Valrien wrote: »

So, a lot of people say "We want dual wands skill line!!!" I say..."Why? There's a perfectly good DW skill line already"

So why not just turn Dual Wield into a hybrid skill tree where the stam morphs have magicka morphs?

It makes sense since most class skills have stamina morphs and DW usually has one morph that no one takes for one reason or another.

So I propose:
-Lascerate: Either morph works here really since not many people use either one

-Flurry: Once again either morph works here but I would say Bloodthirst is slightly less popular

-Twin Slashes: Definitely Blood Craze as most Stamina users use Rending Slashes

-Whirlwind: The obvious answer here is whirling blades. The reduced cost fits nicely with Magicka skills normally being so excessively expensive

-Blade Cloak: I hesitate to make a suggestion here because both morphs are used by Stamina pretty handily but I suppose Quick Cloak if one has to have a magicka morph?

-Hidden Blade: Flying Blade. The range and damage increase works perfectly for magicka users and a lot of Stamina players use the other morph for the bounce regardless

What does this accomplish? It effectively gives magicka players another skill line to work with and brings back the much-beloved playstyle of DW magicka builds. More DoTs, more spammables, more AoE, etc etc. Plus, it would not be too terribly hard to make light attacks and heavy attacks function like Burning Light, where it changes based on which primary stats are higher so that they can easily fit in with both playstyles.

TL;DR Give Magicka some dual wield options to return this much-beloved playstyle to the players

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Hey then magicka could get on the quad enchant train without running a stamina ability!

Colecovision wrote: »

I'm all for DW harry potter if it makes you happy, but you're way off on your class skill comment. There's only a handful of class skills for stam. It's limited enough to where it's dw/bow meta on every class in pve. I think DK only has 2 stam morphs. Stam sorc is weapons, hurricane and like one other thing, I can't remember because hurricane is the entire class identity for stam sorc. I remember trying to level one and I had to have a pet to level the line all the way up to get to the morph I wanted. Then there was no stam pet morph to keep that skill.

And let's be clear. It's all magic in this game. Poisons claws from within, arrows falling from the sky and blades floating in mid air cloaking the caster are all magic. Speaking of arrows, where the heck are the arrows in this game? This game has green magic and blue magic. There's no logic connected that limits the devs from using green or blue on a skill line.

Why not just add a passive to have dual maces turn a few selected skills blue? No one cares about maces.

nryerson1025 wrote: »

Duel wands with enchantment dmg bonus are a fantastic idea

idk wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

I want stam morphs from the resto line then.

Just as soon as we get a Magicka Vigor...

LOL., Like magika has an actual need for vigor with all the choices available .

To the OPs point, a retro of the DW for magicka use would leave the game with a sub par magicka weapon to use just like the ice staff is inferior to S&B.

You say that, but in all reality it has basically everything a magicka user could want in a weapon line.

Spam (two of them), single target DoT, Major Evasion, execute damage, bonus spell damage, etc etc

Plus I mean, spell crit from daggers, 5% damage from swords, spell pen from maces, magic bleed from axes? It would be fantastic

And yes, certain magicka users actually could very much use Vigor. Sorc, for example

You say that but you are assuming changes would not be made and that the changes would not harm stam play. Lets be real. When is Zos came up with a great idea for changing something? Never.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

I would rather a weapon set for mages. A weapon line made for magic. Any changes to dual weild would just be a crazy nerf.

For the most part, only one morph is used by stam users...so this would not be a nerf in the slightest.

It would seem that stamina players are perfectly okay with taking morphs of magicka players...but God forbid magicka want some morphs of stam abilities...

Stamina don’t take any magic morphs the devs made a game with four classes and then made everything about the classes magic. Nearly everything about the class are still magic. Dual Wield is a stamina weapon with powers and passives build and balanced for stamina.

Building a hybrid weapon is just bad will it give both resources if yes it would be unbalanced, or would have to return half as much but you get both. If it did one at a time would be be stamina first then magic that’s a problem you can’t get the one you want in one heavy attacks so you need two. If it’s based on the highest stat then hybrids would never get the other and if it was based on the morphs again hybrid using a stamina and a morph would be screwed.

All the work that making this both means it will never happen period. If all five powers and the ultimate had a magic morph then all powers and ultimates would need a stamina morph to be fair.