I'm not entirely sure on this one; increasing bag space is treating the symptom, not the disease. ZOS need to look at why additional inventory space is being added and if it's necessary. Should they increase the maximum space in the few places, or add additional means of storing things? Should there be a different inventory system entirely (individual weight instead of number of items)? Should they re-examine how they monetise storage? Those're some questions that come to mind before I vote. ^^

Should they?

Sure, I'd use it.

Will they?

No. Its deliberately capped to create inventory management issues that encourage people to sub for ESO+ for the Craft Bag and extra bank space.

VaranisArano wrote: »

Should they?

Sure, I'd use it.

Will they?

No. Its deliberately capped to create inventory management issues that encourage people to sub for ESO+ for the Craft Bag and extra bank space.

That is the reason for the finance people inside ZOS, but this issue existed before the crafting bag and before ESO Plus. I think the game devs want to make sure people think about what they keep and make decisions about what is important to them.

For every item they add, they need to cull garbage items.

Start removing the 'need 10 of' items on styles and just give me the whole thing.
Jejota has no use whatsoever other than the odd furniture recipe which could be done by another. Make Ta green and kill Jejota.

Or have the craft bag for these garbage items for every player.

I stopped playing for about 6 months because what started out as a sensible inventory management became a chore as more items got added. When I heard house storage was a thing, I got back into it. Again that is just a bandaid, it won't be long before back to square one.

They need an armory system for Monster Sets, Maelstrom, Master, Asylum, Black Rose. Possibly even PVP gear too. I'd even go as far as to say any item that is Bound as well. If you cannot sell it, you should at least be able to collect it. If that makes inventory space too abundant then have it so we cash in our house storage chests to say, an undaunted armory, where the undaunted guild uses it to store sets for the entire undaunted guild (all your toons). So we lose storage in housing but gain storage in armory. Cash in all chests, you get to collect all sets.

If you add an item multiple traits of the same item, you can essentially swap between the traits.

If they had an armory system, they can add as many sets as they like.

Meh.

If one really wants to save sixty-two different armor sets 'just in case', then they should make a mule or two. There's lots of space if one doesn't go into the realm of super-hoarding.

IMO adding more storage space doesn't actually solve the problem, it just delays it a bit. Otherwise the problem would have been fixed when they adding housing storage, or added double bank space to ESO+ or added the craft bag or any of the other ways they've increased the available space in one way or another.

As I understand it one of the most common things people hoard is set pieces, just in case they become useful later on. So a better solution IMO would be to address why people feel they need to hang onto set pieces - either stop making balance changes as often (I doubt that would be popular) or make it easier to reacquire set pieces you've previously earned.

I voted that it's not my problem because I don't have trouble with storage. According to Inventory Insight I have a total of 1,022 spaces on my account and I'm using 496. I could clear some of that space too because some characters are in the middle of an adventure and are carrying stuff which needs to be dropped off at the bank, sold or deconstructed. (Oh and that's without ESO+ so a lot of what I am storing is crafting materials.)

I suspect that's largely because I decided ages ago to stick to crafted sets. So I don't need to hang onto the equipment because it might one day be worth having. As long as I've got the materials I can make it as and when I need it, and even without ESO+ crafting materials take up less space than trying to hold every variant of every armour piece and weapon in the game.

I'm not opposed to them adding more storage space - I just don't think it will actually solve the problem. It's like taking pain killers because you've got a broken leg - it will stop the pain and make you think it's better for a while, but then you'll keep walking around on the leg and it won't actually heal. Same idea here, give people more storage space and they'll just hang onto even more stuff and end up right back where they started.

ZonasArch wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Should they?

Sure, I'd use it.

Will they?

No. Its deliberately capped to create inventory management issues that encourage people to sub for ESO+ for the Craft Bag and extra bank space.

Take off your tin foil hat. Craftbag were not always there. The bank cap didn't force you into subbing because even subbed you still had the very same limit as before.

