Facefister wrote: »

Don't follow the meta hype and configure your equipment for your likings. Meta-equipment will always be nerfed.

That’s actually exactly what I did

Gbnicholson1 wrote: »

New content used to excite me but at this point I’ve had a gold set nerfed in every patch since clockwork and it now includes sets I golded or transmuted to replace the nerfed ones. Now I’ve lost the motivation to grind for hours on end through restoration staffs of the local stamina set, cp level helmets and shoulders, or ap to spend on gold jewelry or monster sets, I’m def not Golding anything else so you’ve effectively nerfed the entire game for me. It’s just not fun to create a build just to try and continually have to grind it out over and over instead of actually being able to play it.

I don’t know what I did to upset you guys but I’m sorry, to make it up to you I’ll just tell you which gold sets I have that are still untouched if you want. Off the top of my head sheer venom and morag tong unless I missed something the past year.

If you’re not mad at me and I just have bad luck maybe consider reimbursing 100% of those purple and gold mats during Decon or anytime the sets nerfed to maybe not drive people away from the game?

Easy solution. Don't gold out super broken sets that ZOS takes way too long to fix. If anything be mad that they dont hotfix broken sets quicker but don't come to the forums to cry that you lost out on golding your sets when its obvious you were abusing a broken set. Sloady.

jcm2606 wrote: »

Jakx wrote: »

Gbnicholson1 wrote: »

New content used to excite me but at this point I’ve had a gold set nerfed in every patch since clockwork and it now includes sets I golded or transmuted to replace the nerfed ones. Now I’ve lost the motivation to grind for hours on end through restoration staffs of the local stamina set, cp level helmets and shoulders, or ap to spend on gold jewelry or monster sets, I’m def not Golding anything else so you’ve effectively nerfed the entire game for me. It’s just not fun to create a build just to try and continually have to grind it out over and over instead of actually being able to play it.

I don’t know what I did to upset you guys but I’m sorry, to make it up to you I’ll just tell you which gold sets I have that are still untouched if you want. Off the top of my head sheer venom and morag tong unless I missed something the past year.

If you’re not mad at me and I just have bad luck maybe consider reimbursing 100% of those purple and gold mats during Decon or anytime the sets nerfed to maybe not drive people away from the game?

Easy solution. Don't gold out super broken sets that ZOS takes way too long to fix. If anything be mad that they dont hotfix broken sets quicker but don't come to the forums to cry that you lost out on golding your sets when its obvious you were abusing a broken set. Sloady.

Dreugh King Slayer a broken set? What.

And impregnable. I got hit twice this time. I’ve also addressed Sload’s itt.

Sergykid wrote: »

so, a set that is not golden is unusable? from purple to gold is like a just 3% increase

and nobody forces you to grind. You grind because u want to suck every 1% you can to be top meta

This is a really weak argument. Why would you place the blame on this player who is simply saying that they are not motivated? I haven't seen people this unmotivated in game. It's a pretty low point for a lot of people. After four years of release, there shouldn't be any widespread class changes. Decent development would start with major changes and gradually towards fine tuning, like calling in mortar fire. The game has been working towards some good changes, however, with this patch, the baby went out of with the bathwater. So yes, I understand people not wanting to re trait or grind. I've done fine not chasing the meta from patch to patch, but I def will not to do big changes with some classes.

What really could happen with a good team that can bring general balance, is revisiting cp and then looking at the stockyards and grave yards of junk sets. All of that requires class and weapon line balance first. New weapons, skill lines, classes, plus minus systems can also be looked at. Sadly, the combat team is so clueless, that there isn't excitement in the community for ZOS to introduce weapons/classes, because there is doubt in their ability to do it well.

Don't be shocked when people are disappointed this patch. It's ok to call a crap sandwich crap.

The only thing I use gold mats for now is legendary master writs

starkerealm wrote: »

Colecovision wrote: »

Supposedly there is an inspirational mural on the wall at ZoS that just says, "Nerf Like No One is Watching!"

Sharee wrote: »

Don't run FOTM overpowered sets, and you won't have to replace them.

This has worked out well for me, overall. I'm also glad I didn't buy into the whole, "yeah, you need to get gold NMG everything."

Dreugh king slayer, cyrodiils crest, seventh legion, spc, and impregnable are not fotm.

Sheer venom and morag tong also aren’t, although morag tong seems to be meta.

