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CE Reloaded vs Broken Mechanics
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It doesn't work like that. Though we occasionally see overt cheaters captured in videos -- often low cp accounts which may be burners -- most are very subtle about it to avoid suspicion because the primary motive is usually status IMO. It has to be plausibly deniable or the purpose of cheating is defeated.this is partially why i always felt that they needed vet cyrodill so if you cant stop guys from cheating you can use their artificial success against them and make them segregate themselves. I imagine they gain points at 100 times a regular player so it wouldnt be long before they take care of themselves.
I also want to add that no one should presume another player is cheating without evidence. The vast majority of players accused of cheating are not. In every game, the best players are often accused of cheating.Edited by zyk on October 22, 2018 6:47PM4 -
Vrenk✭✭✭Although I have nothing but a funny screenshot of the guy, he was however moving around with 0% health AND still able to use abilities for minutes on end around aleswell.
from what I saw the farthest he was able to jump was from ales north tower to the second wall south, almost near the postern house.Edited by Vrenk on October 22, 2018 6:53PM
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It doesn't work like that. Though we occasionally see overt cheaters captured in videos -- often low cp accounts which may be burners -- most are very subtle about it to avoid suspicion because the primary motive is usually status IMO. It has to be plausibly deniable or the purpose of cheating is defeated.this is partially why i always felt that they needed vet cyrodill so if you cant stop guys from cheating you can use their artificial success against them and make them segregate themselves. I imagine they gain points at 100 times a regular player so it wouldnt be long before they take care of themselves.
I also want to add that no one should presume another player is cheating without evidence. The vast majority of players accused of cheating are not. In every game, the best players are often accused of cheating.
it does give everyone else a break though. Consider it a graduation for the overly skilled players, however that skill has come about.only a few years left to go now....
Current ideas for ESO improvement
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Ashanne✭✭✭✭Stupid question, but how did he get Undaunted title at level 26? Undaunted title means level 10 in the undaunted skill line.
The xp alone gained from doing that would get him over level 26.
And what about the level 21 alliance rank on a level 26...WTF is this? Can i get a pm with the clip, pretty plz5 -
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You can see how debuffed he is and the amount of damage he was taking yet his health doesn't drop below 100% and he is still able to move around and cast abilities, at least he wasn't abusing it he was just running around the entire time.Edited by Vrenk on October 22, 2018 7:13PM
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RobZha✭✭✭InvitationNotFound wrote: »A player couldn't be killed, while he was at 0 health. For quite a while, while players were casting executes. He just stood there. No blocking, no healing, no nothing. Then he moved and jumped around with a very high speed. Like 20m+ meters over a breach (no dragon leap / streak or things like that).
Sounds like he maybe watched The Matrix for the first time, logged on to ESO then decided to alter the game code. If he was from DC or was an Elf I don't have a huge issue with it to be honest.
Well there goes my ****post seeing as I can't log in, time to go off and do something else.
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Synthwavius✭✭✭✭You just reminded me why I don't touch pvp in eso. It usually brings cancer to every game and there will always be cheaters no matter what anticheat they would use.3 -
PeterUnlustig✭✭✭✭in the vid you can clearly see that hes not in execute range since your dmg is super low0
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PuddingZebra✭✭✭This is what you get for nerfing speed.
If only people knew what they were talking about.
Already reported this issue before but youknow, Zo$ does not care. They bandaid "fix" this game over and over again.
my last #RemoveSpeedcap2018 here, and a wish that people stopped complaining about CE if they dont even know the limits of CE and the current countermeasures from Zo$.
So much for ignoring bugreports
All things used by this player are 100% valid and actually within game mechanics. Some bugged, but been bugged for years, and even after countless reports Zo$ is not fixing it. Why bother then.
A call to all players: learn the game. Learn the mechanics. "exploit" the mechanics. Maybe ZoS will fix it, then.
You see, I am a Pink Flying Pudding Zebra.0 -
killahsin✭✭✭just because something is capable within the games current mechanics doesnt mean ***. I know 2 people who were banned after the launch of the champion system for making builds that were unkillable within the system, after they reported it. ZoS tends to ban you harder if you report something and then do it anyway.1
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PuddingZebra✭✭✭just because something is capable within the games current mechanics doesnt mean ***. I know 2 people who were banned after the launch of the champion system for making builds that were unkillable within the system, after they reported it. ZoS tends to ban you harder if you report something and then do it anyway.
