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Where is promised sustain improvement for Magsorc?

Zahkor
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Where is promised sustain improvement for Magsorc? Perheps it is elemental weapon cost increase or dark deal nerf? I am realy lost. Does those guys event know what're they doing? I wonder...
  • reprosal
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    Absorb magicka enchant with infused backbar will proc on any damage now.

    Guess that was there answer
  • idk
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    It would seem removing the CD on dark deal is the enhancement.
  • ccmedaddy
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    It looks like ZOS are trying to pigeonhole magsorcs into using pets in PvE. Thank god I've leveled a magblade before all of this happened lol.
    Edited by ccmedaddy on October 16, 2018 4:11PM
  • greenmachine
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    Don't have to spend Magicka on shields.
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  • Feanor
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    idk wrote: »
    It would seem removing the CD on dark deal is the enhancement.

    The cast time is still a comical 1.2 seconds in 4.2.4.
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  • reprosal
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    Meh. Either way. Sorcs can still hit 50k self buffed on a 6 mil..
  • SammyFable
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    reprosal wrote: »
    Meh. Either way. Sorcs can still hit 50k self buffed on a 6 mil..

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  • MashmalloMan
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    Stam sorc asking the same question.

    Guess our answer is absorb stamina being physical dmg making it being used on an infused bow more viable then the dps loss of not using poison glyph.

    Crushing weapon saw a reduced cost as well.

    Stam sorc has one of the highest stamina drains of any stam dps. I'm guessing magicka is just as bad. Hoping they look at removing the cast time of dark deal or making it fit within a GCD of 0.6-0.8 seconds at least.
    Edited by MashmalloMan on October 16, 2018 8:38PM
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  • KingExecration
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    Don't have to spend Magicka on shields.


    This is a buff if you don’t know what pvp is.
  • BalticBlues
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    Zahkor wrote: »
    Where is promised sustain improvement for Magsorc?
    - remove 3rd bar spells *check
    - remove 50% crippled shields *check
    - switch from LA to HA *check
    Voila, heavy attacks will now give more sustain to you!
  • Tannus15
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    Stam sorc asking the same question.

    Guess our answer is absorb stamina being physical dmg making it being used on an infused bow more viable then the dps loss of not using poison glyph.

    Crushing weapon saw a reduced cost as well.

    Stam sorc has one of the highest stamina drains of any stam dps. I'm guessing magicka is just as bad. Hoping they look at removing the cast time of dark deal or making it fit within a GCD of 0.6-0.8 seconds at least.

    mag sorc is worst for resource drain than stam sorc. :(

    It's easily the worst sustain of all classes / build
    Edited by Tannus15 on October 16, 2018 9:49PM
  • jcm2606
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    This same question can be asked for DK, to be honest. StamDK basically saw nothing change, and magDK actually got nerfed...
  • MashmalloMan
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    jcm2606 wrote: »
    This same question can be asked for DK, to be honest. StamDK basically saw nothing change, and magDK actually got nerfed...

    Actually the 25% cost reduction on poison is very strong for sustain, I did a parse on pts with blue buff food, redguard and using the venomous claw as a spammable, just under 50k self buffed with stamina drain the lowest of any class and 0 investment in to stam regen. 8k penetration from cp/mundus as base. Major fracture with 86% uptime. I finished all my parses with +80% stamina.

    On my stam sorc I run out of stamina at the end of a 6m parse with at least 3 heavy attacks and 450+ stam regen investment in stormfist + dubious cameron throne.

    See https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/373570/claw-of-the-mad-god-stamina-dk-pve-dd-build-50k-selfbuffed-murkmire-pts/p1
    Edited by MashmalloMan on October 16, 2018 11:29PM
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  • karekiz
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    It seems ZoS doesn't like to help non pet sorc style. So in effect fixing our pets dying I guess counts as a our "Sustain" buff.
  • ezio45
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    Feanor wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    It would seem removing the CD on dark deal is the enhancement.

    The cast time is still a comical 1.2 seconds in 4.2.4.

    not that were gunna have bar space for it with the second shield we have to add in pve -_- or aegis.....
  • bardx86
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    you will die before you can use all your magicka. sustain fixed.
  • Zatox
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    Now you cant spend your magicka to spam shields, so you can spend it on something else.
  • Narvuntien
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    As a MagSorc Healer I want some compensation for losing my overload bar, I literally don't have bar space for dark conversion any more.
  • Xvorg
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    Just in the same basket with the sustain improvement to DKs
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  • Biro123
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    Zatox wrote: »
    Now you cant spend your magicka to spam shields, so you can spend it on something else.

    I'm gonna spend mine on beer. Like Dr Strange. He's got it right....
    Minalan owes me a beer.

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  • Lord-Otto
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    Biro123 wrote: »
    Zatox wrote: »
    Now you cant spend your magicka to spam shields, so you can spend it on something else.

    I'm gonna spend mine on beer. Like Dr Strange. He's got it right....

    Not tea?
  • Inklings
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    Your Magsorcs mana bar is always full if you dont play them.
  • Tannus15
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    Inklings wrote: »
    Your Magsorcs mana bar is always full if you dont play them.

    Clearly not a magsorc main. ;)
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