Do you think ESO has set the bar too high for TES 6?

usmguy1234 · October 2018

No

I say no because of a different reason. I think the bar will be high because tes fans will be expecting a very high performing game with depth and richness that eso has failed to deliver. Eso is like craving a coke and there's only a sip left in the fridge but someone changed it out for Pepsi.

AhPook_Is_Here · October 2018

No

TES 6 will be OK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfkl4Bxl3vY

RazielSR · October 2018

No

The most hilarious and nonsense topic ever written in this forum. And that means a lot.

Knootewoot · October 2018

No

I think Witcher 3 set the bar high for TES 6 and also Kingdomcome deliverance. But that's my opinions as others may say these games suck.

ESO not so much as it is further thumbing down of the TES series if it was a single player game. But it is not so you cannot even compare ESO to TES games. The crafting is better at least then Skyrims as are the dungeons. But the world itself is pretty stale and bland (at least the older zones).

JD2013 · October 2018

No

Superhero1257b14_ESO wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

ESO will need a major overhaul after TES 6 is released.

ESO won't live that long. We're still 2-3 years away from TES6.

People have been saying this since release.

Next year will be the 5th anniversary of the release of Elder Scrolls Online.

So ... Yeah.

Sailor_Palutena · October 2018

Yes

I expect nothing less for VI.

A lot of customization, equipment, and especially size. If it is "just" a zone like Morrowind or Cyrodill or Skyrim, it would suck, as the majority of the current games such as Zelda BotW, Witcher 3, GTA V and Fallout 4 claim to have maps 3 times the size of Skyrim. I would like to see some part of each province to be reachable making ESO players from each faction feel at home and look for familiar places.

Being able to visit Alik'r, Elden Root, Mournhold, the White Gold Tower etc would be awesome. Also, for the beard of Ysmir, a new engine, because gamebryo needs to rest by now.

Also, flying mounts and deep swimming must exist. Two things that we aren't going to see in ESO.

Vizikul · October 2018

Greg11jkalfa wrote: »

I just don't want to be disappointed.

You should turn into a pessimist like me. Always expect the worst-case-scenario and you won't ever get disappointed. You will either be right (then you can brag about it), or you won't, in which case you will be pleasingly surprised.

HappyLittleTree · October 2018

Yes

I think people don't understand what you're saying by this post. People think that mods and better framerate(of a singleplayer game... Whohoo so hard to achieve) are superior. I do think that the story and immersion are more important and TESO provides alot to that. Heck the first time I heard about eso and saw you can craft in different styles I knew that it was better than skyrim. I personally think skyrim is okay. But it lacks so much a real TES should have and one point is that you have a pointer which guides you where you should go. I remember playing morrowind were you had to follow clues to get to specific points like follow road xy go right at the giant mushroom when you see the xy tomb you went to far... I want something like that. I don't want a game to hold my hand

Cously · October 2018

No

ESO made me realize what I didn't like in the ES games: access to one province. Yes, Daggerfall, but it's so dated now. I love that ESO allows me to experience all of Tamriel at once. Plenty of mods to expand Tamriel in other games but meh, it's not the official stuff. It seems TES6 will bring only one province yet that will make me feel "trapped". Naturally I understand is very hard for a company to deliver both a complete and detailed map like in Skyrim of all provinces, the game would be a giant. In ESO we get smaller maps but also a taste of everything. I'll play both, that's for sure, but ESO will remain my TOP 1.

Wifeaggro13 · October 2018

No

Greg11jkalfa wrote: »

Has The Elder Scrolls Online already put the next major title to shame? And before anyone charges in saying things like: 'You do realize ESO is an MMO don't you', and 'We haven't even seen what TES 6 is going to be like yet', let me make myself clear. I just fear that the amount of customization and variety that The Elder Scrolls Online provides for players, will eclipse the amount in The Elder Scrolls 6, and make it feel lackluster. Skyrim released over 5 and a half years after oblivion, and while it made huge improvements to things like stealth, enchanting, and added crafting, it also failed in a lot of ways, i.e., you could only equip one ring, leg armor was instead attached to the chest piece, there were less armor, weapon, and clothing options, and the list goes on. I just don't want to be disappointed.