Oh imagine Zo$ actually looking at reports.
Would be a good day indeed.
I know multiple players that have been banned for "cheating". (AKA a set number of reports from uninformed players)
If i find a bug, i record and report it as accurately as i can, then wait 2 patch cycles. if it hasnt been fixed by then i enjoy the most out of it.
I shouldn't be getting restricted by incompetence of Zo$.You see, I am a Pink Flying Pudding Zebra.0 -
killahsin✭✭✭Yup that is exactly what happened. They reported it zoS didnt fix it and then they were rage reported repeatedly until banned.1
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✭SO. how much would people pay me for revealing the secret.
Other than saying battlescaling is op and that the OP didnt spam executes xD
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mistermacintosh✭✭✭Shadow-Fighter wrote: »As long as bots running in some places I don't will never trust ZOS
Bots are back... again. Reported at least a dozen running around Moonmont wayshrine over the past week. They were still there last night.Legalize Nirnroot!
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VinayExile✭✭✭✭Little did all of you know, you can even noclip/teleport/godmode anything like in a normal TES game.
but who cares really?
this game has been broken since day 1 even if the cheaters go away it will still be broken.
every DLC that comes out you are afraid to even log on and see how bad it will be this time.
so no i will not referr to how you can do these things because lets face it
zos dont care and dont know where to start fixing it anyway
and if you dont believe me they exist, just search on youtube
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Montayva✭✭✭✭PuddingZebra wrote: »just because something is capable within the games current mechanics doesnt mean ***. I know 2 people who were banned after the launch of the champion system for making builds that were unkillable within the system, after they reported it. ZoS tends to ban you harder if you report something and then do it anyway.
Oh imagine Zo$ actually looking at reports.
Would be a good day indeed.
I know multiple players that have been banned for "cheating". (AKA a set number of reports from uninformed players)
If i find a bug, i record and report it as accurately as i can, then wait 2 patch cycles. if it hasnt been fixed by then i enjoy the most out of it.
I shouldn't be getting restricted by incompetence of Zo$.
the sheer amount of dumb things i've seen been 'reported' its no wonder the real issues get lost honestly. Blame all the people who mass report players for simply not liking them, or uneducated people reporting every little thing they think is a bug, when in actual fact its just a skill they'd never heard of on their death recap. But rather than googling something they just submit that report ticket.Montayva: EP, AD, DC Magplar | Mistress Montayva: AD, DC, EP Mag DK | Rharhey: EP, AD Mag Sorccrafters
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rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭the funnier part is people trying to negate/hide its existence
There is a simple reason why they do it... they are CE users.
It's been a problem for a long time... you have a constant and constant presence of those that wish to deny it works, all from the same source.
There was someone that posted private conversations of this group of players a long while back. They are all in on it, they are all in the same guild(s) and they know exactly what is being done (and they have been doing it for years now).
I'll just add that some of the "competitive" pvp guilds/groups that do a lot of forum smack talking are absolutely CE users (to varying degrees).
They even brag about their inside man now if you peruse their posts, as they got one into the player rep program (no names!)
ZOS did not address it, they just made it so these "great" "awesome" players are cannon fodder for 3 days after a major patch and then go back to "augmented mode". Take a good luck at the deniers and to who they respond in defense... They are all connected in game, as they have been for some time.4 -
PuddingZebra✭✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »the funnier part is people trying to negate/hide its existence
There is a simple reason why they do it... they are CE users.
It's been a problem for a long time... you have a constant and constant presence of those that wish to deny it works, all from the same source.
There was someone that posted private conversations of this group of players a long while back. They are all in on it, they are all in the same guild(s) and they know exactly what is being done (and they have been doing it for years now).
I'll just add that some of the "competitive" pvp guilds/groups that do a lot of forum smack talking are absolutely CE users (to varying degrees).
They even brag about their inside man now if you peruse their posts, as they got one into the player rep program (no names!)
ZOS did not address it, they just made it so these "great" "awesome" players are cannon fodder for 3 days after a major patch and then go back to "augmented mode". Take a good luck at the deniers and to who they respond in defense... They are all connected in game, as they have been for some time.
