Absolutely does not apply to the 80% of Bind-on-Pickup sets that are worthwhile in this game.Personally I hoard a lot but it's not really that big of issue after everything. You should buy some things when you need them not just hoard them.
Oh, and the limitless crafting bag.
A fully equipped character takes at at least 12 items, so your 600 works out to 50 sets about 6 per character.Androconium wrote: »With ESO+ you have the potential to have eight chars with 200 slots and a bank with 480*.
The bank doesn't store your crafting items, so you don't have to worry about those.
That gives 2080 slots for hoarding without spending any more money on storage.
Or 1040 slots if you don't subscribe, Minus around 400 slots for crafting, that still leave over 600 slots.
That's still 60 full sets of wearables. At least.
From a time management perspective, you'd possibly be better off selling everything you hoard now and just buy what you need, when you need it.
(* please correct the numbers, if I got them wrong - I haven't played in a while)
VaranisArano wrote: »Should they?
Sure, I'd use it.
Will they?
No. Its deliberately capped to create inventory management issues that encourage people to sub for ESO+ for the Craft Bag and extra bank space.
But some people struggle with space even with that
Merlin13KAGL wrote: »A fully equipped character takes at at least 12 items, so your 600 works out to 50 sets about 6 per character.Androconium wrote: »With ESO+ you have the potential to have eight chars with 200 slots and a bank with 480*.
The bank doesn't store your crafting items, so you don't have to worry about those.
That gives 2080 slots for hoarding without spending any more money on storage.
Or 1040 slots if you don't subscribe, Minus around 400 slots for crafting, that still leave over 600 slots.
That's still 60 full sets of wearables. At least.
From a time management perspective, you'd possibly be better off selling everything you hoard now and just buy what you need, when you need it.
(* please correct the numbers, if I got them wrong - I haven't played in a while)
If you multi-role, if you PvE and PvP, then four of those 6 are immediately gone. If you have other set combinations, often required for various roles to adjust for your group or the content you intend to do, then that safely eliminates the remaining two. Want to try a new build? You now get to determine which currently viable combination you get to decon to allow that to happen.
People need to stop hoarding (if they still need more space). But it also depends on whether you have ESO+ or not.
With ESO+ we have 480 bank slots, 200 inventory slots, and a further 360 slots in storage chests.
And as many alts as you care to roll, up to the limit, with all their inventory spaces.
I would say that's quite a few, no?
Oh, and the limitless crafting bag.
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People need to stop hoarding (if they still need more space). But it also depends on whether you have ESO+ or not.
With ESO+ we have 480 bank slots, 200 inventory slots, and a further 360 slots in storage chests.
And as many alts as you care to roll, up to the limit, with all their inventory spaces.
I would say that's quite a few, no?
Oh, and the limitless crafting bag.
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Jayman1000 wrote: »Jayman1000 wrote: »I do not feel that it is necessary. With ESO plus you get double space. More than enough. Additionally you also get a plethora of storage space in houses.... And if you do not want to pay for sub to get more bag space and complain about not having enough space you are bit of cheapskate.
aside from the whole "subscription optional" IS a legitimate way to play and there is no need to insult people who chose to play that way. there are storage issues for many of us EVEN with all the possible space unlocked.
Saying you are a bit of cheapskate if you do not want to pay to get more inventory for you shipload of stuff you want to hoard (clearly this is someone playing the game a lot) is hardly an insult.
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VaranisArano wrote: »Should they?
Sure, I'd use it.
Will they?
No. Its deliberately capped to create inventory management issues that encourage people to sub for ESO+ for the Craft Bag and extra bank space.
Take off your tin foil hat. Craftbag were not always there. The bank cap didn't force you into subbing because even subbed you still had the very same limit as before.
Craftbag came to be -exactly- to solve the issues people already had since the very first day, two years prior to craftbag being a thing. It only came for those with subs, but that's another convo. They didn't create an issue twonoblt solve it with cash two years later. They HAD an issue and figured out how to solve it 2 years later, and catered to loyal paying costumers. (Not me, exchange rate makes it prohibitive).
Besides... You can store so many things in your house now, so it's fine. Just gotta invest in crafting, which is something everyone should do anyways
The bank cap didn't force you into subbing
Merlin13KAGL wrote: »A fully equipped character takes at at least 12 items, so your 600 works out to 50 sets about 6 per character.Androconium wrote: »With ESO+ you have the potential to have eight chars with 200 slots and a bank with 480*.
The bank doesn't store your crafting items, so you don't have to worry about those.
That gives 2080 slots for hoarding without spending any more money on storage.
Or 1040 slots if you don't subscribe, Minus around 400 slots for crafting, that still leave over 600 slots.
That's still 60 full sets of wearables. At least.
From a time management perspective, you'd possibly be better off selling everything you hoard now and just buy what you need, when you need it.
(* please correct the numbers, if I got them wrong - I haven't played in a while)
If you multi-role, if you PvE and PvP, then four of those 6 are immediately gone. If you have other set combinations, often required for various roles to adjust for your group or the content you intend to do, then that safely eliminates the remaining two. Want to try a new build? You now get to determine which currently viable combination you get to decon to allow that to happen.
All of this doesn't factor in different pieces with different enchants, it doesn't factor in transmute geodes and coffers. I'm fairly certain no one wants to purge 100 stones simply to make space for more items, because there's a time sync involved in getting those too.
That leaves you minimal space for potions, food, housing items that are not placed, among other things. Heaven forbid you find a well traited item from set A on a character that is only needing items from set G, because then you get to go through the whole rearrangement process in order to shuffle the sets where they need to go.
If you only ever do one thing in one role per character, then it's probably not an issue. If you have alts that are strictly mules, it's probably not an issue.
If you actually play each character you have and you do more than a single type of content, the large amount of space quickly becomes a lot smaller. If you don't do more than one thing per character, then it's simply a different limit imposed by the game.
Again, there is value to what some call 'hoarding' because sets change often, and time and gold mats invested will never recover even a fraction of the value involved. If one could resell to other players, it wouldn't be as big of a deal.
If 80% or better of the sets worth having weren't bind on pickup, and thus purchasable like some are recommending, it wouldn't be as big of deal.
Since neither is the case, it's a gamble.
I'll live with borderline zero space far longer than I'll commit to regrinding sets I've already found in perfect trait and golded out because I've already been burned too many times.
Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »Assuming if you will only keep 1 stack of top tier crafting materials, motif materials, trait materials and upgrade materials you will have something about 234 slots needed to keep all of those. That is almost full bank space - 240 slots.
Add + 2 slots as Murkmire DLC introduced 2 new crafting styles - that use another style materials.
So we have something like 236 of 240 bank space available. Currently - if you want to keep crafting materials to do crafting writs on multiple characters without ESO+ crafting bag - it is still possible. But 2 - 3 more DLC and it might change.
Bank space imho simply requires an "update". 240 slots were fine in the past - but as we got more & more content (DLCs & Chapters) - 240 slots will soon be obsolete.
Androconium wrote: »"60" was not one of the numbers that I sought confirmation on.
Ok, I accept your adjustment to 50 sets. This is still based on not having ESO+.
You justify your requirement for more space, then I suggest that you subscribe to ESO+ to resolve your problem.
You're failing to grasp that you and other players like you, are the ones that ZOS would like to have spending more money with them. If you'd rather not spend the money, that's OJK. Just stop whingeing about it.