@John_Falstaff not really it just doesn't proc both enchants off the same skill you apply 2 skills and it still procs just the same as it did.

They just have to make them work one after another. The second enchant can only proc after the cooldown of the first and the first only after the cooldown of the second

enchant1->cooldown1->enchant2->cooldown2->enchant1...

not:

enchant1->cooldown1->...
enchant2->cooldown2->...

Synapsis123 wrote: »

Enchantments shouldn't proc off single target dots plain and simple.

Agreed. That's the big problematic imbalance introduced. There was absolutely nothing wrong with both old glyph proc rulesets (pre-summerset and post summerset), noone ever complained because they were actually rangin between 1-2k PvP DPS output, avoidable and not sticking on the target like a chain detonation time bomb.

The most problematic DW setups will now do 4k PvP DPS sticking to a target instead of 8k PvP DPS before "fix" - thats still more than pretty much everyone is able to maintain with ALL THEIR SKILLS COMBINED in PVP. A consistent single target PvP build that does 4k DPS is basically non-existent. For a total cost of 1200 stamina every few seconds, for applying an axebleed and rending you get more PvP DPS than even the best & experienced PvPers can do... it's still disgustingly imbalanced, just not as absurd as before.

I think another problem is that you can use infused and torugs to increase enchants of oblivion damage. The damage of oblivion enchants should not be affected by any increasing effects as is is not affected by any decreasing.

A damage type that ignores everything is extreme strong and being able to proc every 1.8 sec with 2.1k damage.

The only logical way to restore balance is to make 1 handed weapons have 50% enchant potency.

What instead will happen:

1) Weapon glyphes become non crittable because they‘re now presumed as proc damage. Decrease Health will still overperform in PvP.
2) Torugs Pact will be nerfed.
3) Infused will be nerfed.

Would this also nerf one hand and shield enchants? That would have a big effect on what tanks run.

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Buzo wrote: »

The only logical way to restore balance is to make 1 handed weapons have 50% enchant potency.

What instead will happen:

1) Weapon glyphes become non crittable because they‘re now presumed as proc damage. Decrease Health will still overperform in PvP.
2) Torugs Pact will be nerfed.
3) Infused will be nerfed.

Nah, combining their current glyph proc ruleset with pre-summerset glyph proc logic (only active bar enchant is proccing no matter on which bar the dot is sitting on) would be the most simle solution and guarantee a hardcap on potenital dmg ouput without causing too much harm elsewhere.

So backbar poisons/enchants can be procced by dedicateing frontbar dots?

Buzo wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Buzo wrote: »

The only logical way to restore balance is to make 1 handed weapons have 50% enchant potency.

What instead will happen:

1) Weapon glyphes become non crittable because they‘re now presumed as proc damage. Decrease Health will still overperform in PvP.
2) Torugs Pact will be nerfed.
3) Infused will be nerfed.

Nah, combining their current glyph proc ruleset with pre-summerset glyph proc logic (only active bar enchant is proccing no matter on which bar the dot is sitting on) would be the most simle solution and guarantee a hardcap on potenital dmg ouput without causing too much harm elsewhere.

So backbar poisons/enchants can be procced by dedicateing frontbar dots?

Yes, by weapon swapping - basically only active bar glyphs will ever proc, not matter where your damage is coming from. It was like that pre-summerset but without the single target dot triggering they introduced with murkmire.