Sigh. it's exactly this what makes me sad. People STILL thinking you can do *** with CE nowadays. have you EVER even CONSIDERED looking into it? no? exactly...
You see, I am a Pink Flying Pudding Zebra.0 -
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✭I remember a previous thread about CE and someone saying they would sacrifice an account to prove they could replicate what people were calling CE with legit in game means. I do not remember the name, it was about a month ago I think.
Just wondering if this was them.0 -
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✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »the funnier part is people trying to negate/hide its existence
There is a simple reason why they do it... they are CE users.
It's been a problem for a long time... you have a constant and constant presence of those that wish to deny it works, all from the same source.
There was someone that posted private conversations of this group of players a long while back. They are all in on it, they are all in the same guild(s) and they know exactly what is being done (and they have been doing it for years now).
I'll just add that some of the "competitive" pvp guilds/groups that do a lot of forum smack talking are absolutely CE users (to varying degrees).
They even brag about their inside man now if you peruse their posts, as they got one into the player rep program (no names!)
ZOS did not address it, they just made it so these "great" "awesome" players are cannon fodder for 3 days after a major patch and then go back to "augmented mode". Take a good luck at the deniers and to who they respond in defense... They are all connected in game, as they have been for some time.
why would anyone use CE and get banned for it. if you can do so many more even funnier things without CE^^1 -
PuddingZebra✭✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »the funnier part is people trying to negate/hide its existence
There is a simple reason why they do it... they are CE users.
It's been a problem for a long time... you have a constant and constant presence of those that wish to deny it works, all from the same source.
There was someone that posted private conversations of this group of players a long while back. They are all in on it, they are all in the same guild(s) and they know exactly what is being done (and they have been doing it for years now).
I'll just add that some of the "competitive" pvp guilds/groups that do a lot of forum smack talking are absolutely CE users (to varying degrees).
They even brag about their inside man now if you peruse their posts, as they got one into the player rep program (no names!)
ZOS did not address it, they just made it so these "great" "awesome" players are cannon fodder for 3 days after a major patch and then go back to "augmented mode". Take a good luck at the deniers and to who they respond in defense... They are all connected in game, as they have been for some time.
why would anyone use CE and get banned for it. if you can do so many more even funnier things without CE^^
^this.You see, I am a Pink Flying Pudding Zebra.0 -
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✭Is this who I think this is (on EU)? If so, hahahaha.Overload rework. Power Overload now does physical damage and grants you the power of a tornado: You throw a brick at the target with a light attack, and you hammer your head into that brick with every heavy attack. We have decreased its Ultimate cost, but increased the chance that you get stuck in the animation.0 -
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Apparently you aren't quite the hacker you think you are ...PuddingZebra wrote: »Sigh. it's exactly this what makes me sad. People STILL thinking you can do *** with CE nowadays. have you EVER even CONSIDERED looking into it? no? exactly...
I have a set of tests i run after each major patch and the amount you still CAN modify to gain an advantage is larger than anything even suggested in this thread.
And you don't even need CE if you know your way around windows memory management, you can do this with off-the-shelve development tools.
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✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »the funnier part is people trying to negate/hide its existence
There is a simple reason why they do it... they are CE users.
It's been a problem for a long time... you have a constant and constant presence of those that wish to deny it works, all from the same source.
There was someone that posted private conversations of this group of players a long while back. They are all in on it, they are all in the same guild(s) and they know exactly what is being done (and they have been doing it for years now).
I'll just add that some of the "competitive" pvp guilds/groups that do a lot of forum smack talking are absolutely CE users (to varying degrees).
They even brag about their inside man now if you peruse their posts, as they got one into the player rep program (no names!)
ZOS did not address it, they just made it so these "great" "awesome" players are cannon fodder for 3 days after a major patch and then go back to "augmented mode". Take a good luck at the deniers and to who they respond in defense... They are all connected in game, as they have been for some time.
why would anyone use CE and get banned for it. if you can do so many more even funnier things without CE^^
It would be because they are using and not getting banned for it.
How many times is "heavy attack weave lol" going to be an acceptable answer to how do 0 regen builds sustain?3