quite the opposite ESO is trying so hard to be a single player RPG that it does a medicore job at it. the things Skyrim did different from oblivion was imply dumbing the game down for crappy console hard ware and less development dollars spent . ESO should have focused on being a MMO and doing that correctly now the game is stuck in the middle of doing both things with mediocrity. TES 6 will be fine. i have a feeling Betheseda screwed up fall out 76 with their attempt at trying to change the game into a survival game. they would have been better off making it a MMO instead of this dumb design they picked

Rain_Greyraven · October 2018

No

After seeing what Rockstar did with RDR2...no, hell no.

In fact ESO will be in serious trouble if Bethesda allows any form of co-op, I mean why deal with Toxic tards in not so fun Trials when you can just play TES6 co-op with a friend for the cost of the game?

Taleof2Cities · October 2018

Royaji wrote: »

Apples and oranges. People really like comparing those.

^This.^

Not to mention it’s a Bethesda-designed game led by Todd Howard.

It will be fine.

pdblake · October 2018

No

Today eso performance is so bad I'm playing skyrim.

rfennell_ESO · October 2018

No

I think ESO has raised the bar on Elder Scrolls VI, not too high... just about right.

There is a lot of material from ESO they can use, just like ESO used material from Skyrim (the compass bar etc).

I have no inclination to believe that with the success of Skyrim, Fallout 4 and ESO (and soon to be Fallout 76) that they will knock it out of the park.

Pooping on Skyrim seems to be a thing, but a game that's reported to have sold 30 million copies got something right. Just do the math on Skyrim... 30 million x 59.99 is 1.8 billion dollars. That alone will make Elder Scrolls VI both important and highly budgeted.

Mintaka5 · October 2018

No

Tavore1138 · October 2018

No

No, for many reasons:

1. Finally get to continue the story arc in the 4th age.
2. You actually get to be the focus of the game which means...
3. Your events can actually have a marked and notable enduring impact on the world because they don't have to worry about all the other players and...
4. You will be able to complete quests in multiple different ways instead of following the rails with possibly a minor choice at the end.
5. You are unlikely to get people making annoying and childish remarks while you are playing (if you do put the kids,partner or pets out of the room).
6. You will be able to get powerful and unique gear because balance doesn't matter in the same way...
7. Likewise OP skills are possible as you ramp up in power.
8. If you find content annoying or glitchy you will be able to '~' your way around it which can be nice.
9. PC power has moved on several years so the graphics can potentially be even better.
10. Much less forum moaning about nerfs.
11. I'm out of more but I bet others can add a few.

In short there are things that can be done in an offline gam,e that an MMO cannot do however good.

Aesthier · October 2018

No

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Aesthier wrote: »

Greg11jkalfa wrote: »

I'm speaking on behalf of the core game. Obviously mods give the other games an advantage. But that's not a fair comparison since ESO, as you said, can't provide them.

If you want to compare "base games" then:

Base Skyrim would have been the buggy unmodded unpatched piece of junk it was and the base game of ESO would have been the original buggy unpatched piece of crap it was.

Those are the base games.

If you want to compare "modded versions" then:

The modded versions for Skyrim would include all of its possible mods and the modded version of ESO would include all of the developer modifications (i.e. patches) that have happened since the base game.

Honestly, those are the only fair ways I can see comparing them but...

Mods aren't the work of the developer. They're fan projects. You can't use them to describe a game as being good or bad without being disingenuous.

I am not being disingenuous.

Mods are modifications.

In MMO's Developers make Modifications to increase the lifespan of the game. In Skyrim Players did it. Neither of these games was worth a hoot without further modification from the vanilla version.

I honestly believe that what this really comes down to for most people is do you enjoy playing with others or do you prefer playing alone for whatever the various reasons.

Again I believe the premise of comparing a single player game to a multiplayer game pretty disingenuous myself.

