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Cropsford impossible to take solo

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The formerly unguarded flag has now 6 guards on it...Negate, stun, negate, stun....by the time I am at the third flag, the first one already flips back. Why was this change made? Vlast and Bruma remained the same?


  • JamilaRaj
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    What?! Content impossible to solo? Firor should call an emergency meeting and push hotfix ASAP! Or else at this rate guards will grow even more insolent and start killing players outright!!!

    EDIT: Old Cash Grab is still around, I presume? I have been away for some time, so in case he is not around anymore, semebody else should call the meeting.
    !!!
    Edited by JamilaRaj on October 28, 2018 11:42PM
  • SirAndy
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    It's not impossible, just harder than before. You need to time your run between the flags correctly and obviously have some luck and not be jumped by other players, but it is still doable.

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  • Gilvoth
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    you need a pve build for it to happen.
    as soon as im within 2 seconds of it flipping a guard spawns and interrupts it from the flip, but if i change to a pve build it gives me just a few more seconds and it works.
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  • Talcyndl
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    Same issue with Vlas, although that one is probably more doable since it only has 2 sets of flag guards.
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  • fullheartcontainer
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    You can take it solo; it just takes some effort. I figured out a way in PTS. The best way I found is:
    1. Take a full flag
    2. Move to the next flag and turn it white
    3. Take the next full flag
    4. Return to the first flag where the guards should be respawning. Wait for them to fully respawn and kill them all, turn the flag back fully
    5. Run to the white flag and flip it
  • edges_endgame
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    JamilaRaj wrote: »
    What?! Content impossible to solo? Firor should call an emergency meeting and push hotfix ASAP! Or else at this rate guards will grow even more insolent and start killing players outright!!!

    EDIT: Old Cash Grab is still around, I presume? I have been away for some time, so in case he is not around anymore, semebody else should call the meeting.
    !!!

    Irrelevant post.



    On topic: I have tried it on no CP only and I couldn't do it. Guards just respawned too fast. Vlast is no problem for me to take solo.
  • Sarousse
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    You can do it. Just don't try to do all guards at the same time.

    Do them half by half and change flag.
    Edited by Sarousse on October 29, 2018 8:28AM
  • edges_endgame
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    Sarousse wrote: »
    You can do it. Just don't try to do all guards at the same time.

    Do them half by half and change flag.

    I start at the new guarded flag, move to merchant flag, then middle. By the time i flip last flag, first flag flips back.
  • Gilvoth
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    this should be looked at, because is no reason for us to need a pve build in a pvp area.
    best in slot: is the armor, weapon, clothing look, pet, or no pet, jewelry, race, class, skill choices, amount of DPS, and skin color best fit to you and the way you wish to play and makes you feel good and performs what YOU think it should be.

    worst in slot: what you read in zone chat, and forum comment, and forum thread, and you tube video, and live streamer advice, and class rep advice, and guild chat advice, and whisper told you to wear, and use for skill, and dress like, and use for weapon and armor.
  • Reverb
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    It is harder than it used to be, but not impossible. If you can solo a resource you can solo Crops.
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  • Feanor
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    this should be looked at, because is no reason for us to need a pve build in a pvp area.

    I’ll call any ganker in 7 divines “PvE potato” henceforth. ;)
    I rather think that the issue is that flags flip too slowly if you take them solo. I never understood why group size should affect the time to flip a flag.
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  • mojomood
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    JamilaRaj wrote: »
    What?! Content impossible to solo? Firor should call an emergency meeting and push hotfix ASAP! Or else at this rate guards will grow even more insolent and start killing players outright!!!

    EDIT: Old Cash Grab is still around, I presume? I have been away for some time, so in case he is not around anymore, semebody else should call the meeting.
    !!!

    Irrelevant post.



    On topic: I have tried it on no CP only and I couldn't do it. Guards just respawned too fast. Vlast is no problem for me to take solo.

    On No CP, it maybe impossible. No CP guards and siege are still OP compared to CP campaign. I was hoping the increased damage in Murkmire would make them easier, but it didn't. I can flip one on my stamplar but that's only because of the aoe damage in jabs and medium armor speed.

    Here is one tip...it seems guards have very high resistances. Mauls/Maces are noticeably better against them.
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    mojomood wrote: »
    JamilaRaj wrote: »
    What?! Content impossible to solo? Firor should call an emergency meeting and push hotfix ASAP! Or else at this rate guards will grow even more insolent and start killing players outright!!!

    EDIT: Old Cash Grab is still around, I presume? I have been away for some time, so in case he is not around anymore, semebody else should call the meeting.
    !!!

    Irrelevant post.



    On topic: I have tried it on no CP only and I couldn't do it. Guards just respawned too fast. Vlast is no problem for me to take solo.

    On No CP, it maybe impossible. No CP guards and siege are still OP compared to CP campaign. I was hoping the increased damage in Murkmire would make them easier, but it didn't. I can flip one on my stamplar but that's only because of the aoe damage in jabs and medium armor speed.

    Here is one tip...it seems guards have very high resistances. Mauls/Maces are noticeably better against them.

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    mojomood wrote: »
    ... it seems guards have very high resistances ...

