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FIX PET TARGETING PLEASE
Aurielle
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https://youtu.be/IKEEQwDGq8UI’ll let this brief video (which I had to mute, for what will probably be obvious reasons) speak for itself while I’m off playing Red Dead Redemption 2.
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jcm2606✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭100% agree. Pet targeting needs to be completely removed. It is even more cancerous on pet sorcs, when they drop their atronach then strafe behind the atronach, making it actually impossible to hit them.
What truly pisses me off, though, is when I cast an ability targeting somebody, and the game casts it at something else completely, whether it be a pet or a player. Leap into a crowd? Nah, leap into the matriarch flying in front of you.Edited by jcm2606 on November 8, 2018 11:21AM6 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭100% agree. Pet targeting needs to be completely removed. It is even more cancerous on pet sorcs, when they drop their atronach then strafe behind the atronach, making it actually impossible to hit them.
What truly pisses me off, though, is when I cast an ability targeting somebody, and the game casts it as something else completely, whether it be a pet or a player. Leap into a crowd? Nah, leap into the matriarch flying in front of you.
I hate that too. There is NOTHING WORSE than wasting an ultimate — especially a single target ultimate — on a ***** pet.
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Transairion✭✭✭✭✭That video doesn't explain your complaint at all so I'll label it clickbait... if there are multiple Pack Leader Werewolves in a Battleground then yeah, there's going to be multiple Dire Wolves and the all-werewolf form premade is going to stack on each other and benefit from the Werewolf Pack passives...
What's this got to do with pet targeting again? If a pet has health and can be CC'd, it's gonna be targetable...Edited by Transairion on November 7, 2018 6:05AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Transairion wrote: »That video doesn't explain your complaint at all so I'll label it clickbait... if there are multiple Pack Leader Werewolves in a Battleground then yeah, there's going to be multiple Dire Wolves and the all-werewolf form premade is going to stack on each other and benefit from the Werewolf Pack passives...
What's this got to do with pet targeting again? If a pet has health and can be CC'd, it's gonna be targetable...
It makes anyone using pets far more tanky than any set or skill, double pet sorc is almost impossible to aim because of huge hit boxes of pets, all you can do is to try aoe this party.Say no to Toxic Casuals!
I am doing my best, but I am not a native speaker, sorry.
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Komputerheld✭✭✭I think nobody likes to waste a ultimate for engine guardian, werewolf pack or some sorc pet. But I hate it even more, when I can´t aim at a player at all... because it´s a cloaked sniper NB.3 -
Mr_Wolfe✭✭✭@Aurielle Your video certainly does speak for itself.
You went into a BG with no CC skills other than clench.
You ran around in circles trying to target distant enemies instead of dealing with the direwolves that were chasing you, and never once used your ultimates.
Then you died trying to walk through lava.
I don't think pet targeting was your problem, mate.
Next time, try slotting a group CC skill like restraining prison or time stop. You'll be able to lock down any pets that chase after you.
Also, I don't know how it is on playstation, but on xbox we can lock on to an enemy by pressing down on the right thumbstick. It's great for singling out a specific target in a group of enemies.5 -
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Um... I was FEARED into the lava and had NO STAMINA. Use your eyes. I know how to *** play my class. I regularly had 20+ kills and 0-3 deaths on my sorc pre nerfmire.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭@Aurielle Your video certainly does speak for itself.
You went into a BG with no CC skills other than clench.
You ran around in circles trying to target distant enemies instead of dealing with the direwolves that were chasing you, and never once used your ultimates.
Then you died trying to walk through lava.
I don't think pet targeting was your problem, mate.
Next time, try slotting a group CC skill like restraining prison or time stop. You'll be able to lock down any pets that chase after you.
Also, I don't know how it is on playstation, but on xbox we can lock on to an enemy by pressing down on the right thumbstick. It's great for singling out a specific target in a group of enemies.
I have no room on my bars for any CC besides clench.
If I “tried to deal with” all the *** dire wolves in that match, I’d have spent all my time fighting dire wolves while the WWs picked everyone off. You deal with pets most efficiently by killing the player with the pets, which, of course, is difficult to do when players are stacking pets and hiding behind them.
