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looking for a 2h night blade pvE build

boombazookajd
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There are a few out there according to ol' Google but they haven't been updated since Summerset.

Figured I could just swap Rending Slashes for a cleave morph and keep just about everything else as is, given NB's only weapon skill is usually rending slashes anyway.

What I'm concerned over is the cost of cleave compared to rending slashes, at 3240 its a hefty price for a skill that doesn't have a strong bleed dot that rending slashes does.

Drathus Delenu- Dunmer magDk: Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Stormproof, Peak Scaler, Clockwork Confounder, Orderly, Master Wizard, Cloudrest Hero, Undaunted, Dragonstar Arena Champion
Thoronir Rolston- Breton petsorc: Stormproof
Zaakazha-Redguard stamblade: Boethia's Scythe, Clockwork Confounder, Maelstrom Arena Champion, Dragonstar Arena Champion

Scrubs:
Justinius Maximus Decimus- Altmer magblade
Agronak gro'Mashul- Orc DK Tank
Valerya Hawkcroft- Breton healer
Zaaka- Imperial stamDK/crafter

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  • Bladerunner1
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    With the cost of Killers Blade and Assassin's Will going up in a couple weeks, you might run into sustain problems anyway. At the very least you could add an absorb stamina glyph to an infused bow or 2H without much DPS loss, absorb stamina is getting buffed. 2H heavy attacks seem pretty long, but they will soon add 2 ticks to the Relentless Focus 5 count to proc assassin's will.

    I think of 2H as a mob pile survival weapon more than anything since the Brawler shield is getting buffed with spell and physical resistance. Also from my last test on the PTS Power Extraction was dealing within 5% of the overall damage of Steel Tornado buffed by major brutality. More than steel tornado when using cheap potions, I've never seen much point in burning through crafted potions while fighting trash mobs.
  • boombazookajd
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    I'm still leveling my baby night blade and currently I've made the switch from dw to 2h. I replaced Rending with Brawler for the damage shield as I have a tendency to pull a lot of trash while in Spellscar for instance, and that damage shield is great.

    -Heavy attacks do take a long time but not much more, if at all, than inferno heavy attacks.

    -my leveling rotation is Endless Hail->crit charge->brawler->Surprise Attack x3->killers blade. Typically this kills most everything. When I get to a boss, it's Endless hail->soul siphon->brawler->surprise attack x3->restart

    None of this matters until I get him to 50. Then I need to gear him out and then I can work on the build.

    At the very least, I'll have a DW and 2H option, switching to DW for single target and low add boss fights.

    Ultimately, I want the build to be able to hit for at least 30k. If it can do that, I will be satisfied with it.
    Drathus Delenu- Dunmer magDk: Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Stormproof, Peak Scaler, Clockwork Confounder, Orderly, Master Wizard, Cloudrest Hero, Undaunted, Dragonstar Arena Champion
    Thoronir Rolston- Breton petsorc: Stormproof
    Zaakazha-Redguard stamblade: Boethia's Scythe, Clockwork Confounder, Maelstrom Arena Champion, Dragonstar Arena Champion

    Scrubs:
    Justinius Maximus Decimus- Altmer magblade
    Agronak gro'Mashul- Orc DK Tank
    Valerya Hawkcroft- Breton healer
    Zaaka- Imperial stamDK/crafter

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    XB1 NA
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    I run a two-hander build. A no pot build.


    Evil hunter- rally- reverse slice- brawler- suprize attack- soul harvest

    Leaching strikes- clatrops- relentless focus- hail- poison injection- flawless dawnbreaker.

    If you ran pots, you could front bar relentless and back bar trap. I still get 30k+ dps with what I got though. And way more survivability then anything I got with dual wield. Rally + brawler is amazing.
    Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on October 10, 2018 1:41AM
  • boombazookajd
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    I run a two-hander build. A no pot build.


