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A Nerf Proof Option
ezio45
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Ok, like many others nerfmire has just about exhausted my limits with nerfs. To the point were if I see a nerf in update 21 im going to snap my disc in half.... assuming I dont on the 6th.... If zos is going to keep making balance changes like this I want a nerf proof build option.
So heres my proposal
A new free class, race and Armor line. that can only work with themselves. That are intentionally weaker then the others with the full commitment from zos that these will NEVER be altered once added to the game.
New class, Novice:
1 skill line
- Aoe 10 sec duration, comparable damage to Liquid lighting or caltrops. Mag and stam morph, Magic/Phys dmg
- Spammable Similar damage and cost to strife and crushing shock that also heals the user (Basically strife) Mag and stam morph, magic/ phys dmg
- Dot 10 sec duration, Mag and stam morph, Magic/Phys dmg
- Execute, Mag and stam morph, Magic/Phys dmg
- Major Ward and resolve buff for self
- Major sorcery and brutality buff
- 5k Self burst heal similar to breath of life without ally support Stam and mag morph
- Ultimate 20k burst attack with mag and stam morph costing 175 ulti
- Passive 1: Increase mag and stam by 3%
- Passive 2: Imcrease mag and stam recovery by 8%
New Race: Mix or Diluted Blood, Race who has had their natural skills diluted
passives:
- Average: Allows the crafting and use of average armor but only the use of average armor
- Health 1/3/5%
- mag 1/3/5%
- stam 1/3/5%
Average armor:
Will share 1 material increasing by 2 mats to make every 2 lvls up to 160
will give base spell and phys resist of 12k
passives:
1: Max mag and stam 9% with 7 pc of the average set equipped
2: Mag stam recovery 9%% with 7 pc of the average set equipped
3: 4884 spell and weapon pen with 7 pc of the average set equipped
4: 300 spell and weapon damage with 7 pc of the average set equipped
Average set: armor craftable at clothing, jewelry at jewelry, weapons at the appropriate station
2: 500 mag and stam
3: 500 mag and stam
4: 500 mag and stam
5: 300 spell and weap crit
6: 300 spell and weap crit
7: 300 spell and weap dmg
8: 300 spell and weap dmg
9: 300 spell and weap dmg
10: mag stam recov
11: mag stam recov
12: 1000 mag and stam
So heres my proposal
A new free class, race and Armor line. that can only work with themselves. That are intentionally weaker then the others with the full commitment from zos that these will NEVER be altered once added to the game.
New class, Novice:
1 skill line
- Aoe 10 sec duration, comparable damage to Liquid lighting or caltrops. Mag and stam morph, Magic/Phys dmg
- Spammable Similar damage and cost to strife and crushing shock that also heals the user (Basically strife) Mag and stam morph, magic/ phys dmg
- Dot 10 sec duration, Mag and stam morph, Magic/Phys dmg
- Execute, Mag and stam morph, Magic/Phys dmg
- Major Ward and resolve buff for self
- Major sorcery and brutality buff
- 5k Self burst heal similar to breath of life without ally support Stam and mag morph
- Ultimate 20k burst attack with mag and stam morph costing 175 ulti
- Passive 1: Increase mag and stam by 3%
- Passive 2: Imcrease mag and stam recovery by 8%
New Race: Mix or Diluted Blood, Race who has had their natural skills diluted
passives:
- Average: Allows the crafting and use of average armor but only the use of average armor
- Health 1/3/5%
- mag 1/3/5%
- stam 1/3/5%
Average armor:
Will share 1 material increasing by 2 mats to make every 2 lvls up to 160
will give base spell and phys resist of 12k
passives:
1: Max mag and stam 9% with 7 pc of the average set equipped
2: Mag stam recovery 9%% with 7 pc of the average set equipped
3: 4884 spell and weapon pen with 7 pc of the average set equipped
4: 300 spell and weapon damage with 7 pc of the average set equipped
Average set: armor craftable at clothing, jewelry at jewelry, weapons at the appropriate station
2: 500 mag and stam
3: 500 mag and stam
4: 500 mag and stam
5: 300 spell and weap crit
6: 300 spell and weap crit
7: 300 spell and weap dmg
8: 300 spell and weap dmg
9: 300 spell and weap dmg
10: mag stam recov
11: mag stam recov
12: 1000 mag and stam
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Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I can't even remember what people were *** and moaning about regarding Update 20.
It's apparently, like, so last month.signing off0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I did not get past the first sentence of the "proposal" because it just is not going to happen.