As for not using my ultimates, I did. Multiple times. My healing ultimate. You know, because sorcs have very little self-heals? And now have a garbage shield? Also, you’ll see me frantically trying to spam said healing ultimate when I got targeted with lethal arrow spam. It didn’t go off, of course, because I was already dead due to the snipe lag bug.
I was not trying to walk through lava. Watch my character. Use your eyes. I was FEARED into lava.
Pet targeting was 100% my problem, @Mr_WolfeEdited by Aurielle on November 7, 2018 10:46AM3 -
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Mr_Wolfe✭✭✭Still dying laughing here because you guys thought I deliberately walked into lava...
That's what it looked like. Going over the video again, I can see that it was a fear that put you in the lava and you did actually use your resto ult a few times. I'm on my phone so between the small screen and the lack of sound I must have missed it originally.
Doesn't change the fact that the pets aren't what killed you.
The first time it was getting feared into lava. Second time was snipe spam. Third time was getting focused by two werewolves who bursted you down with howls.
But if you're really worried about those pets, play to your class' strengths and slot a group CC and a bunch of aoe damage skills. That would have served you a lot better in that fight.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Still dying laughing here because you guys thought I deliberately walked into lava...
That's what it looked like. Going over the video again, I can see that it was a fear that put you in the lava and you did actually use your resto ult a few times. I'm on my phone so between the small screen and the lack of sound I must have missed it originally.
Doesn't change the fact that the pets aren't what killed you.
The first time it was getting feared into lava. Second time was snipe spam. Third time was getting focused by two werewolves who bursted you down with howls.
But if you're really worried about those pets, play to your class' strengths and slot a group CC and a bunch of aoe damage skills. That would have served you a lot better in that fight.
You are being so short sighted and just looking at killing blows. The WW that feared me into the lava? I was trying to target it several seconds earlier, and couldn’t, because all of the pets. Yeah, I died to Snipe lag desync at one point, but that doesn’t change the fact that there were WAY too many pets around making it near impossible to target the players controlling the pets. Also, I could have posted ten minutes worth of footage to demonstrate how stupid and broken pet targeting is; I figured people would get the point with three minutes’ worth of footage. Silly me.
Magsorcs rely on single target burst for kills. I NEED a ST spammable for efficient proccing of frags, I NEED reach for reliable range CC, I NEED Fury as my main execute, and I NEED a way to boost my max magicka on my front bar to maximize damage in a no-CP environment. Slotting AOE skills would have meant putting a destro staff on my back bar, losing my main defensive ultimate, and having to take off other defensive skills that I NEED in order to survive and have mobility.
My build is not the problem; the fact that premade groups can stack dozens of pets on the screen and use them to easily LOS their enemies is the problem. Players should take targeting priority in PVP.1 -
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✭Still dying laughing here because you guys thought I deliberately walked into lava...
That's what it looked like. Going over the video again, I can see that it was a fear that put you in the lava and you did actually use your resto ult a few times. I'm on my phone so between the small screen and the lack of sound I must have missed it originally.
Doesn't change the fact that the pets aren't what killed you.
The first time it was getting feared into lava. Second time was snipe spam. Third time was getting focused by two werewolves who bursted you down with howls.
But if you're really worried about those pets, play to your class' strengths and slot a group CC and a bunch of aoe damage skills. That would have served you a lot better in that fight.
yea itself these pets wasnt killing but they was really interrupting attacking, targeting other players to kill them which is followed through these wolves
many wolves > cant target enemy player > cant kill enemy player > so here we go and dying because unable to even target enemy to attack him while in same time he have no problem to target and kill us because we dont have our own pets/adds active
this is problem for sure which many people here dont understand as I see becauyse for they enough argument is that as - these adds didnt kill you so they are not any of possible problems, they are clear, you need to l2p - this is what I see while writing most posts here blaming @Aurielle for bad gaming instead even look at how this system work3 -
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✭So you want the pets not to be targetable. Think of what this really means to you. If you can not target the pets then they are invincible and will be free to target you. Then we will hear how pets just have to be gotten rid of completely.
