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MagSorc - Murkmire Build
MalagenR
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Hey Fellow Sorc's,
I recommend you do the following for Murkmire:
Front Bar - Sload (Lightning/Inferno) - Infused - Mag Absorb - Skills: Streak - Fury - Frags - Annulment - Radiant (Keep NB's out of stealth for DOT ticks) - Overload
Backbar - Overwhelming (Resto Staff) - Infused - Stam Absorb - Skills: - Bound Armor (pop when NB's open and hold Block for 3 seconds) - Regeneration - Hardened - Restraining Prison - Mines - Overload
Monster Mask - Valkyn Skoria - Stay on the backbar for survivability until you're ready to open up, essentially you'll switch to front bar to pop radiant and hardened, which will eventually light up frags, once frags is lit up you'll heavy attack on backbar until Valkyn Proc's, animation cancel into Streak / Frag / Fury - the proc sets should help with pressure
2 PC - Willpower if you can on the jewelry for more Max Mag
Enchants - Max HP (Armor) Stam Recovery Jewelry - Figure out the math for big shields + big hp, need stam recovery for blocking
Food - Max HP / Max Mag[/b]
Armor Trait - Sturdy/Impenetrable - You're going to be doing a lot of block casting, you'll need to reduce the cost of block significantly and you'll need impen to beef up shields, you won't be doing a lot of roll dodging anymore when someone gets on you, block till you can streak away and reposition with mines, prison, and start heavy attacking wih resto staff - the major vitality beefs from resto staff traits and restraining should give you
Most of your pressure is coming from Proc Sets - so Max Mag doesn't mean *** besides getting your shields up to par with your HP - Max HP enchants are going to make you super beefy with strong heals from Resto back bar due to heavy attack passives and the need to heavy attack to proc Valkyn. Valkyn Proc's are what set off your burst combo - though you can switch once Overwhelming Proc's if necessary. Hardened is on the back bar with Bound and if you want to switch Mines for Boundless you can - I prefer multiple roots for dodge rollers but Boundless will make you even tankier, potentially allowing for more heavy attacks and less turtle when pvping. Hardened is on the back bar to Proc Overwhelming and allow you to cast your strongest shield while block casting.
Have fun getting hate mail in Murkmire and make sure you always blame the Dev's for your use of proc sets.
I recommend you do the following for Murkmire:
Front Bar - Sload (Lightning/Inferno) - Infused - Mag Absorb - Skills: Streak - Fury - Frags - Annulment - Radiant (Keep NB's out of stealth for DOT ticks) - Overload
Backbar - Overwhelming (Resto Staff) - Infused - Stam Absorb - Skills: - Bound Armor (pop when NB's open and hold Block for 3 seconds) - Regeneration - Hardened - Restraining Prison - Mines - Overload
Monster Mask - Valkyn Skoria - Stay on the backbar for survivability until you're ready to open up, essentially you'll switch to front bar to pop radiant and hardened, which will eventually light up frags, once frags is lit up you'll heavy attack on backbar until Valkyn Proc's, animation cancel into Streak / Frag / Fury - the proc sets should help with pressure
2 PC - Willpower if you can on the jewelry for more Max Mag
Enchants - Max HP (Armor) Stam Recovery Jewelry - Figure out the math for big shields + big hp, need stam recovery for blocking
Food - Max HP / Max Mag[/b]
Armor Trait - Sturdy/Impenetrable - You're going to be doing a lot of block casting, you'll need to reduce the cost of block significantly and you'll need impen to beef up shields, you won't be doing a lot of roll dodging anymore when someone gets on you, block till you can streak away and reposition with mines, prison, and start heavy attacking wih resto staff - the major vitality beefs from resto staff traits and restraining should give you
Most of your pressure is coming from Proc Sets - so Max Mag doesn't mean *** besides getting your shields up to par with your HP - Max HP enchants are going to make you super beefy with strong heals from Resto back bar due to heavy attack passives and the need to heavy attack to proc Valkyn. Valkyn Proc's are what set off your burst combo - though you can switch once Overwhelming Proc's if necessary. Hardened is on the back bar with Bound and if you want to switch Mines for Boundless you can - I prefer multiple roots for dodge rollers but Boundless will make you even tankier, potentially allowing for more heavy attacks and less turtle when pvping. Hardened is on the back bar to Proc Overwhelming and allow you to cast your strongest shield while block casting.