    Evil hunter- rally- reverse slice- brawler- suprize attack- soul harvest

    Leaching strikes- clatrops- relentless focus- hail- poison injection- flawless dawnbreaker.

    If you ran pots, you could front bar relentless and back bar trap. I still get 30k+ dps with what I got though. And way more survivability then anything I got with dual wield. Rally + brawler is amazing.

    That's really interesting. Evil Hunter is essentially the stam version of Inner Light. Is there anything to be gained by utilizing Executioner over Reverse Slice? I.e. Brawler is already great for trash mobs, executioner seems well suited for single target.

    Do you feel that single target is a weak point of 2h? I know DW is incredibly strong on single target, and for the toughest of fights I am prepared and willing to go DW.

    Also, why executioner and not killers blade? Does the increased damage starting at 50% outweigh the lower cost of Killers Blade?

    I love the build @Lightspeedflashb14_ESO!
    Drathus Delenu- Dunmer magDk: Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Stormproof, Peak Scaler, Clockwork Confounder, Orderly, Master Wizard, Cloudrest Hero, Undaunted, Dragonstar Arena Champion
    Thoronir Rolston- Breton petsorc: Stormproof
    Zaakazha-Redguard stamblade: Boethia's Scythe, Clockwork Confounder, Maelstrom Arena Champion, Dragonstar Arena Champion

    Scrubs:
    Justinius Maximus Decimus- Altmer magblade
    Agronak gro'Mashul- Orc DK Tank
    Valerya Hawkcroft- Breton healer
    Zaaka- Imperial stamDK/crafter

    _________________
    XB1 NA
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    . Is there anything to be gained by utilizing Executioner over Reverse Slice?

    It gives you an AOE spammable. Something that is needed in all pve builds, as far as I am concerned. The extra 50% on the main target is not even close to the dps you gain in AOE fights, targets take unmitigated damage from the AOE AND it can crit. I use reverse slice on all my two-hander builds except for stamplars, jabs is good enough in AOE.
    Brawler is already great for trash mobs, executioner seems well suited for single target.

    Brawlers dot does not tick if you spam it, you are losing damage, evening if you go brawler-reverse slice- brawler, to maintain the shield, you still get the extra AOE from reverse slice and the tick of the dot from brawler. Plus reverse slice is a 360° AOE and brawler is a cone.
    Do you feel that single target is a weak point of 2h?

    I mean, yes, blood craze is a better single target dot then brawler but unless you are in the top 5% of the game, you will not feel a difference in AOE vs single target with two hander vs dual wield.
    .Also, why executioner and not killers blade? Does the increased damage starting at 50% outweigh the lower cost of Killers Blade?

    I use reverse slice for the AOE, something you don't get from killers blade, and an execute. 2 purpose in one skill. So with trash mobs, lay down hail and Caltrops, then brawler, then spam reverse slice on them. Drop so much faster. On boss fights, don't use reverse slice till ~25-30%, suprize attack will out damage it till then.

    Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on October 11, 2018 2:59AM
  • idk
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    I suggest taking what works 2H wise from a good solid PvE 2H build and work it with what you have class wise.

    One of the best 2H PvE players in the game has one or two builds posted on his site. None for NB but you can take his 2H sorc build and work it into his NB build and see how it works.

    Here is Alcasts Sorc 2Hander and from there you can find his stamNB build. Good source as he offers several set suggestions and more.

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-sorcerer-2h-build-pve/
  • Jaraal
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    I run a 2h NB build that can solo most vet dungeons, but am leery of posting my build because of class envying QQ cryers and ZOS’ penchant for nerfing anything that actually works well. But it can be done, just experiment until you hit that sweet spot.
  • Mister_DMC
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    Reverse slice scales better than killers blade and hits more targets. No reason to to use executioner in my mind. Power extraction is also very handy when mobbing large groups as well as a source of major brutality if you don't want to use rally.

