jypcy wrote: »

Yes, but the point is proactively casting vigor won’t save you from a hit that could one shot you. Proactively casting a shield can.

Magicka toon got shields, on certain bosses we must deal with mechanics away from the boss (Without healer), All our own healing is based on dmg (DK, NB and Templar) and critt dmg (Sorc). We do have the possibility in some fights to stack on the stamina, but not always. Apart from that a end game mag has enough stamina for 3 dodge roll, OR 3 break free, OR block for a short amount of time, and then we gotta wait for that amazing 600-800 stam recovery to do its work so we can defend ourself again.

while stamina stand on the boss. On the boss there is; Circle of protection, constant healing springs, warden buff (monster set), extended ritual. And aside from that there are constant orbs flying towards the tank and blood altar in the grp.
And including all these nice buffs that are centered around the boss, staminas has vigor (That stacks), more stam for block, more stam for dodge roll and easy way to obtain stamina. Don't come here and say stamina is any weaker than mag with survivability.

Edit: Stamina also has easy access to 25% dmg reduction for AOE, And in Morrowind Trial dmg was changed so all dmg within trial is counted as AOE. So stamina can effectively reduce all dmg by 25% before any other buff.

Currently.. healers needs to split their focus. Making is even more stressful for healers than it already was.

I can use one example here(For lesser experienced grps). Vet Hel Rah, The Warrior during starfall phase. The group cannot stack, Stamina are around the boss while magicka stands on ranged (To not overlap starfalls). During this phase healers must heal center, if not the stamina dies. Magicka could survive while holding block and use 1 shield pr starfall. And if one of the healers are stoned the group is dead (or half the grp at least).

So I'll put this here:
#MagickaVigor! Give Magicka a heal on demand! Then we will use that over 40%/50% capped shields any day.

So, it is fair that stam has higher dps and better survivability than mags.

Ok, good to know I guess....

@Ragnarock41

I do agree with your general assessment that true solo PvP is quite dead outside NBs. There is so much damage flying around and so much literally broken stuff that the way of least resistance is always get more people. It’s sad really seeing everyone rolling in faction stacks.