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What do you think the majority of veteran dungeon PUG dps is?

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Gulnagel
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And why do you think so?

What do you think the majority of veteran dungeon PUG dps is? 104 votes

5-10k
14%
deLioncourtThrabenMost_AwesomefioskalHortator Indoril NerevarRobvenomgreyloxHvzedasusmitdsFlipsKikkeZer0ooeso_nyaDrybonez32Navras 15 votes
10-15k
34%
Svenjaninibinirosendoichinoveb17_ESOTavore1138AcharnorVahrokhVaranaReverbPaganiniTheDarkShadowKatahdinkylewwefanLadyNalcaryajeedrzejShezzarrineRungarCarcharodontosaurusAlienatedGoatLoganEsoTrinotops 36 votes
15-20k
34%
Caligamy_ESOGlassHalfFullTureluszariaJoker99IdinuseLatiossynnermanOreyn_BearclawSarevoccdtsharplesEnemy-of-ColdharbourVevvevBananaPandoriiInarreDPShiroDrdeath20FLL200CYamiKuruku 36 votes
20-25k
12%
SkayaqWolfkeksFerrumnCutemsudaki_esozsbanNeyaneDoonerSeraphweedgeniusAgenericnamecolossalvoidsCyrriusGalaen_FrostEliteWarrior 13 votes
25-30k
3%
Swomp23StormChaser3000N3CR01Azriael2 4 votes
  • Sparr0w
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    10-15k
    I've pug tanked most dungeons.
    @Sparr0w so I get the notification
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  • weedgenius
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    20-25k
    The majority? Not the average?
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  • LadyNalcarya
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    10-15k
    They buffed light attacks, so it should be at least around 10k with reasonable gear.
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  • Creationofgod
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    15-20k
    I think only an elite few can actually reach 20k consistant.

    keep in mind that vet dungeons actually requires people to move arround and block or cc break sometimes. so 10 sec of every boss fight not doing damage lowers the DPS. also sustain playes a role !
    PC eu. Main : Magplar cp 320
  • Turelus
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    15-20k
    15-20k seems the average for non-meta minded players with basic grasps on game knowledge.
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  • rosendoichinoveb17_ESO
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    10-15k
    its horrible, the difference always increases between the casual players and the hardcore ones. There was a time where we complained between 5k DPS and 45k dps differences. Now its between 5k dps and up to 70k+, basically nothing has improved for the lower bar players.

    I mean if they do only light attacks they can make up to 15-20k dps, I dont know whats going on.
    Edited by rosendoichinoveb17_ESO on October 23, 2018 10:43AM
  • Gulnagel
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    rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »
    its horrible, the difference always increases between the casual players and the hardcore ones. There was a time where we complained between 5k DPS and 45k dps differences. Now its between 5k dps and up to 70k+, basically nothing has improved for the lower bar players.

    I mean if they do only light attacks they can make up to 15-20k dps, I dont know whats going on.

    5k dps, is that possible?
  • nryerson1025
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    Gulnagel wrote: »
    rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »
    its horrible, the difference always increases between the casual players and the hardcore ones. There was a time where we complained between 5k DPS and 45k dps differences. Now its between 5k dps and up to 70k+, basically nothing has improved for the lower bar players.

    I mean if they do only light attacks they can make up to 15-20k dps, I dont know whats going on.

    5k dps, is that possible?

    it is, i literally just got out of volenfell wiht a cap cp dps who was using uppercut, backing up, crit charging and uppercut again, rinse repeat. his dps was 5k
  • Drdeath20
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    15-20k
    It can be terrible at times
  • Hortator Indoril Nerevar
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    5-10k
    Gulnagel wrote: »
    And why do you think so?

    I cant find the "Most people seem to not have arms and have to remind themselves to breath in and out" option...
  • kylewwefan
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    10-15k
    At CP 170 now, I’ve got up to.....13k.

    If I can get my gear straightened out, I’m sure it will go up to 20k+

    I’m not wasting any more time beating a dummy until the gear situation is more optimal.

  • Svenja
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    10-15k
    Sometimes I am healing pug dungeons and I am more than happy and surprised if the total group dps actually exceeds 30k in a single target fight.
    More often than not I am doing ~25% of the group damage in a full healer spec, only by casting spear shards, templar ritual, elemental blockade and the occasional heavy attack. I think average dps per DD is 10k.
    Edited by Svenja on October 23, 2018 11:27AM
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  • zaria
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    15-20k
    rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »
    its horrible, the difference always increases between the casual players and the hardcore ones. There was a time where we complained between 5k DPS and 45k dps differences. Now its between 5k dps and up to 70k+, basically nothing has improved for the lower bar players.