    I would use brawler if I were using a master 2h (which I do and is super fun) if not then probably power extraction as an aoe spammable.
  • Colecovision
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    I run a 2h NB build that can solo most vet dungeons, but am leery of posting my build because of class envying QQ cryers and ZOS’ penchant for nerfing anything that actually works well. But it can be done, just experiment until you hit that sweet spot.

    Pvers won't cry about a stamina solo vet dungeon build. If anything, they'll boot you for showing up with it. Please post! Gear, skill bars and basic rotations. I'm trying to get over a wall and would love to give it a shot. My dw bow vampire Khajiit stamblade can do only a couple vet dungeons.

    I dont have any trials gear. I think that gets in the way. Yeah, it's the gears fault...
  • DoonerSeraph
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    I dont think you will have that much problems with sustain as long as you get killing blows, Battle Rush is a nice passive. I would also use Reverse Slice, the AoE execute is kinda nice (if it applies to every target, the wording looks like thats the case)
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    I dont think you will have that much problems with sustain as long as you get killing blows, Battle Rush is a nice passive. I would also use Reverse Slice, the AoE execute is kinda nice (if it applies to every target, the wording looks like thats the case)

    Every target around you, in a 5 meters radius, takes 65% of the damage you did to the main one. Unmitigated. And it can crit. So the more damage you do to the main target, the more you do to the ones around you. Regardless of the non main targets health. The aoe also does not have a target cap. One of the best skill changes they made.
  • RavenSworn
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    For solo pve, rally is a better tool than power extraction. In groups however, power extraction wins hands down since you do have a healer.

    Brawler doesn't mesh well with other builds unless you are into solo pve. In a group, Carve is better since the Heroism buff ties in well with nb pots and that means more incap spam or at least a quick dawn breaker on mobs. The Brawler shield also does not do well in a single target boss fight.

    I'd also argue that evil hunter is great when you fight with a pet sorc in group as a the atro will give you a berserk synergy but Mark gives you berserk upon mob death and will help loads against mobs.

    All in all, the nb is such a versatile class. I've had instances when I solo world bosses in craglorn just with dark cloak, rally and Killers blade for sustain.
    Ingame: RavenSworn, Pc / NA.


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  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    .For solo pve, rally is a better tool than power extraction. In groups however, power extraction wins hands down since you do have a healer.

    I would argue that even in group pve, rally is a better source of major brutality, unless you really trust your healer, which most people do not have the luxury of. Especially with the how good reverse slice is in trash mobs, you just do not need to have power extraction. Power extraction is great when you use dual wield though, steel tornado does not give major brutality and hidden daggers only hits 3 targets.

    Brawler doesn't mesh well with other builds unless you are into solo pve. In a group, Carve is better since the Heroism buff ties in well with nb pots and that means more incap spam or at least a quick dawn breaker on mobs. The Brawler shield also does not do well in a single target boss fight.

    I really think you are underselling brawlers shield, with my nb, it is a 3k base shield without hitting anything, that is a 6k shield even in a boss fight, that is invaluable, a lot of the time in boss fights, when I check the damage I have taken in combat metrics, brawler has aborbed 30-50% of the damage the boss has put out. Meaning the healer has that much less healing they need to throw my way. This is more then worth the extra .66 a second ulti regen.

    Also, pve DPS nightblades definitely should not be using incap, even stamblades, soul harvest is op in pve, 10 ulti on kill is huge. Since ultis scale on highest stats, you really are not lossing much damage, if you do actually use the ulti, which you ought to only be using if you are on a boss fight and the boss will die before you have enough ulti for DB or ballista.

    I'd also argue that evil hunter is great when you fight with a pet sorc in group as a the atro will give you a berserk synergy but Mark gives you berserk upon mob death and will help loads against mobs.