Rather not have a feature of a class be made useless. The shields have already been reduced and the targeting of pets gives a slight balance for the less tanky class.
Not every battle is fought the same way, adaption is key. There is also more than one play style. If people keep insisting on nerfs we will end up with just one style.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭So you want the pets not to be targetable. Think of what this really means to you. If you can not target the pets then they are invincible and will be free to target you. Then we will hear how pets just have to be gotten rid of completely.
Rather not have a feature of a class be made useless. The shields have already been reduced and the targeting of pets gives a slight balance for the less tanky class.
Not every battle is fought the same way, adaption is key. There is also more than one play style. If people keep insisting on nerfs we will end up with just one style.
Please tell me how we “adapt” to having 12+ pets on a screen from one team that not only make it extremely difficult to target the offending team, but the non-pet based team as well. Go on! I’m interested.
AOE ultimate dumping? But wait! It’s a premade group against a pug. Maybe my teammates, gasp, don’t have AOE ultimates. 
Pets do very little damage. The one pet that does a lot of damage (atronach) is very noticeable and the damage it does can be broken with LOS. I would MUCH rather be able to target and take out heavy hitting PLAYERS, rather than the piddly little pets that prevent me from targeting the heavy hitting players. I’m in a player versus PLAYER environment, not player versus pet.4 -
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✭✭So you want the pets not to be targetable. Think of what this really means to you. If you can not target the pets then they are invincible and will be free to target you. Then we will hear how pets just have to be gotten rid of completely.
Rather not have a feature of a class be made useless. The shields have already been reduced and the targeting of pets gives a slight balance for the less tanky class.
Not every battle is fought the same way, adaption is key. There is also more than one play style. If people keep insisting on nerfs we will end up with just one style.
Nobody in their right mind intentionally targets pets in their current state. @Aurielle is right, it is far more efficient to just kill whoever owns the pets, because they generally go down far quicker than the pets do.
Not only that, but most people who run pet builds intentionally (by intentionally, I mean in proper PVP builds) use their pets to exploit how broken targeting is against pets, to some extent. Denying your opponent their ability to target you nullifies any offense they can dish out against you, so if they ignore the pets and go straight for you, they completely skip your intention behind running pets.
Making the pets invincible changes nothing. Players who know what they're doing already go straight for the player, except now they don't have to deal with the broken targeting against pets, fixing the ***. Players who don't know what they're doing, well, they're wasting time burning down the pets, time in which the pet owner can spend killing them, so, again, this changes nothing. If anything, it actually pushes the clueless players towards the more efficient option: going straight for the kill.4 -
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✭But wait! It’s a premade group against a pug.
And therein lies the actual issue. You joined a pug, and got unlucky with that pug. If this problem with pets was a constant issue (like pets blocking npcs/writ turn-in points) then I'd be more sympathetic. However this seems to be a one off rant caused by *** pug luck.1 -
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✭✭But wait! It’s a premade group against a pug.
And therein lies the actual issue. You joined a pug, and got unlucky with that pug. If this problem with pets was a constant issue (like pets blocking npcs/writ turn-in points) then I'd be more sympathetic. However this seems to be a one off rant caused by *** pug luck.
Oh but it is exactly that. In fact, it is far worse in PVE. You tried running dolmens during the Witch's Festival? Ever seen a half dozen plus pet sorcs gather around the chest? Legit have to try interacting with the chest from two to three dozen different angles, because the pets actually make it impossible to use it.1 -
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✭✭@Aurielle You do know that tab targeting is a thing in this game. Cycle until you get the player instead of the pet. Yes it an extra step but it is a work around that the game offers instead neutering another class.
In which case you fight the targeting system to tab-target the player, taking us right back to square one. Believe me, when you're having issues targeting players through a field of pets, tab-targeting wastes so much time, just trying to tab onto the player, let alone target them.4 -
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✭But wait! It’s a premade group against a pug.
And therein lies the actual issue. You joined a pug, and got unlucky with that pug. If this problem with pets was a constant issue (like pets blocking npcs/writ turn-in points) then I'd be more sympathetic. However this seems to be a one off rant caused by *** pug luck.