    I mean if they do only light attacks they can make up to 15-20k dps, I dont know whats going on.
    How do you get 15K dps with LA only?
    Combat metric image and gear you use :)
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  • greylox
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    5-10k
    I tend to get anywhere between 15 and 30k single target depending on the boss and how much moving/dodging I have to do but I tend to see a lot less generally. That's with my main, a pet sorc...which has been nerfed so I expect to get less when I finally manage to get on the new update.
    Edited by greylox on October 23, 2018 11:35AM
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  • rosendoichinoveb17_ESO
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    10-15k
    zaria wrote: »
    rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »
    its horrible, the difference always increases between the casual players and the hardcore ones. There was a time where we complained between 5k DPS and 45k dps differences. Now its between 5k dps and up to 70k+, basically nothing has improved for the lower bar players.

    I mean if they do only light attacks they can make up to 15-20k dps, I dont know whats going on.
    How do you get 15K dps with LA only?
    Combat metric image and gear you use :)

    The average LA of a magicka trial player is above 15k. I have seen my max LA wihout any special LA gear to crit for 25k so the average is between 15k and 20k DPS as long as you do not miss any light attacks between any of the skills. CPs are what plays a big role in this + inferno staff. I dont use anything special, my gear is master architect+ julianos. But we all know that most of us will be switching to that one set that will probably get nerfed after a few patches so I wont mention it.
  • DoonerSeraph
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    20-25k
    Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
    Gulnagel wrote: »
    And why do you think so?

    I cant find the "Most people seem to not have arms and have to remind themselves to breath in and out" option...

    Thanks, now we're all breathing manually. 😬
  • FakeFox
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    10-15k
    LadyNalcarya wrote: »
    They buffed light attacks, so it should be at least around 10k with reasonable gear.

    That doesn't do much if you don't light attack. ;)
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  • Thraben
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    5-10k
    Basically 2/3 of the PUG DPS are Fake DPS.

    People have no idea how big the gap between normal players who are forced to run as dps because they can't tank or heal,

    and those who specialize in group DPS is.


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  • Varana
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    10-15k
    Nice. The circle has closed - apparently, the queues consist of fake tanks, fake DPS, and fake healers. :D
  • zaria
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    15-20k
    rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »
    zaria wrote: »
    rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »
    its horrible, the difference always increases between the casual players and the hardcore ones. There was a time where we complained between 5k DPS and 45k dps differences. Now its between 5k dps and up to 70k+, basically nothing has improved for the lower bar players.

    I mean if they do only light attacks they can make up to 15-20k dps, I dont know whats going on.
    How do you get 15K dps with LA only?
    Combat metric image and gear you use :)

    The average LA of a magicka trial player is above 15k. I have seen my max LA wihout any special LA gear to crit for 25k so the average is between 15k and 20k DPS as long as you do not miss any light attacks between any of the skills. CPs are what plays a big role in this + inferno staff. I dont use anything special, my gear is master architect+ julianos. But we all know that most of us will be switching to that one set that will probably get nerfed after a few patches so I wont mention it.
    Has to check, pretty sure my don't do more than 7k with necro / julianos, but that might well be non crit.

    I say average group dps tend to be in the 40-50k range in most vet dungeons. That is for burn bosses with no adds.
    if its lots of mechanic to handle it drops very fast,

    Was in one nAC run there group dps was 50k, yes people died all the time so most time was spent ressing.
    A few horrible runs but they are the exception
    Edited by zaria on October 23, 2018 1:58PM
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • LadyNalcarya
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    10-15k
    FakeFox wrote: »
    LadyNalcarya wrote: »
    They buffed light attacks, so it should be at least around 10k with reasonable gear.

    That doesn't do much if you don't light attack. ;)

    But it would help if they only light attack :)
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  • SickDuck
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    Varana wrote: »
    Nice. The circle has closed - apparently, the queues consist of fake tanks, fake DPS, and fake healers. :D

    Which means either we are all fake players or it is fake news.
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  • Mintaka5
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    15-20k
    Most players lie about it anyway.

    My first vet trial was vAA, and I was eager to get in. The GM asked me what my parse was, and I just spewed out the most popular number that everyone was throwing down (i.e. 30K-40K dps). At the time i was really only sustaining 10K, with 15K bursts on my magsorc. We completed the trial with ease, and everyone in raid was none the wiser to my little white lie. We did well in that trial because we had a good GM, and everyone was given specific instructions on how to work the mechanics.

    tl;dr DPS is not solely end-game strategy.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    15-20k
    When I queue as a tank, it is rare that I see group DPS north of 40k. When I queue as a DPS, a 45-50k parse or so will usually be at least 65% of group DPS if not more.
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