    I am going to assume that you meant "not great" in this paragraph. With that in mind, the only reason I have that on my bar is, since I am cheap, I do not run pots for major savagery. If I did, as I said, I would have front bar relentless and back bar trap. This would be a considerable DPS increase, though I am fine with the ~30k I get. Better then 87% of the DPS I run into in the group finder.

    Though, reading it again, you might have actually meant the skill was great. It is not. Both morph are junk, evil hunter is a cost reduction of your fighter guild ablitys, which I don't use any besides trap, sometimes, and camouflage hunter gives you minor berzerk, like nightblades already get from grim focus, when attacking from steath and only then if you crit, making that morph completely worthtlsss on a nightblade bar. Really the only reason to have hunter at all on your bar in pve is for the major savagery and the extra 3% weapon damage from the passive. Also the only reason I even morph it is because hate having unmorphed skills on my bar.

    Reapers mark is theoretically a good skill too, the problem with the skill in pve on a stamblade, in trash fights, where stuff is dieing fast enough to have that 25% extra damage that only last for 5 seconds up any considerable amount of time, things already diefast enough and in boss fights, you will not be able to proc the major berzerk reliably.
    . All in all, the nb is such a versatile class. I've had instances when I solo world bosses in craglorn just with dark cloak, rally and Killers blade for sustain.

    Soloing overland stuff is easy. Not really worth stating.
    Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on October 12, 2018 6:51AM
  • Jaraal
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    I dont think you will have that much problems with sustain as long as you get killing blows, Battle Rush is a nice passive. I would also use Reverse Slice, the AoE execute is kinda nice (if it applies to every target, the wording looks like thats the case)

    Or you can run the werewolf ulti for the continuous 15% extra stam regen. It's also nice to be able to pop WW when needed to access the 60-65% (or more, depending on CP heal perks) heal in emergencies.... assuming you don't have Dark Cloak. You can drop back out of WW form at any time by toggling the ulti button again.

    Also, if you don't want to slot a Major Brutality skill, use Dreugh King Slayer for perma MB. You can run the set 2 hander and jewelry if you insist on wearing medium gear for damage. And you can slot Evil Hunter for the Major Savagery buff.
  • DoonerSeraph
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    I dont think you will have that much problems with sustain as long as you get killing blows, Battle Rush is a nice passive. I would also use Reverse Slice, the AoE execute is kinda nice (if it applies to every target, the wording looks like thats the case)

    Every target around you, in a 5 meters radius, takes 65% of the damage you did to the main one. Unmitigated. And it can crit. So the more damage you do to the main target, the more you do to the ones around you. Regardless of the non main targets health. The aoe also does not have a target cap. One of the best skill changes they made.

    Yeah, I thought so. Thanks for the confirmation 😄
  • boombazookajd
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    .For solo pve, rally is a better tool than power extraction. In groups however, power extraction wins hands down since you do have a healer.

    I would argue that even in group pve, rally is a better source of major brutality, unless you really trust your healer, which most people do not have the luxury of. Especially with the how good reverse slice is in trash mobs, you just do not need to have power extraction. Power extraction is great when you use dual wield though, steel tornado does not give major brutality and hidden daggers only hits 3 targets.

    Brawler doesn't mesh well with other builds unless you are into solo pve. In a group, Carve is better since the Heroism buff ties in well with nb pots and that means more incap spam or at least a quick dawn breaker on mobs. The Brawler shield also does not do well in a single target boss fight.

    I really think you are underselling brawlers shield, with my nb, it is a 3k base shield without hitting anything, that is a 6k shield even in a boss fight, that is invaluable, a lot of the time in boss fights, when I check the damage I have taken in combat metrics, brawler has aborbed 30-50% of the damage the boss has put out. Meaning the healer has that much less healing they need to throw my way. This is more then worth the extra .66 a second ulti regen.

    Also, pve DPS nightblades definitely should not be using incap, even stamblades, soul harvest is op in pve, 10 ulti on kill is huge. Since ultis scale on highest stats, you really are not lossing much damage, if you do actually use the ulti, which you ought to only be using if you are on a boss fight and the boss will die before you have enough ulti for DB or ballista.