Oh but it is exactly that. In fact, it is far worse in PVE. You tried running dolmens during the Witch's Festival? Ever seen a half dozen plus pet sorcs gather around the chest? Legit have to try interacting with the chest from two to three dozen different angles, because the pets actually make it impossible to use it.
This is why we need added to the UI a Combat Pet and Assistant dismiss button, plus make those auto dismiss when the player interacts with things such as Chests, Traders, Banker, Craft Stations, Quest Givers, Writ Turn In and such.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrettEdited by Grimm13 on November 7, 2018 2:41PM1 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@Aurielle You do know that tab targeting is a thing in this game. Cycle until you get the player instead of the pet. Yes it an extra step but it is a work around that the game offers instead of neutering another class.
OMG.
Please post footage of you successfully tab targeting your way through multiple pets on console in a deathmatch BG while still surviving.
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Numerikuu✭✭✭✭✭
✭But wait! It’s a premade group against a pug.
And therein lies the actual issue. You joined a pug, and got unlucky with that pug. If this problem with pets was a constant issue (like pets blocking npcs/writ turn-in points) then I'd be more sympathetic. However this seems to be a one off rant caused by *** pug luck.
Oh but it is exactly that. In fact, it is far worse in PVE. You tried running dolmens during the Witch's Festival? Ever seen a half dozen plus pet sorcs gather around the chest? Legit have to try interacting with the chest from two to three dozen different angles, because the pets actually make it impossible to use it.
Yes, though I'm assuming you do Alik'r dolmens, so it's no wonder in that case. I always do Deshaan. Less lag, just as effective, and I make some coin on the side from Mother's Sorrow/Plague Doctor drops. Very rarely had those issues, though when it did happen it's nothing a few seconds of waiting didn't fix.0 -
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✭@Aurielle You do know that tab targeting is a thing in this game. Cycle until you get the player instead of the pet. Yes it an extra step but it is a work around that the game offers instead neutering another class.
In which case you fight the targeting system to tab-target the player, taking us right back to square one. Believe me, when you're having issues targeting players through a field of pets, tab-targeting wastes so much time, just trying to tab onto the player, let alone target them.
Sounds more like an excuse than admitting there is a way to target through the Pets in the game. Admittedly it is not a first choice. I would concede your point if this was a twitch targeting based game, but it is not.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭But wait! It’s a premade group against a pug.
And therein lies the actual issue. You joined a pug, and got unlucky with that pug. If this problem with pets was a constant issue (like pets blocking npcs/writ turn-in points) then I'd be more sympathetic. However this seems to be a one off rant caused by *** pug luck.
No. I pug DM BGs ALL THE TIME, have a pretty high MMR, and usually have a great score. The fact that I was up against a premade in a pug was not the problem; the fact that I frequently COULD NOT TARGET players on the premade team because they were stacking pets was the problem.
Edit: and no, this is not a one-off rant. I posted a thread a little while ago that got closed after encountering a premade group of four sorcs running three pets, atro ultimates, and the Maw of the Infernal monster set. It was closed because I called those players out for being the skill-less exploiters that they were.
Edited by Aurielle on November 7, 2018 2:50PM1 -
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✭✭@Aurielle You do know that tab targeting is a thing in this game. Cycle until you get the player instead of the pet. Yes it an extra step but it is a work around that the game offers instead neutering another class.
In which case you fight the targeting system to tab-target the player, taking us right back to square one. Believe me, when you're having issues targeting players through a field of pets, tab-targeting wastes so much time, just trying to tab onto the player, let alone target them.
Sounds more like an excuse than admitting there is a way to target through the Pets in the game. Admittedly it is not a first choice. I would concede your point if this was a twitch targeting based game, but it is not.
Go into a BG, run against a team with a half dozen pets, and let me know how well tab-targeting serves you. I'll wait.
Furthermore, what is the point of workaround solutions, which still don't work as they inherit the bullshittery of the targeting system, when you could just alleviate the bullshittery in the first place?