Have fun getting hate mail in Murkmire and make sure you always blame the Dev's for your use of proc sets.
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MalagenR✭✭✭✭✭Note - you can use Prismatic enchants if you want - but I'd still put max HP on Head, Legs, and Chest. I'd also consider Tri-Stat Food.Edited by MalagenR on October 11, 2018 2:36PM0
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MalagenR✭✭✭✭✭Edit to top post - I'm at work going to fast - but swap out Annulment for Hardened when I discuss switching from back bar to front bar for frag procs.0
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MalagenR✭✭✭✭✭As a side note - Sorc needs to adjust their playstyle in the coming patch. You can't really play super active defense with long complicated burst combo's - you need to heavy a more control heavy playstyle (streak, mines, restraining) and then flip to Frags/Wrath on Proc sets - you gotta use Proc sets, no point playing MagSorc without them now, we just don't have enough single target pressure.1
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GrigorijMalahevich✭✭✭✭✭you plan to heal from regeneration? Bad build buddy, very bad build.PC/EU 800 CP.
PvP MagSorc.Pedro Gonzales - Mag Sorc EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/CB6j6
Valera Progib - Stam Sorc DC vMA Flawless Conqueror clear https://i.imgur.com/eYgpXG2.png
Valera Pozhar - Mag DK EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/jrsuK
Valera Podlechi - Mag Templar AD vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/N0BYq1 -
MalagenR✭✭✭✭✭Valera Progib wrote: »you plan to heal from regeneration? Bad build buddy, very bad build.
Heavy Attack + Regeneration while being shielded. Restraining gives you 30% increase to healing received and Heavy Attack Resto gives you Major Mending
Many Sorcs have already been running regeneration on Live. It's actually better than Healing Ward if you have good enough magic recovery and skill to get hardened recast before it drops to your hp bar.
You'll have significantly more time to heal yourself in Murkmire because you will have tons of HP.0 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I've been toying with the idea of farming Pariah and running weapons and jewelry of that. But leaving the max health bonus on the jewelry and running spell damage enchants. Combined with Bright Throat or Shacklebreaker light armor.
With Pariah, your healing ward shield is going to be incredibly strong at low health. And the other shields will also be stronger with low health.0 -
GrigorijMalahevich✭✭✭✭✭No spammable, no burst heal, no hard cc, no sustain (resto heavy attacks, gl with that)
Valkyn skoria - you have no skills to proc it... Blood spawn would be a lot better, since its proc would benefit shieldsPC/EU 800 CP.
PvP MagSorc.Pedro Gonzales - Mag Sorc EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/CB6j6
Valera Progib - Stam Sorc DC vMA Flawless Conqueror clear https://i.imgur.com/eYgpXG2.png
Valera Pozhar - Mag DK EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/jrsuK
Valera Podlechi - Mag Templar AD vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/N0BYq2 -
Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I've found with my experimenting, that there's not that much needs to specced into health.. I mean by the time you take into account all the max mag lost to get all this other defensive stuff without losing sustain, I just keep on finding my hardened is around the 50% mark anyway.Minalan owes me a beer.
PC EU Megaserver
Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
Aidee - Magsorc - DC
Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.0 -
usmguy1234✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've been toying with the idea of farming Pariah and running weapons and jewelry of that. But leaving the max health bonus on the jewelry and running spell damage enchants. Combined with Bright Throat or Shacklebreaker light armor.
With Pariah, your healing ward shield is going to be incredibly strong at low health. And the other shields will also be stronger with low health.
You could also run a 5/2 setup with that. Pariah chest, legs, weapons and one healthy jewel. The rest light. Bright throat will probably be best. Match that with bloodspawn and you'll be one tanky mfer with a nice magpool and regen and decent health.
That being said I'm probably going with bloodspawn, heavy shackle and bright throat.Edited by usmguy1234 on October 11, 2018 3:37PMZaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
Soul Razor- Altmer Magsorc
Les Drago- Redguard Stamdk
Eirius- Altmer Magdk
Stormifeth- Altmer Magplar
Disclaimer: My comments are a little sarcasm mixed with truth. If you can't handle that don't respond to me.0 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭usmguy1234 wrote: »I've been toying with the idea of farming Pariah and running weapons and jewelry of that. But leaving the max health bonus on the jewelry and running spell damage enchants. Combined with Bright Throat or Shacklebreaker light armor.