    I'd also argue that evil hunter is great when you fight with a pet sorc in group as a the atro will give you a berserk synergy but Mark gives you berserk upon mob death and will help loads against mobs.

    I am going to assume that you meant "not great" in this paragraph. With that in mind, the only reason I have that on my bar is, since I am cheap, I do not run pots for major savagery. If I did, as I said, I would have front bar relentless and back bar trap. This would be a considerable DPS increase, though I am fine with the ~30k I get. Better then 87% of the DPS I run into in the group finder.

    Though, reading it again, you might have actually meant the skill was great. It is not. Both morph are junk, evil hunter is a cost reduction of your fighter guild ablitys, which I don't use any besides trap, sometimes, and camouflage hunter gives you minor berzerk, like nightblades already get from grim focus, when attacking from steath and only then if you crit, making that morph completely worthtlsss on a nightblade bar. Really the only reason to have hunter at all on your bar in pve is for the major savagery and the extra 3% weapon damage from the passive. Also the only reason I even morph it is because hate having unmorphed skills on my bar.

    Reapers mark is theoretically a good skill too, the problem with the skill in pve on a stamblade, in trash fights, where stuff is dieing fast enough to have that 25% extra damage that only last for 5 seconds up any considerable amount of time, things already diefast enough and in boss fights, you will not be able to proc the major berzerk reliably.
    . All in all, the nb is such a versatile class. I've had instances when I solo world bosses in craglorn just with dark cloak, rally and Killers blade for sustain.

    Soloing overland stuff is easy. Not really worth stating.

    That's really awesome information. I'll probably stick with trap back bar. Have you experimented with using Imbue Weapon at all? @Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

    I've started using reverse slice instead of killers blade. Definitely worth using.
    Drathus Delenu- Dunmer magDk: Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Stormproof, Peak Scaler, Clockwork Confounder, Orderly, Master Wizard, Cloudrest Hero, Undaunted, Dragonstar Arena Champion
    Thoronir Rolston- Breton petsorc: Stormproof
    Zaakazha-Redguard stamblade: Boethia's Scythe, Clockwork Confounder, Maelstrom Arena Champion, Dragonstar Arena Champion

    Scrubs:
    Justinius Maximus Decimus- Altmer magblade
    Agronak gro'Mashul- Orc DK Tank
    Valerya Hawkcroft- Breton healer
    Zaaka- Imperial stamDK/crafter

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    XB1 NA
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    . That's really awesome information. I'll probably stick with trap back bar. Have you experimented with using Imbue Weapon at all? @Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

    I can't weave light attacks reliably at all. I have tried to use elemental weapon on my magblade but had little success. Suprize attack is such a great spammable though, not sure why you would want to use anything else, the healing you get from crushing weapon is not really worth much, at least when you are running rally, compared to suprize attack, 3% more health, major fracture and you get the major resist buffs when you use it. Much more valuable me.
  • RavenSworn
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    .For solo pve, rally is a better tool than power extraction. In groups however, power extraction wins hands down since you do have a healer.

    I would argue that even in group pve, rally is a better source of major brutality, unless you really trust your healer, which most people do not have the luxury of. Especially with the how good reverse slice is in trash mobs, you just do not need to have power extraction. Power extraction is great when you use dual wield though, steel tornado does not give major brutality and hidden daggers only hits 3 targets.

    Brawler doesn't mesh well with other builds unless you are into solo pve. In a group, Carve is better since the Heroism buff ties in well with nb pots and that means more incap spam or at least a quick dawn breaker on mobs. The Brawler shield also does not do well in a single target boss fight.

    I really think you are underselling brawlers shield, with my nb, it is a 3k base shield without hitting anything, that is a 6k shield even in a boss fight, that is invaluable, a lot of the time in boss fights, when I check the damage I have taken in combat metrics, brawler has aborbed 30-50% of the damage the boss has put out. Meaning the healer has that much less healing they need to throw my way. This is more then worth the extra .66 a second ulti regen.