As I said, this change basically amounts to nothing except fixing the bullshittery, as players typically don't bother with pets regardless, seeing as players are far more efficient targets. Why nuke the pets, when you can nuke the player and the pets die with them.4 -
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✭But wait! It’s a premade group against a pug.
And therein lies the actual issue. You joined a pug, and got unlucky with that pug. If this problem with pets was a constant issue (like pets blocking npcs/writ turn-in points) then I'd be more sympathetic. However this seems to be a one off rant caused by *** pug luck.
No. I pug DM BGs ALL THE TIME, have a pretty high MMR, and usually have a great score. The fact that I was up against a premade in a pug was not the problem; the fact that I frequently COULD NOT TARGET players on the premade team because they were stacking pets was the problem.
Edit: and no, this is not a one-off rant. I posted a thread a little while ago that got closed after encountering a premade group of four sorcs running three pets, atro ultimates, and the Maw of the Infernal monster set. It was closed because I called those players out for being the skill-less exploiters that they were.
What I am hearing is that someone found a better meta that beat your meta. So you want to nerf their meta becuase it's not your chosen meta.3 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭But wait! It’s a premade group against a pug.
And therein lies the actual issue. You joined a pug, and got unlucky with that pug. If this problem with pets was a constant issue (like pets blocking npcs/writ turn-in points) then I'd be more sympathetic. However this seems to be a one off rant caused by *** pug luck.
No. I pug DM BGs ALL THE TIME, have a pretty high MMR, and usually have a great score. The fact that I was up against a premade in a pug was not the problem; the fact that I frequently COULD NOT TARGET players on the premade team because they were stacking pets was the problem.
Edit: and no, this is not a one-off rant. I posted a thread a little while ago that got closed after encountering a premade group of four sorcs running three pets, atro ultimates, and the Maw of the Infernal monster set. It was closed because I called those players out for being the skill-less exploiters that they were.
What I am hearing is that someone found a better meta that beat your meta. So you want to nerf their meta becuase it's not your chosen meta.
No, what I want is for ZOS to fix a highly unbalanced, extremely exploitable system that is used solely to grief players and easy-mode wins.
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Mr_Wolfe✭✭✭You are being so short sighted and just looking at killing blows.
No, I was being polite and not giving a play by play analysis of how you ran around that fight like a chicken with it's head cut off. You know why I initially assumed you'd walked through the lava on purpose? Because in the first few seconds of the video you ran around a corner instead of engaging the werewolves (one of whom was already in execute range) walked through their direwolf pets who were coming from the other direction, used up all your stam blocking (instead of dodge rolling through them, which would have got you through the group faster, allowed you to avoid the damage completely instead of just reducing it, and cost less stamina than blocking a dozen little piranha bites), and then turned around and waded through the direwolves again to go back the way you came. All without firing off a single attack.
The werewolves didn't sic their pets on you and then use the distraction to break line of sight. You broke line of sight to them instead of attacking, and stumbled through their pets in the process.
Now, I've been the panicked guy flailing around in pvp plenty of times, so I tried to offer some advice. You wanna be rude and condescending? Best of luck pal.The WW that feared me into the lava? I was trying to target it several seconds earlier, and couldn’t, because all of the pets. Yeah, I died to Snipe lag desync at one point, but that doesn’t change the fact that there were WAY too many pets around making it near impossible to target the players controlling the pets. Also, I could have posted ten minutes worth of footage to demonstrate how stupid and broken pet targeting is; I figured people would get the point with three minutes’ worth of footage. Silly me.
If you were having trouble targeting the players, why didn't you try to use the lock on feature? Why did you try to pug a BG with only single target skills? And what made you think a video with no sound or context would convey that you were having trouble hitting your intended targets? How are we supposed to know what you meant to hit? It looked like you were just running around in a panic and occasionally tossing a skill into a group hoping it would accomplish something.
Protip: It won't.Magsorcs rely on single target burst for kills. I NEED a ST spammable for efficient proccing of frags, I NEED reach for reliable range CC, I NEED Fury as my main execute, and I NEED a way to boost my max magicka on my front bar to maximize damage in a no-CP environment. Slotting AOE skills would have meant putting a destro staff on my back bar, losing my main defensive ultimate, and having to take off other defensive skills that I NEED in order to survive and have mobility.
