.
not everyone likes to slot that bland-cheap-a$$ force pulse skill and frags combo, since force pulse procs frags easily.
I asked a simple question, please answer.
Yeah, pet sorc don't run frags.
flappy, imp, d-touch, bound aegis, prey -- atro
flappy, imp, wrath, blockade, liquid lightning -- destro ult
this is not unusual.
force pulse doesn't proc frags any more or less than any other skill, but heavy attack max magicka builds like pet sorcs won't be spamming skills enough to make slotting frags worthwhile. Because they are heavy attack focused dark deal is also out.
As far as I know force pulse counts as 3 hits and it is 3 times easier to proc frags. Or was that just a myth?
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »what do your bars look like that you cant slot frags?
do you know that there's lightning based builds (netch's touch) and pet builds, light atk/heavy atk builds that won't proc frags either right? there's a mandatory major sorcery skill (surge or entropy), major prophecy from inner light, magshield, bound aegis if you like to min/max.
not everyone likes to slot that bland-cheap-a$$ force pulse skill and frags combo, since force pulse procs frags easily.
I asked a simple question, please answer.
Yeah, pet sorc don't run frags.
flappy, imp, d-touch, bound aegis, prey -- atro
flappy, imp, wrath, blockade, liquid lightning -- destro ult
this is not unusual.
force pulse doesn't proc frags any more or less than any other skill, but heavy attack max magicka builds like pet sorcs won't be spamming skills enough to make slotting frags worthwhile. Because they are heavy attack focused dark deal is also out.
Thank you for that. I actually run a pet sorc. My bars look like this-
Inner light- scamp- matriarch- deadric prey- crystal frags- ulti destro ulti
Power surge- scamp- matriarch- lightning flood- unstable blockade, ulti atro
You only need to proc frags once every 20 seconds and since I run a 6 second rotation, that is easy to maintain. Don't really see why you need drestro touch on the front bar. Pretty bad dps skill.Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »what do your bars look like that you cant slot frags?
do you know that there's lightning based builds (netch's touch) and pet builds, light atk/heavy atk builds that won't proc frags either right? there's a mandatory major sorcery skill (surge or entropy), major prophecy from inner light, magshield, bound aegis if you like to min/max.
not everyone likes to slot that bland-cheap-a$$ force pulse skill and frags combo, since force pulse procs frags easily.
I asked a simple question, please answer.
I won't give you my build if that's what you are asking. Good luck on finding yours on YouTube lol
You are super aggressive for no reason. Seek out therapy.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »what do your bars look like that you cant slot frags?
do you know that there's lightning based builds (netch's touch) and pet builds, light atk/heavy atk builds that won't proc frags either right? there's a mandatory major sorcery skill (surge or entropy), major prophecy from inner light, magshield, bound aegis if you like to min/max.
not everyone likes to slot that bland-cheap-a$$ force pulse skill and frags combo, since force pulse procs frags easily.
I asked a simple question, please answer.
Yeah, pet sorc don't run frags.
flappy, imp, d-touch, bound aegis, prey -- atro
flappy, imp, wrath, blockade, liquid lightning -- destro ult
this is not unusual.
force pulse doesn't proc frags any more or less than any other skill, but heavy attack max magicka builds like pet sorcs won't be spamming skills enough to make slotting frags worthwhile. Because they are heavy attack focused dark deal is also out.
Thank you for that. I actually run a pet sorc. My bars look like this-
Inner light- scamp- matriarch- deadric prey- crystal frags- ulti destro ulti
Power surge- scamp- matriarch- lightning flood- unstable blockade, ulti atro
You only need to proc frags once every 20 seconds and since I run a 6 second rotation, that is easy to maintain. Don't really see why you need drestro touch on the front bar. Pretty bad dps skill.Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »what do your bars look like that you cant slot frags?
do you know that there's lightning based builds (netch's touch) and pet builds, light atk/heavy atk builds that won't proc frags either right? there's a mandatory major sorcery skill (surge or entropy), major prophecy from inner light, magshield, bound aegis if you like to min/max.
not everyone likes to slot that bland-cheap-a$$ force pulse skill and frags combo, since force pulse procs frags easily.
I asked a simple question, please answer.
I won't give you my build if that's what you are asking. Good luck on finding yours on YouTube lol
You are super aggressive for no reason. Seek out therapy.
Assuming you heavy attack every rotation, try slotting clench. Hit clench while also holding heavy attack. Clench will pop off at the end of heavy attack, bar swap and continue the rotation. You will be surprised at how much more dps you will get by swapping out frags for clench.