Yes you can try Shacklebreaker its a good options, or resource poisons maybe.
There is also a purple drink that gives tri-stat (Clockwork something) this should proc bone pirate.

I was having the same issue and changed to shacklebreaker with 3 prismatic glyphs ( helmet chest pants). That solved all my magicka problems!

Can’t run bird of Prey and leeching vines together

Not this patch anyway

Don’t run prisoners just so you can have more uptime on those buffs... run a set that gives more than those buffs (7th)

Drop leeching and run tripots

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Currently running Impreg and bone pirate. Seems like im running out of magicka alot using ice fortress, bird of prey, leeching vines, shimmering shield. Should i go bone pirate and shacklebreaker? or stick with impreg? also using dw/2h. should i switch to 2h and snb? thanks

The tri stat thing that someone else said. It really works!

Tripots are good, but in BG imovable potions is a must and hard to live without

His magicka regen to 2K? He's running a stamden! I played as one for a while. My recommendation: Don't use the 10 second buffs on a stam build. Just stick to Ice Fortress, Green Lotus, and Shimmering Shield. The only skill that I wanted more mag sustain for was that last one. Yeah, they turned Minor Berserk into a passive, but it hasn't fitted well into my build yet.

Shacklebreaker is always good. Prisoner is an interesting option for the off bar, but from my experience of that set, it's a quality of life set. Can't rely on it's mag regen in a brawl.

Running the Betty Netch might be an interesting solution, not least because you also get the spammable purge. That said, I do the opposite on my magden. I prefer the Bull Netch for the sustain during sprint and block.

Another interesting solution can be a resto backbar on a stam build. This gives you the option of resto heavies and the resto ult works reasonably well, even on a stam build. This is not great, however, if it means you get rid of a weapons skill (Poison Injection), but if your backbar only has class abilities, it's viable.

You're asking me? I don't rate 7th at all. The first question you need to answer for yourself is whether you like medium or heavy better. I prefer medium by a mile, but what do I know. I'm decent, but I don't play at the highest level. The inherent sustain (vs. when attacked), sprint speed, dodge cost reduction, higher crit, higher base damage. I invariably end up with Fortified Brass or 1x other defensive set to compensate for the relative lack of tankiness, but I prefer that to heavy. I guess now that Swift is nerfed, you could also go with 3x Protective. This is the approach I use on my magplar, where I have 1x attack (Overwhelming Surge) and 1x sustain / attack (Amber Plasm), along with 3x Protective and a defensive monster set (Pirate Skeleton). The same principle applies to medium builds. There are so many ways to build that yield very similar end results.

Spriggan and Bone Pirate are both very good sets. Spriggan can be single-barred, so if there is a vMA/Asylum/vDSA etc. weapon you have for the other bar, that could be a good choice. The obvious example would be a Master Bow. Bone Pirate needs to be double-barred and forces you to use a drink, so Artaeum Takeaway Broth and tri-stat foods are out. It's not quite as good a set as people make it out to be. The use of drinks also tends to force you into lots of Hakeijo runes to get your magicka up. Nothing wrong with that approach, but just saying.

By the way, you're in the right ballpark with your armor sets for PvP. Don't agonise too much over the exact sets you're using. None of them are all that different. There is a fair degree of balance in the game, contrary to what people like to complain about. The end-result is that you just end up chasing your tail when trying out different armor sets, as long as you got the basics right.

The two steps to deal with your mag sustain are cutting down your mag skills to the essentials and getting just a little more mag / mag regen. IMO Shimmering Shield is the only skill I would bump my mag regen for. If you are in medium, keep Impreg and dump Bone Pirate for Shacklebreaker. It'll give you more flexibility with foods / drinks, and it gives you more overall stats:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/427111/stat-based-armor-set-rankings

Observe that Bone Pirate gives you a 3x strength 5-piece bonus, Shacklebreaker 3.65x. Bone Pirate forces you into drinks, which roughly rank as follows:

Spring Loaded Infusion: Around 9.5x (haven't calculated exactly)
Dubious Camoran Throne: 8x
Lava Foot Soup: 7x

Proper tri-stat food, however, ranks at 11x, e.g. it gives you 11 times the stats of a single 2/3/4-piece bonus from an armor set. This advantage is somewhat offset by using more prismatic enchants, which you tend to do when using drinks. Shacklebreaker just gives you more flexibility to try different food / drink options.

Now, you might hit something off-meta that works really nicely. I like the suggestion of pairing Prisoner with werewolf. Kristofer ESO, over on YouTube, has a build out that pairs Battlefield Acrobat with Alteration Mastery. Combine that with Shimmering Shield and Blood Spawn, and you could have a crazy ulti-gen build that might also suit a warden, who knows. But when it comes to the basics ... to be honest, don't even waste your gold on switching sets initially. Just cut back on your mag skills, get an extra piece of jewelry with a mag regen enchant, and swap that in and out until you know how much mag regen you truly need.

By the way, 7th Legion earned it's reputation when the heal would proc without cooldown, which has long been fixed. Personally I'm not mad about those heavy armor proc sets (not Ravager either). Now that penetration works against shields, I think Spriggan is hard to beat.

Magicka Sustain can be a little tricky with stamina warden at the start but gets better the more time you put into it.

Heavy armor passive constitution is a huge source of magicka sustain and because of that I recommend staying in heavy armor for stamina warden unless you are only concerned with doing the maximum damage you can do.

As for sets, I would not recommend running either impreg or bone pirate on stamina warden, here is why:
Assuming you are 5 heavy 1 medium 1 light which you should be as it has the best synergy with the class your heavy armor passives and health pool from running 5 heavy should be all the tankiness you should need, ruling impreg a less coveted set compared to other options available.
Because of Stamina Wardens access to decent/good stamina sustain through constitution passive, netch and on demand sustain from heavy attacks which get buffed by heavy armor passives (I also recommend putting some points into tenacity to maximize on this) your stamina sustain should be plenty fine without running a sustain set, if need be using 1 stamina regen glyph on your jewelry should be all the sustain you could ever need.

Because of heavy armor and stamina warden's survivability and tankiness through sheer passives and skills available in the class tool kit the main focus for sets should be which damage sets you prefer.
Any choice of the following paired together can perform well together and become situational/personal preference
Fury, Ravaging, Clever Alchemist, Spriggans, Seventh Legion
Monster set will generally be bloodspawn, velidreth is also a good choice if you ever become interested in dueling on the class.

As for weapon choice, that is entirely situational.
To keep it simple:
DW front bar is best if you have a group with a dedicated healer as you can sacrifice a CC ability for more aoe damage.
2h front bar is best if you are solo or in a small group where single target priority focus is more desired.
Sword and Board front bar can also be used in place of 2h front bar, simply back bar 2h and use SnB's offensive skills instead.


Hope this is helpful, if you have any more questions I'd be happy to answer them for you.