In any decent MMORPG there is a constant balancing. It just is not as harsh as what we have here in ESO because Zos seems fairly challenged in trying to understand they game and how it works.
Hence why Zos has added the Class Reps to their already known groups they receive feedback from in hopes they might start getting things right. Until it is understood the management style is the core issue things will not change.
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templesus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭All seriousness, this would be the most balanced thing they ever put in this game.1 -
DRTE✭✭✭✭Play Dk you'll be right "as long as you're not in AU/NZ and experiencing lag spikes of 14000ms." Stam and or mag atm are all good or pet sorc also works well tbh depending on build ofc. or check out speed_kills on twitch with his no shield msorc thats pretty gg. big middle finger to nurfs but the way these games go no one is ever gonna be happy.
The way i see it stop calling for nurfs ask for fixes to your class its the only way s*** is gonna get sorted.Edited by DRTE on November 2, 2018 7:39AMDRAGON SPAWN
Tyrion septim. Stam DK
Agneyastra. Mag DK
Evil Buu. Mag Sorc
Super Evil Buu. Stam Sorc
Carmala Jabspammer. Magplar
Get some help. Stamplar
Plebby Longstockings. Stamblade
Nightbot. Magblade
Unslaad Krosis. Magden
Dirty lich. Magcro0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The best way to be "nerf-proof" is to play a slightly-off-meta build thats nearly as good but not quite that you enjoy playing.
ZOS likes to constantly change the meta, so I find that not needing to chase the meta while being content to do nearly as good has done wonders for me enjoying the game. Outside of big gameplay changes like Morrowind or Murkmire, I dont have to change much.0 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ok, like many others nerfmire has just about exhausted my limits with nerfs. To the point were if I see a nerf in update 21 im going to snap my disc in half.... assuming I dont on the 6th.... If zos is going to keep making balance changes like this I want a nerf proof build option.
So heres my proposal
A new free class, race and Armor line. that can only work with themselves. That are intentionally weaker then the others with the full commitment from zos that these will NEVER be altered once added to the game.
New class, Novice:
1 skill line
- Aoe 10 sec duration, comparable damage to Liquid lighting or caltrops. Mag and stam morph, Magic/Phys dmg
- Spammable Similar damage and cost to strife and crushing shock that also heals the user (Basically strife) Mag and stam morph, magic/ phys dmg
- Dot 10 sec duration, Mag and stam morph, Magic/Phys dmg
- Execute, Mag and stam morph, Magic/Phys dmg
- Major Ward and resolve buff for self
- Major sorcery and brutality buff
- 5k Self burst heal similar to breath of life without ally support Stam and mag morph
- Ultimate 20k burst attack with mag and stam morph costing 175 ulti
- Passive 1: Increase mag and stam by 3%
- Passive 2: Imcrease mag and stam recovery by 8%
New Race: Mix or Diluted Blood, Race who has had their natural skills diluted
passives:
- Average: Allows the crafting and use of average armor but only the use of average armor
- Health 1/3/5%
- mag 1/3/5%
- stam 1/3/5%
Average armor:
Will share 1 material increasing by 2 mats to make every 2 lvls up to 160
will give base spell and phys resist of 12k
passives:
1: Max mag and stam 9% with 7 pc of the average set equipped
2: Mag stam recovery 9%% with 7 pc of the average set equipped
3: 4884 spell and weapon pen with 7 pc of the average set equipped
4: 300 spell and weapon damage with 7 pc of the average set equipped
Average set: armor craftable at clothing, jewelry at jewelry, weapons at the appropriate station
2: 500 mag and stam
3: 500 mag and stam
4: 500 mag and stam
5: 300 spell and weap crit
6: 300 spell and weap crit
7: 300 spell and weap dmg
8: 300 spell and weap dmg
9: 300 spell and weap dmg
10: mag stam recov
11: mag stam recov
12: 1000 mag and stam
Please stop callign NurfMire its only Magicka got worst nerf!
so better call #MagickaNerfMire0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Ok, like many others nerfmire has just about exhausted my limits with nerfs. To the point were if I see a nerf in update 21 im going to snap my disc in half.... assuming I dont on the 6th.... If zos is going to keep making balance changes like this I want a nerf proof build option.
So heres my proposal
A new free class, race and Armor line. that can only work with themselves. That are intentionally weaker then the others with the full commitment from zos that these will NEVER be altered once added to the game.