    Also, pve DPS nightblades definitely should not be using incap, even stamblades, soul harvest is op in pve, 10 ulti on kill is huge. Since ultis scale on highest stats, you really are not lossing much damage, if you do actually use the ulti, which you ought to only be using if you are on a boss fight and the boss will die before you have enough ulti for DB or ballista.

    I'd also argue that evil hunter is great when you fight with a pet sorc in group as a the atro will give you a berserk synergy but Mark gives you berserk upon mob death and will help loads against mobs.

    I am going to assume that you meant "not great" in this paragraph. With that in mind, the only reason I have that on my bar is, since I am cheap, I do not run pots for major savagery. If I did, as I said, I would have front bar relentless and back bar trap. This would be a considerable DPS increase, though I am fine with the ~30k I get. Better then 87% of the DPS I run into in the group finder.

    Though, reading it again, you might have actually meant the skill was great. It is not. Both morph are junk, evil hunter is a cost reduction of your fighter guild ablitys, which I don't use any besides trap, sometimes, and camouflage hunter gives you minor berzerk, like nightblades already get from grim focus, when attacking from steath and only then if you crit, making that morph completely worthtlsss on a nightblade bar. Really the only reason to have hunter at all on your bar in pve is for the major savagery and the extra 3% weapon damage from the passive. Also the only reason I even morph it is because hate having unmorphed skills on my bar.

    Reapers mark is theoretically a good skill too, the problem with the skill in pve on a stamblade, in trash fights, where stuff is dieing fast enough to have that 25% extra damage that only last for 5 seconds up any considerable amount of time, things already diefast enough and in boss fights, you will not be able to proc the major berzerk reliably.
    . All in all, the nb is such a versatile class. I've had instances when I solo world bosses in craglorn just with dark cloak, rally and Killers blade for sustain.

    Soloing overland stuff is easy. Not really worth stating.

    I state overland solo because not all players can solo world bosses. It is slightly tougher than your usual public dungeon bosses (for the most part) and I really don't know how well op plays.

    The thing is, there are options. I personally like Carve with rally, since Killers blade and reapers mark will give me sustain. But Brawler is great too, don't get me wrong! I just find that an ability that does aoe damage much better than shrouded daggers and gives major brutality to be of an option for a two hander Stam blade. Also, activating that ability gives you ultimate, tieing in with Carve.

    Not too sure about incap, I find it really useful against bosses with the vulnerability debuff it does on a target. I like soul harvest, but since it does magic damage, I think magicka nb would benefit it more because of cp.

    Reapers mark is a... Beach to put it on though, that one I totally get you. I'm cheap too lol so evil hunter is a much better option for me too, it's just that not having that extra critical amount is no biggie for me.

    For me, as long as the job gets done one way or another.
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  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    The thing is, there are options. I personally like Carve with rally, since Killers blade and reapers mark will give me sustain.

    Not really sure what this sustain you speak about is. Maybe you mean the Executioner passive, which is "When an enemy dies within 2 seconds of being damaged by one of your Assassination abilities, you restore 1876 Magicka or Stamina, whichever maximum is higher." This is almost nothing. Especially on boss fights where there are no adds. Too specific of a proc and when it does, 1900 Stam is like one skill.
    .But Brawler is great too, don't get me wrong! I just find that an ability that does aoe damage much better than shrouded daggers and gives major brutality to be of an option for a two hander Stam blade. Also, activating that ability gives you ultimate, tieing in with Carve.

    I already stated that the skill is great on dual wield builds but on a 2 hander, it is redundant when you have reverse slice. Reverse slice is like having power extraction and killers blade in one. You get the same ulti gain from using leeching strikes too, though if you use power extraction, you would proc it more, I grant you that.