My build is not the problem; the fact that premade groups can stack dozens of pets on the screen and use them to easily LOS their enemies is the problem. Players should take targeting priority in PVP.
Your build was absolutely the problem, along with your lack of skill.
If you want to bring a single-target build into a group fight, you need to know how to lock onto a target and focus them down while avoiding or enduring the attacks of their allies. You weren't able to do that, which is why I suggested going with aoe skills that would let you CC and burn entire groups without the need for precise targeting. This is something magsorcs excel at, and the fact that you think they need single target burst to get kills indicates you don't know your class nearly as well as you think. Honestly you shouldn't try to pug on a single-target build at all, since you can't be sure your teammates will be able to make up for your lack of AoE skills.
TL/DR: Don't blame pets for your incompetence, and don't cop a 'tude when someone tries to offer advice.1 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You are being so short sighted and just looking at killing blows.
No, I was being polite and not giving a play by play analysis of how you ran around that fight like a chicken with it's head cut off. You know why I initially assumed you'd walked through the lava on purpose? Because in the first few seconds of the video you ran around a corner instead of engaging the werewolves (one of whom was already in execute range) walked through their direwolf pets who were coming from the other direction, used up all your stam blocking (instead of dodge rolling through them, which would have got you through the group faster, allowed you to avoid the damage completely instead of just reducing it, and cost less stamina than blocking a dozen little piranha bites), and then turned around and waded through the direwolves again to go back the way you came. All without firing off a single attack.
The werewolves didn't sic their pets on you and then use the distraction to break line of sight. You broke line of sight to them instead of attacking, and stumbled through their pets in the process.
Now, I've been the panicked guy flailing around in pvp plenty of times, so I tried to offer some advice. You wanna be rude and condescending? Best of luck pal.The WW that feared me into the lava? I was trying to target it several seconds earlier, and couldn’t, because all of the pets. Yeah, I died to Snipe lag desync at one point, but that doesn’t change the fact that there were WAY too many pets around making it near impossible to target the players controlling the pets. Also, I could have posted ten minutes worth of footage to demonstrate how stupid and broken pet targeting is; I figured people would get the point with three minutes’ worth of footage. Silly me.
If you were having trouble targeting the players, why didn't you try to use the lock on feature? Why did you try to pug a BG with only single target skills? And what made you think a video with no sound or context would convey that you were having trouble hitting your intended targets? How are we supposed to know what you meant to hit? It looked like you were just running around in a panic and occasionally tossing a skill into a group hoping it would accomplish something.
Protip: It won't.Magsorcs rely on single target burst for kills. I NEED a ST spammable for efficient proccing of frags, I NEED reach for reliable range CC, I NEED Fury as my main execute, and I NEED a way to boost my max magicka on my front bar to maximize damage in a no-CP environment. Slotting AOE skills would have meant putting a destro staff on my back bar, losing my main defensive ultimate, and having to take off other defensive skills that I NEED in order to survive and have mobility.
My build is not the problem; the fact that premade groups can stack dozens of pets on the screen and use them to easily LOS their enemies is the problem. Players should take targeting priority in PVP.
Your build was absolutely the problem, along with your lack of skill.
If you want to bring a single-target build into a group fight, you need to know how to lock onto a target and focus them down while avoiding or enduring the attacks of their allies. You weren't able to do that, which is why I suggested going with aoe skills that would let you CC and burn entire groups without the need for precise targeting. This is something magsorcs excel at, and the fact that you think they need single target burst to get kills indicates you don't know your class nearly as well as you think. Honestly you shouldn't try to pug on a single-target build at all, since you can't be sure your teammates will be able to make up for your lack of AoE skills.
TL/DR: Don't blame pets for your incompetence, and don't cop a 'tude when someone tries to offer advice.
Oh, man...
Please keep telling me what to do and how to play my class. I really have no idea what I’m doing.
Did it ever occur to you that I was a little more focused on, say, demonstrating how difficult it is to target players with a metric eff-tonne of pets on the screen, rather than playing my usual game?
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