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Do you think ESO has set the bar too high for TES 6?
Greg11jkalfa
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Has The Elder Scrolls Online already put the next major title to shame? And before anyone charges in saying things like: 'You do realize ESO is an MMO don't you', and 'We haven't even seen what TES 6 is going to be like yet', let me make myself clear. I just fear that the amount of customization and variety that The Elder Scrolls Online provides for players, will eclipse the amount in The Elder Scrolls 6, and make it feel lackluster. Skyrim released over 5 and a half years after oblivion, and while it made huge improvements to things like stealth, enchanting, and added crafting, it also failed in a lot of ways, i.e., you could only equip one ring, leg armor was instead attached to the chest piece, there were less armor, weapon, and clothing options, and the list goes on. I just don't want to be disappointed.
When the next Elder Scroll is written, you shall be it's scribe.
-Martin Septim
Member Since June 9, 2015
Do you think ESO has set the bar too high for TES 6? 648 votes
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FlyingSwan✭✭✭✭✭NoNo ESO is very hammy compared to any other TES game. It's all about gimmicks like proc sets and colourful pets, I like ESO but it's a very childish game compared to the other TES games.
I fully expect TES 6 to have proper crafting and adherence to lore etc., which has been sacrificed in ESO to make a dumbed down theme park MMO.67 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoThe single player games are an entirely different kind of animal from ESO. Not just because it's an MMO. ESO's a very different take on the setting. I certainly hope BGS takes some cues from ESO. But, I don't think TES6 will be overshadowed by ESO.9 -
Greg11jkalfa✭✭✭YesESO will need a major overhaul after TES 6 is released.
I feel this is the confidence a lot of people saying no have. Don't get me wrong, I fully believe in Todd, but I'm also being cautious after how many things ESO did better than Skyrim.When the next Elder Scroll is written, you shall be it's scribe.-Martin SeptimMember Since June 9, 201511 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoThe experience will differ vastly really. The depth of involvement, decision making, consequences, will all be way more involved in a single player game.
Over powered won't be an issue, heavy armor bow mages that sneak past is fine in a single player game.
How to go about accomplishing tasks will differ. Walk paths for NPCs, traps with physics, NPC reactions will have a higher range of possibilities.
I think both will be enjoyable for different reasons6 -
pauli133✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoIn some areas, yes, ESO has set a high bar. Voice acting, for instance, is (with some exceptions) notably better than in the single player series.
And I really don't think Bethesda has much hope for giving us the viscerally real experience of regular, extended downtime that ZOS has mastered.2 -
Lylith✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Nohopefully not.
but i don't believe in todd at all, so i do have some ambivalence regarding what they'll do with tesvi.
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Tholian1✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoGreg11jkalfa wrote: »
Other than a rerelease with graphics upgrades and a version for VR, Skyrim hasn’t had any more development to the core of the game for years. ESO has had constant development, so it is a bit unfair to even compare the two. What I am confident about, is that TES 6 will be far more advanced than Skyrim was.PS4 Pro NA8 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Apples and oranges. People really like comparing those.
Both are round and a fruit.
One tastes better if you peel it before taking a bite.
One makes a better pie.
I don't know anything at all about TES 6 because I haven't paid any attention at all to it. I'm sure it, like every other game, will have its fans and detractors.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."5 -
Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NoPlay on PC with mods
so ESO has not really met my bar for customization"If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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Marto✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesAbsolutely. ESO currently has probably the best writing team, voice acting cast, and worldbuilders the franchise has ever seen.
Key word: Currently.
The team that worked in vanilla ESO, released in 2014, was unprepared, uninspired, rushed and not that smart with many decissions. The writing, music, world design, universe, lore and acting are all better in the DLC areas, by a large margin.
Hell, compare the argonian voices in Murkmire to the ones in the vanilla game. Many of the actors are the same, but the acting is far superior thanks to the voice directors and writers.
Lawrence Schick and Zeb Cook are nearly legendary for their work in TSR during the early days of Dungeons & Dragons, and the new talent like Leamon Tuttle are really shaking a lot of preconceived notions about the lore (He was the man responsible for Sotha Sil and the Clockwork City)
I suspect that Bethesda will have to hire, or at least consult many of the ZOS developers to get their ideas into TES VI. Which wouldn't be that difficult, considering Todd Howard and his team are literally a 30 minute car drive away from ZOS.Edited by Marto on October 27, 2018 10:34PM"According to the calculations of the sages of the Cult of the Ancestor Moth, the batam guar is the cutest creature in all Tamriel"14 -
myskyrim26✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoHell no. ESO is just an MMO. It can't be compared to a single game experience. There is plank, however - the cultural diversity that ESO offers. TES6 will not offer this, I think.4 -
Greg11jkalfa✭✭✭Yesmyskyrim26 wrote: »Hell no. ESO is just an MMO. It can't be compared to a single game experience. There is plank, however - the cultural diversity that ESO offers. TES6 will not offer this, I think.