    I am telling you, carve is the weaker of the 2 morphs, the survivability you get from brawler is simply unmatched. .66 ulti gain is great for tanks, via heroic slash but on a dps, that is nothing.

    . Not too sure about incap, I find it really useful against bosses with the vulnerability debuff it does on a target. I like soul harvest, but since it does magic damage, I think magicka nb would benefit it more because of cp.

    As I said, in pve, nightblade DPS, soul harvest is the superior morph. The ulti gain in trash is crazy. You are right again about cp, it would use the magic ones to scale, also spell pen but you are not using the ulti for actual damage. You are using it for the ulti gen and you are aware that both morphs have the extra 20% damage taken by you for 6 seconds right? It is not unique to incap. Again though, the only reason you ought to be using this ulti, instead of ballista or DB is that the boss will die before you have enough ulti for either of them.
    Reapers mark is a... Beach to put it on though, that one I totally get you. I'm cheap too lol so evil hunter is a much better option for me too, it's just that not having that extra critical amount is no biggie for me.

    10% crit is a 5-7% DPS increase. Depending on your cp. If that is no biggie to you, I can understand some of your comments.
    . For me, as long as the job gets done one way or another.

    It depends on what you mean by "the job".
  • Strider__Roshin
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    With the changes to Power Extraction I'm thinking PE + Reverse Slice is going to be phenomenal to add clearing. 2H is still going to suck for single target though; which in my opinion doesn't necessarily need to be as good as DW, but much better than it currently is.
  • Jaraal
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    What I'm concerned over is the cost of cleave compared to rending slashes, at 3240 its a hefty price for a skill that doesn't have a strong bleed dot that rending slashes does.

    This is my tooltip, and I'm nowhere near max CP and using mostly purple gear. Also, I have zero points into stamina:

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    Pretty significant bleed damage, IMO. And almost a 10k damage shield if you smack 5 mobs? I'd say it's a very worthwhile skill. And that's without a Titanic Cleave weapon, which would add 1500 dmg per mob, up to 9k.


    Edited by Jaraal on October 13, 2018 9:02PM
  • boombazookajd
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    This has been great so far, great info! I will be working on getting the Masters and Asylum 2h swords. Right now I'm about to level 50 with this character and I still need to do some work on various skills/morphs.
    Drathus Delenu- Dunmer magDk: Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Stormproof, Peak Scaler, Clockwork Confounder, Orderly, Master Wizard, Cloudrest Hero, Undaunted, Dragonstar Arena Champion
    Thoronir Rolston- Breton petsorc: Stormproof
    Zaakazha-Redguard stamblade: Boethia's Scythe, Clockwork Confounder, Maelstrom Arena Champion, Dragonstar Arena Champion

    Scrubs:
    Justinius Maximus Decimus- Altmer magblade
    Agronak gro'Mashul- Orc DK Tank
    Valerya Hawkcroft- Breton healer
    Zaaka- Imperial stamDK/crafter

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    XB1 NA
  • Jaraal
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    This has been great so far, great info! I will be working on getting the Masters and Asylum 2h swords. Right now I'm about to level 50 with this character and I still need to do some work on various skills/morphs.

    Also, if you use a battle axe instead of a greatsword, with Heavy Weapons passive maxed you have a 16% chance to apply an additional bleed that stacks with Carve / Cleave / Brawler for 8k to the primary target, which makes the axe better than the sword for single target fights. And your points into the CP Thaumaturge will increase the damage of all bleeds, and there are armor sets that can proc bleeds or increase the damage of your bleeds as well.
  • Nevasca
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    5x War Machine
    3x Agility
    2x Veli (2x Stormfist for sustain)
    1x vMA Bow
    1x Asylum 2H