New class, Novice:
1 skill line
- Aoe 10 sec duration, comparable damage to Liquid lighting or caltrops. Mag and stam morph, Magic/Phys dmg
- Spammable Similar damage and cost to strife and crushing shock that also heals the user (Basically strife) Mag and stam morph, magic/ phys dmg
- Dot 10 sec duration, Mag and stam morph, Magic/Phys dmg
- Execute, Mag and stam morph, Magic/Phys dmg
- Major Ward and resolve buff for self
- Major sorcery and brutality buff
- 5k Self burst heal similar to breath of life without ally support Stam and mag morph
- Ultimate 20k burst attack with mag and stam morph costing 175 ulti
- Passive 1: Increase mag and stam by 3%
- Passive 2: Imcrease mag and stam recovery by 8%
New Race: Mix or Diluted Blood, Race who has had their natural skills diluted
passives:
- Average: Allows the crafting and use of average armor but only the use of average armor
- Health 1/3/5%
- mag 1/3/5%
- stam 1/3/5%
Average armor:
Will share 1 material increasing by 2 mats to make every 2 lvls up to 160
will give base spell and phys resist of 12k
passives:
1: Max mag and stam 9% with 7 pc of the average set equipped
2: Mag stam recovery 9%% with 7 pc of the average set equipped
3: 4884 spell and weapon pen with 7 pc of the average set equipped
4: 300 spell and weapon damage with 7 pc of the average set equipped
Average set: armor craftable at clothing, jewelry at jewelry, weapons at the appropriate station
2: 500 mag and stam
3: 500 mag and stam
4: 500 mag and stam
5: 300 spell and weap crit
6: 300 spell and weap crit
7: 300 spell and weap dmg
8: 300 spell and weap dmg
9: 300 spell and weap dmg
10: mag stam recov
11: mag stam recov
12: 1000 mag and stam
Please stop callign NurfMire its only Magicka got worst nerf!
so better call #MagickaNerfMire
I suspect stam speed builds in PVP might disagree that only magicka got the worst nerfs. #Nerfmire it is.1 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Ok, like many others nerfmire has just about exhausted my limits with nerfs. To the point were if I see a nerf in update 21 im going to snap my disc in half.... assuming I dont on the 6th.... If zos is going to keep making balance changes like this I want a nerf proof build option.
So heres my proposal
A new free class, race and Armor line. that can only work with themselves. That are intentionally weaker then the others with the full commitment from zos that these will NEVER be altered once added to the game.
New class, Novice:
1 skill line
- Aoe 10 sec duration, comparable damage to Liquid lighting or caltrops. Mag and stam morph, Magic/Phys dmg
- Spammable Similar damage and cost to strife and crushing shock that also heals the user (Basically strife) Mag and stam morph, magic/ phys dmg
- Dot 10 sec duration, Mag and stam morph, Magic/Phys dmg
- Execute, Mag and stam morph, Magic/Phys dmg
- Major Ward and resolve buff for self
- Major sorcery and brutality buff
- 5k Self burst heal similar to breath of life without ally support Stam and mag morph
- Ultimate 20k burst attack with mag and stam morph costing 175 ulti
- Passive 1: Increase mag and stam by 3%
- Passive 2: Imcrease mag and stam recovery by 8%
New Race: Mix or Diluted Blood, Race who has had their natural skills diluted
passives:
- Average: Allows the crafting and use of average armor but only the use of average armor
- Health 1/3/5%
- mag 1/3/5%
- stam 1/3/5%
Average armor:
Will share 1 material increasing by 2 mats to make every 2 lvls up to 160
will give base spell and phys resist of 12k
passives:
1: Max mag and stam 9% with 7 pc of the average set equipped
2: Mag stam recovery 9%% with 7 pc of the average set equipped
3: 4884 spell and weapon pen with 7 pc of the average set equipped
4: 300 spell and weapon damage with 7 pc of the average set equipped
Average set: armor craftable at clothing, jewelry at jewelry, weapons at the appropriate station
2: 500 mag and stam
3: 500 mag and stam
4: 500 mag and stam
5: 300 spell and weap crit
6: 300 spell and weap crit
7: 300 spell and weap dmg
8: 300 spell and weap dmg
9: 300 spell and weap dmg
10: mag stam recov
11: mag stam recov
12: 1000 mag and stam
Please stop callign NurfMire its only Magicka got worst nerf!
so better call #MagickaNerfMire
I suspect stam speed builds in PVP might disagree that only magicka got the worst nerfs. #Nerfmire it is.
dont forget passive dodge builds0 -
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✭Better option: when asking for a nerf, u need to prove that u have done atleast 100 hours gametime, using the thing u want to nerf.1