And lastly, ESO has absolutely nothing to do with setting the bar for me in a single player game.

coop500 · October 2018

No

Uh no, if anything TES6 will put ESO to shame

DanteYoda · October 2018

No

As a base game i still prefer Skyrim over .. This.

I don't get 500 ping times in skyrim either..

MartiniDaniels · October 2018

No

Greg11jkalfa wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

ESO will need a major overhaul after TES 6 is released.

I feel this is the confidence a lot of people saying no have. Don't get me wrong, I fully believe in Todd, but I'm also being cautious after how many things ESO did better than Skyrim.

What particular things in ESO are better then in Skyrim, btw? Combat mechanics step down, lore step down, level design step down..

DeadlyRecluse · October 2018

No

I don't really think this poll makes much sense.

An MMO doesn't determine my expectations for a single player RPG.

Elsonso · October 2018

No

I have to answer "NO" because it is not higher than BGS can achieve. Together, ESO, Fallout 4, and Fallout 76 have raised the bar significantly higher than it was with Skyrim.

MLGProPlayer · October 2018

No

JD2013 wrote: »

Superhero1257b14_ESO wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

ESO will need a major overhaul after TES 6 is released.

ESO won't live that long. We're still 2-3 years away from TES6.

People have been saying this since release.

Next year will be the 5th anniversary of the release of Elder Scrolls Online.

So ... Yeah.

The next gen consoles will be out in 1-2 years. A lot of people won't want to play a "last gen" game anymore on their brand new consoles. They'll want "next gen" games.

PC gamers are typically more open minded, but the PC community isn't enough to sustain this game long term.

I imagine Bethesda knows this, which is why they've commissioned ZOS to start working on a new MMO.

Tyrobag · October 2018

No

Lol, considering that Skyrim is still better than ESO I'm fairly confident that TES VI is safe. You really shouldn't compare the two anyway, an mmo is a completely different environment from a proper single player game.

MartiniDaniels · October 2018

No

SLE, only a dozen of standard texture mods..

Nebthet78 · October 2018

No

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Witcher 3 put all TES titles to shame (it put all open world RPGs to shame). I hope that is the reason for the long development cycle: they want to release something that can compete with that masterpiece.

I really hope we get a game of that scale and scope with TES VI and not just Morrowind with upgraded graphics (which is what Oblivion and Skyrim were). The technology to create a much bigger, more immersive world is available today. There is no excuse for another cramped map with 30 NPCs.

I have this small hope that they want to give us ALL of Tamriel and the Oblivion realms so that in future games, they can perhaps go to the otherwide of Nirn and give us something completely new and barely known about.

Bouldercleave · October 2018

No

Vizikul wrote: »

Greg11jkalfa wrote: »

I just don't want to be disappointed.

You should turn into a pessimist like me. Always expect the worst-case-scenario and you won't ever get disappointed. You will either be right (then you can brag about it), or you won't, in which case you will be pleasingly surprised.

You and I would be GOOD friends with a viewpoint like that. Bravo!

FakeFox · October 2018

No

Bar too high for most buggy game in the TES series? Probably.
Bar too high for highest amount of microtransactions? Probably.

Tholian1 · October 2018

No

Nebthet78 wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Witcher 3 put all TES titles to shame (it put all open world RPGs to shame). I hope that is the reason for the long development cycle: they want to release something that can compete with that masterpiece.

I really hope we get a game of that scale and scope with TES VI and not just Morrowind with upgraded graphics (which is what Oblivion and Skyrim were). The technology to create a much bigger, more immersive world is available today. There is no excuse for another cramped map with 30 NPCs.

I have this small hope that they want to give us ALL of Tamriel and the Oblivion realms so that in future games, they can perhaps go to the otherwide of Nirn and give us something completely new and barely known about.

The plans for TES 6 are being described as “big” and “ambitious”. So hopefully we will get all of Tamriel.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/elder-scrolls-6-is-a-long-time-off-might-not-launc/1100-6462813/

Mettaricana · October 2018

No

Skyrim set the bar too low... and eso didn't even touch the bar for es6