Again, my exaples for what I meant are in the main post. I understand I should have phrased the question better, but my point is that ESO does freedom of customization a thousand times better than Skyrim. And after it failed to bring better customization than Oblivion, which released in 2006, I'm simply worried for the future.When the next Elder Scroll is written, you shall be it's scribe.-Martin SeptimMember Since June 9, 20151 -
myskyrim26✭✭✭✭✭
✭No@Greg11jkalfa
You see, we have an option to change Oblivion and Skyrim as hard as we want to. For Skyrim, I once collected mods that made my exploration as hard as possible. Everything is possible with mods. Two rings? As you wish, just install a mod. Ten rings? Why not? Lilmothiit race? Ok! Dwemer? Shure! An Orc who is a master of shadow and stealing? Again, yes!
Can ESO provide this? No. I even can't play a stam DD. Nobody wants me in a serious content.Edited by myskyrim26 on October 27, 2018 10:43PM5 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nonone of us will ever see an Elder Scrolls 6 game.
eso is the end of the series.
i'm sorry.
"and that is a promise."
Edited by Gilvoth on October 27, 2018 11:02PM2 -
myskyrim26✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nodwemer_paleologist wrote: »none of us will ever see an Elder Scrolls 6 game.
eso is the end of the series.
i'm sorry.
I've... just seen a Dwemer?!Edited by myskyrim26 on October 27, 2018 10:45PM0 -
Valykc✭✭✭✭✭NoLol what a ridiculous poll. Why don’t you compare performance of ESO and Skyrim, that alone is what will make ESVI better than ESO. Plus it won’t be spearheaded by ZOS devs so that’s another huge plus. I’ll take better performance and fun gameplay over customization any day.9 -
Chicharron✭✭✭✭✭
✭I only know that the combat team is not the same and is the only thing i need to know.Edited by Chicharron on October 27, 2018 10:48PM3 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nothis made me laugh lol
eso has set the bar so low for the next tes game, as long as tes 6 can run at a stable 40 frames per second without mods ill be happy lol oh and doesnt have loot boxes in it
If anything I think eso reflects badly on the tes series and bethesda as a whole, Ik there different companies but still. Tes 6 definitely has some healing to do in regards to the tes franchise15 -
Bruccius✭✭✭✭✭NoESO is a spinoff title. Good as it may be considering it's a spinoff, it's still just that; a spinoff.
TES 6 is going to focus on one province (maybe two) from what we can see of the trailer, there's going to be far more detail than in ESO.12 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nothis made me laugh lol
eso has set the bar so low for the next tes game, as long as tes 6 can run at a stable 40 frames per second without mods ill be happy lol oh and doesnt have loot boxes in it
If anything I think eso reflects badly on the tes series and bethesda as a whole, Ik there different companies but still. Tes 6 definitely has some healing to do in regards to the tes franchise
well said
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myskyrim26✭✭✭✭✭
✭No@Greg11jkalfa
But as for things like armor and clothing... I guess, Morrowind was a highest bar. Everything could be equipped as separate pieces, we even could wear robes above armor...
And I'm shure in TES6 we will not be able to create unique cultures. Like, now I dress my Argonian character in Argonian motifs. Nothing of that kind I expect from TES6. Everyone will wear Breton clothes, or Redguard clothes - depends on the place where action will be. Argonian in Redguard clothes. Oh, crap...Edited by myskyrim26 on October 27, 2018 10:54PM6 -
Bruccius✭✭✭✭✭NoAbsolutely. ESO currently has probably the best writing team, voice acting cast, and worldbuilders the franchise has ever seen.
Key word: Currently.
The team that worked in vanilla ESO, released in 2014, was unprepared, uninspired, rushed and not that smart with many decissions. The writing, music, world design, universe, lore and acting are all better in the DLC areas, by a large margin.
Hell, compare the argonian voices in Murkmire to the ones in the vanilla game. Many of the actors are the same, but the acting is far superior thanks to the voice directors and writers.
Lawrence Schick and Zeb Cook are nearly legendary for their work in TSR during the early days of Dungeons & Dragons, and the new talent like Leamon Tuttle are really shaking a lot of preconceived notions about the lore (He was the man responsible for Sotha Sil and the Clockwork City)
I suspect that Bethesda will have to hire, or at least consult many of the ZOS developers to get their ideas into TES VI. Which wouldn't be that difficult, considering Todd Howard and his team are literally a 30 minute car drive away from ZOS.
I think you underestimate the people who have owned this franchise since 1994. Especially considering they changed a bunch of that lore 10 years later.
The beauty of ESO being set in the Second Era is that no records of that time period existed in the rest of the games. That's half of the reason why ESO takes place when it does.2