    That's what debuffs are for ...
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  • Gilvoth
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    i do hope this gets looked into and changed.
    best in slot: is the armor, weapon, clothing look, pet, or no pet, jewelry, race, class, skill choices, amount of DPS, and skin color best fit to you and the way you wish to play and makes you feel good and performs what YOU think it should be.

    worst in slot: what you read in zone chat, and forum comment, and forum thread, and you tube video, and live streamer advice, and class rep advice, and guild chat advice, and whisper told you to wear, and use for skill, and dress like, and use for weapon and armor.
  • Didgerion
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    The formerly unguarded flag has now 6 guards on it...Negate, stun, negate, stun....by the time I am at the third flag, the first one already flips back. Why was this change made? Vlast and Bruma remained the same?


    Looks like one more player reached the magica dead-end...try taking cropsford with a stamina build...currently the game greatly favors stamina builds in PVP area.

    If you seek stamina/magica balance then that's a discussion for another thread. As not only the cropsford is the problem, try taking a maxed-out resource in a non-CP campaign with your magica build and you will face same problem (guards negate, reflect, stun you and then fully heal). There is clearly a resource-sism in the PVP area.
    Edited by Didgerion on October 29, 2018 6:56PM
  • DirkRavenclaw
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    I dont need a PVE Build, and Im far from one of the Top Players in PVP, Scattershot and they are done for simple
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  • Gilvoth
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    Scattershot and they are done for simple

    im a bow main, i use scattershot and it does not work as what you are insinuating, infact these guards spawn far too fast.
    best in slot: is the armor, weapon, clothing look, pet, or no pet, jewelry, race, class, skill choices, amount of DPS, and skin color best fit to you and the way you wish to play and makes you feel good and performs what YOU think it should be.

    worst in slot: what you read in zone chat, and forum comment, and forum thread, and you tube video, and live streamer advice, and class rep advice, and guild chat advice, and whisper told you to wear, and use for skill, and dress like, and use for weapon and armor.
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    Didgerion wrote: »
    The formerly unguarded flag has now 6 guards on it...Negate, stun, negate, stun....by the time I am at the third flag, the first one already flips back. Why was this change made? Vlast and Bruma remained the same?


    Looks like one more player reached the magica dead-end...try taking cropsford with a stamina build...currently the game greatly favors stamina builds in PVP area.

    If you seek stamina/magica balance then that's a discussion for another thread. As not only the cropsford is the problem, try taking a maxed-out resource in a non-CP campaign with your magica build and you will face same problem (guards negate, reflect, stun you and then fully heal). There is clearly a resource-sism in the PVP area.

    Nah, I am fine taking any ressource or outpost solo on my magplar. It is just crops with guards respawning too fast or. Flags flipping too slow. (No CP)
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    Didgerion wrote: »
    The formerly unguarded flag has now 6 guards on it...Negate, stun, negate, stun....by the time I am at the third flag, the first one already flips back. Why was this change made? Vlast and Bruma remained the same?


    Looks like one more player reached the magica dead-end...try taking cropsford with a stamina build...currently the game greatly favors stamina builds in PVP area.

    If you seek stamina/magica balance then that's a discussion for another thread. As not only the cropsford is the problem, try taking a maxed-out resource in a non-CP campaign with your magica build and you will face same problem (guards negate, reflect, stun you and then fully heal). There is clearly a resource-sism in the PVP area.

    Nah, I am fine taking any ressource or outpost solo on my magplar. It is just crops with guards respawning too fast or. Flags flipping too slow. (No CP)

    same here.
    those flaggs timer should be shorter, or maybe the timer of guard spawn needs lowered.
    best in slot: is the armor, weapon, clothing look, pet, or no pet, jewelry, race, class, skill choices, amount of DPS, and skin color best fit to you and the way you wish to play and makes you feel good and performs what YOU think it should be.

    worst in slot: what you read in zone chat, and forum comment, and forum thread, and you tube video, and live streamer advice, and class rep advice, and guild chat advice, and whisper told you to wear, and use for skill, and dress like, and use for weapon and armor.
  • Minalan
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    Didgerion wrote: »
    The formerly unguarded flag has now 6 guards on it...Negate, stun, negate, stun....by the time I am at the third flag, the first one already flips back. Why was this change made? Vlast and Bruma remained the same?


    Looks like one more player reached the magica dead-end...try taking cropsford with a stamina build...currently the game greatly favors stamina builds in PVP area.

    If you seek stamina/magica balance then that's a discussion for another thread. As not only the cropsford is the problem, try taking a maxed-out resource in a non-CP campaign with your magica build and you will face same problem (guards negate, reflect, stun you and then fully heal). There is clearly a resource-sism in the PVP area.

    Nah, I am fine taking any ressource or outpost solo on my magplar. It is just crops with guards respawning too fast or. Flags flipping too slow. (No CP)

    same here.
    those flaggs timer should be shorter, or maybe the timer of guard spawn needs lowered.

    Did you hear that ZOS? A nightblade is unable to solo a piece of content in a PVP zone.

    Obviously, I expect this to be addressed in next week's patch.

    PS: Nerf Sorc again too, the class is even stronger now against a few really terrible builds...
  • Feanor
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    Scattershot and they are done for simple

    im a bow main, i use scattershot and it does not work as what you are insinuating, infact these guards spawn far too fast.

    Except that he means the siege weapon and not your awesome bow line skill.
    Main characters:
    Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 41 - Stormproof (PC EU)
    Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)

    Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial Necromancer (lvl 8)
    Fearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)
    Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)
    Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDK
    Valirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBlade
    Turuna - AD Altmer magBlade
    Kheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDK
    Kibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - Stormproof
    Yavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWarden
    Azog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWarden
    Vidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDK
    Marquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - Stormproof
    Rawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWarden
    Tu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar

    All chars 50 @ CP 1000+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on Bahlokdaan PC EU.
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