Craftbag came to be -exactly- to solve the issues people already had since the very first day, two years prior to craftbag being a thing. It only came for those with subs, but that's another convo. They didn't create an issue twonoblt solve it with cash two years later. They HAD an issue and figured out how to solve it 2 years later, and catered to loyal paying costumers. (Not me, exchange rate makes it prohibitive).

Besides... You can store so many things in your house now, so it's fine. Just gotta invest in crafting, which is something everyone should do anyways

Many, many players only subscribe to ESO+ for the Crafting Bag. I was here when the Crafting Bag came out, and lots of players decided that was totally worth it to subscribe just for that. Almost like ZOS introduced the Crafting Bag and extra bank space to address the needs of players struggling with inventory management - and then locked it behind the ESO+ subscription.

Personally, I don't subscribe. I have enough bank space, housing storage, and a few mules that make my inventory management okay to deal with. Even though I craft and farm mats and store sets.

But for most players, ESO+ is a convenient if costly method to immediately ease their inventory management woes.

None of the above.

More bag / bank / housing space is just treating the symptom, not the root issue of there being too much stuff to manage in a game with poor inventory management systems.

I don't think it would hurt to increase the max bank size although I don't need the space.

One thing ZOS could change is the way they handle crafting styles and improvement regents. Before I had ESO+ I found leveling crafting was manageable from the material perspective as I would only keep a full stack of whatever level material that matched my level and vendor the rest. The problem is with the relative rarity of style materials you need to keep them and every time you turn around there is a new one to save. This is compounded by the need for every craft to take up at least 4 slots for improvement regents. Jewel crafting and things like verdant dust make it worse because now you need two slots. One to hold the dust and the other to hold the completed regent. Add in all of the other things like alternate armor sets and you run out of bank space pretty quickly.

I also found that buying apartments becomes cheaper than bank slots pretty fast so use those to store housing items I have no current need for.

I do not feel that it is necessary. With ESO plus you get double space. More than enough. Additionally you also get a plethora of storage space in houses.... And if you do not want to pay for sub to get more bag space and complain about not having enough space you are bit of cheapskate.

Jayman1000 wrote: »

I do not feel that it is necessary. With ESO plus you get double space. More than enough. Additionally you also get a plethora of storage space in houses.... And if you do not want to pay for sub to get more bag space and complain about not having enough space you are bit of cheapskate.

aside from the whole "subscription optional" IS a legitimate way to play and there is no need to insult people who chose to play that way. there are storage issues for many of us EVEN with all the possible space unlocked.

Linaleah wrote: »

Jayman1000 wrote: »

I do not feel that it is necessary. With ESO plus you get double space. More than enough. Additionally you also get a plethora of storage space in houses.... And if you do not want to pay for sub to get more bag space and complain about not having enough space you are bit of cheapskate.

aside from the whole "subscription optional" IS a legitimate way to play and there is no need to insult people who chose to play that way. there are storage issues for many of us EVEN with all the possible space unlocked.

Saying you are a bit of cheapskate if you do not want to pay to get more inventory for you shipload of stuff you want to hoard (clearly this is someone playing the game a lot) is hardly an insult.

And for the love of Mara stop with all the junk I can't deposit in the bank or vendor. Inventory management is annoying enough without extra trolling.

None of the poll options quite fit for me. Yes, I love the idea of more max space. However, I have yet to have the means to buy up all the bag and bank space currently available. Since I've managed to get comfortable amounts of space even at the lower limits, despite being a hoarder (I have ESO+ to increase my max and get the crafting bag), it's not yet a problem for me. Especially since I am super casual and only have one set of gear, which I wear, and have cleared out my RP pieces now that I can use the Outfit slot to get a look I like and use a Costume to dress more casually. (That, and, well, I'm not RPing in game so why haul around garb for it?).

But while it's not yet a problem for me, and may never be, nothing makes me salivate in an MMO quite so much as more inventory space. So if ZoS can give it to us, I'm all for it.