Shacklebreaker, Julianos, fortified brass, clever alchemist, silks of the sun, vicious death, war maiden, essence theif, leeching plate, shield breaker, spriggan’s and netchs touch also survived btw.

I also had my own build for magdk that used the bonus for having multiple ardent flame abilities with innate axiom and that was screwed up when they changed abilities for dk (summerset I think), I had to be the only dk in the game to get nerfed. Was my favorite and that’s when it went downhill, murkmire sealed the deal though I don’t have time for this unless I get those labor intensive resources back.

So we have abilities on my main (stamdk) in clockwork, seventh legion in dragon bones, rip my dk in summerset, cyrodiils crest in wolfhunter that I had switched to from seventh legion and transmuted several weapons and jewelry of, and now dreugh king and impregnable which were the other sets that weren’t replaced from before. Some changes to monster helms too I think, and some weapon abilities along the way. I was excited for the improvements like 2 handed and staff 2 set bonuses, transmutation, etc so I overlooked what was piling up.

My magblade was nerfed similar to my dk over time, I’d say that was my second favorite. Several no longer have builds as I don’t have the motivation to make one, which I’ve always preferred to do, they just kind of sat there the past 6 months.

If you see that z box next to their name do not kill just lay down and die pretending to fight. Let them take the keep and everything just make it look real.

Think I am done with MMOs in general. This last ESO update did it for me. Not gonna re-grind for the next new meta so my class is playable again.

Flavor of the month means it’s enjoying a short period of popularity, all of those sets except maybe sheer venom have been around for a long time. It would have to be new, something like Sload’s. It would also have to be more recent, you can’t call something fotm if it’s been popular for a long time, like all the way back to summerset. I also explained I build these myself I don’t even really know how anyone would keep track of what set is and isn’t popular. If seventh legion became more popular because of the jewelry traits I didn’t notice.

I didn’t think alchemist, sheer venom and morag tong were nerfed, they were just balanced. Also before my time. Not every change is a nerf.

Do you play pvp? If you get the gold jewelry for the set it didn’t seem like a big deal to use the gold the rest, esp if you do daily writs and accumulate them. Lots of the pvp sets you can just buy gold jewelry in cheap and then gold the weapons. If you don’t want to be competitive I guess just gold weapons, but gold armor is nice to have if you’re outnumbered. I’d also want people to gold it instead of seeking off the gold mats then berating people for using them.

Aside from that the thing your saying about the sets being balanced now so it’s okay, I don’t understand why that would be an issue or like far fetched for someone to assume...

So in essence just saying don’t gold stuff isn’t a viable solution. Just saying expect a nerf if the set is op is also obviously wrong because we’re talking about sets that have been around not newly introduced ones. The gold mats have value beyond the igc they are worth for a reason and it’s not something that should be wasted.

If not during decon maybe have a new npc near rolis that will trade sets changed in any patch since 1.0 in for everything back post patch that looks like Todd Howard, maybe some dialogue about expecting his games to be full of bugs and balance issues but he’ll work with you. Why just erase the value of the mats when you could switch them around? I’d expect people want them to retain value to sell them as well so I’d expect trade guilds would appreciate it as well, because the alternative of deconing them and buying more isn’t happening as evidenced by everyone in his thread, both in agreement and disagreement with me. You said yourself just don’t gold it which is exactly what everyone in agreement with me is saying they do because of all the change.

What sets do you run btw?

Again, I can get by in vet pve with a purple and blue set with impen monster set, I get that. I’ve even left varying amounts of cp unassigned. I should have specified it’s more of an issue for pvp in the post.

Dysturbed wrote: »

Colecovision wrote: »

Supposedly there is an inspirational mural on the wall at ZoS that just says, "Nerf Like No One is Watching!"

And one below that that says, "Remember Balance Is Only Achieved When No Class Is Fun To Play."

I’ve always thought if I made a game I’d make one or two weapons and put a bunch of fake stats and different skins on it

You’d still have people like the ones itt saying this or that one is op and how you have no skill for using it.

Prior to this update I was getting Halloween skulls from overland bosses now im not, my dps, which was already low since im a tank/healer hybrid really took a mega slam. Jabs seems to have some ki9nd of weird delay cant spam them anymore, and RO doesn't do any damage lmao!

Gotta respect, so much for play your own way, this is by far the most ive ever been effected by a nerf.*shrugs*

Tempers are cheaper than ever and only golden weapons really make sense. Rest is just personal preference.