    Your Soul Harvest/Incap will buff Reverse Slice's splash damage. Same thing for Forceful passive. This synergy allows you to deal a lot of AoE damage. Combining Asylum with Soul Harvest makes your uptime on Major Slayer quite high. Really fun build. Probably won't be able to sustain on Blue Food though, since Reverse Slice costs a lot. This build focuses on the strength of 2H, AoE damage. Excelent for trash fights, meh in single target, but you can get away with it if you really want to.
  • boombazookajd
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    5x War Machine
    3x Agility
    2x Veli (2x Stormfist for sustain)
    1x vMA Bow
    1x Asylum 2H

    Your Soul Harvest/Incap will buff Reverse Slice's splash damage. Same thing for Forceful passive. This synergy allows you to deal a lot of AoE damage. Combining Asylum with Soul Harvest makes your uptime on Major Slayer quite high. Really fun build. Probably won't be able to sustain on Blue Food though, since Reverse Slice costs a lot. This build focuses on the strength of 2H, AoE damage. Excelent for trash fights, meh in single target, but you can get away with it if you really want to.

    Currently running:

    5x VO
    4x Hundings
    2x Velidreth
    1x MA bow
    Drathus Delenu- Dunmer magDk: Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Stormproof, Peak Scaler, Clockwork Confounder, Orderly, Master Wizard, Cloudrest Hero, Undaunted, Dragonstar Arena Champion
    Thoronir Rolston- Breton petsorc: Stormproof
    Zaakazha-Redguard stamblade: Boethia's Scythe, Clockwork Confounder, Maelstrom Arena Champion, Dragonstar Arena Champion

    Scrubs:
    Justinius Maximus Decimus- Altmer magblade
    Agronak gro'Mashul- Orc DK Tank
    Valerya Hawkcroft- Breton healer
    Zaaka- Imperial stamDK/crafter

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    XB1 NA
  • NightAngel690
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    This is going to trigger a llooooot of people but the good things about nbs in you can bring a pvp toon into pve and still do a decent amount of dps! My heavy 2h build hits 25-27k dps which is good enough for most dungeons and a few of the easier trials. That's 25k dps w/o using any DOTs besides poison injection and a poison on my front bar. i imagine if i had caltrops and endless hail, i could probably get it too 30k easily. I only run dungeons with my pvp guild but i imagine people wouldn't be very happy seeing a 2h in a vet Dungeon or trial. XD
    My set up:
    5 hundings,
    5 bone pirate
    master bow.
  • boombazookajd
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    This is going to trigger a llooooot of people but the good things about nbs in you can bring a pvp toon into pve and still do a decent amount of dps! My heavy 2h build hits 25-27k dps which is good enough for most dungeons and a few of the easier trials. That's 25k dps w/o using any DOTs besides poison injection and a poison on my front bar. i imagine if i had caltrops and endless hail, i could probably get it too 30k easily. I only run dungeons with my pvp guild but i imagine people wouldn't be very happy seeing a 2h in a vet Dungeon or trial. XD
    My set up:
    5 hundings,
    5 bone pirate
    master bow.

    Long as you are doing your job and we're getting through the content, I personally don't complain. If you are going through some sort of rotation, I won't complain.

    It's really the light attack spam that draws my ire.
    Drathus Delenu- Dunmer magDk: Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Stormproof, Peak Scaler, Clockwork Confounder, Orderly, Master Wizard, Cloudrest Hero, Undaunted, Dragonstar Arena Champion
    Thoronir Rolston- Breton petsorc: Stormproof
    Zaakazha-Redguard stamblade: Boethia's Scythe, Clockwork Confounder, Maelstrom Arena Champion, Dragonstar Arena Champion

    Scrubs:
    Justinius Maximus Decimus- Altmer magblade
    Agronak gro'Mashul- Orc DK Tank
    Valerya Hawkcroft- Breton healer
    Zaaka- Imperial stamDK/crafter

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    XB1 NA
  • Mister_DMC
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    What about onslaught, balorgh, warmachine, VO or TFS. That's what I'd use
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