With Pariah, your healing ward shield is going to be incredibly strong at low health. And the other shields will also be stronger with low health.
You could also run a 5/2 setup with that. Pariah chest, legs, weapons and one healthy jewel. The rest light. Bright throat will probably be best. Match that with bloodspawn and you'll be one tanky mfer with a nice magpool and regen and decent health.
That being said I'm probably going with bloodspawn, heavy shackle and bright throat.
I do like the idea of bloodspawn with that. The stam regen from it will help make up for needing to run witchmothers with Bright Throat and losing the extra stam from tri-stat food. Plus, I have never found a monster set I like to run with Sorc yet. Balorgh is probably the best, especially with a tankier build. But I still can't get a shoulder to drop from a chest lol. And Skoria has a low proc rate on sorc.0 -
MalagenR✭✭✭✭✭Valera Progib wrote: »No spammable, no burst heal, no hard cc, no sustain (resto heavy attacks, gl with that)
Valkyn skoria - you have no skills to proc it... Blood spawn would be a lot better, since its proc would benefit shields
Overwhelming, Sload, & Resto heavy attacks proc Skoria.2 -
MalagenR✭✭✭✭✭I've been toying with the idea of farming Pariah and running weapons and jewelry of that. But leaving the max health bonus on the jewelry and running spell damage enchants. Combined with Bright Throat or Shacklebreaker light armor.
With Pariah, your healing ward shield is going to be incredibly strong at low health. And the other shields will also be stronger with low health.
That's a really nice idea and get's away from Regeneration for those people who prefer shields. I'm trying to duck away from shields.
If you're running 3 proc sets you don't need a spammable, you're more or less controlling the fight looking for an opportunity to burst when frags proc's on the front bar.
Also, you're running OL, this means you're able to stay on the Resto bar with Overload up which has cleaner animations than a Destro staff (don' ask me why, but test it yourself) so you can throw light attacks out when you want to apply pressure with a spammable when you're trying to put out pressure because proc sets are on CD.
Edited by MalagenR on October 11, 2018 4:06PM0 -
Kikke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭To feel the need of old proc sets in the upcoming DLC is understandable, But I'm here to say that you need to worry no more!
The new DLC, as well as destroying sorcs, adds a few sets that be used in interesting ways.
So what I have tested on PTS and will adapt over to live is this:
Bright-Throat’s Boast (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Max Magicka
4: Magicka Recovery
5: While you have a drink buff active, your Max Magicka is increased by 2000 and Magicka Recovery 150.
This will be the main body set, full impen with prismatic enchants on big and magica on small (can do full prismatic)
And I will combine this with dubious cameron buff drink, this will net me a nice amount of mag / stam + recovery
Along with this I'll use two secondary sets for different situations, First for group play (small scale cyro) I will use Vicious death. A truly godly set when fighting outnumbered.
For Solo play, BGs, and more random play I will use Spell Strategist, as this set adds a really nice amount of spell dmg on a easy condition, as it fits perfectly for the sorcs single target burst.
Spell Strategist (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Spell Damage
4: Spell Damage
5: When you deal damage with a Light Attack, you place a mark over your target for 5 seconds, granting you 500 Spell Damage against your marked target. This effect can occur every 4 seconds.
And on top of this I will use bloodspawn as a monster set for the extra ult recovery for resto ults, and the extra resistances fits perfect with the new meta.Cleared Trials:
- vAA HM - vHRC HM - vSO HM - vMoL HM - vHoF HM - vAS HM - vCR HM -
"The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, and a lot of bitching."
-Someone said it, I guess.2 -
MalagenR✭✭✭✭✭To feel the need of old proc sets in the upcoming DLC is understandable, But I'm here to say that you need to worry no more!
The new DLC, as well as destroying sorcs, adds a few sets that be used in interesting ways.
So what I have tested on PTS and will adapt over to live is this:
Bright-Throat’s Boast (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Max Magicka
4: Magicka Recovery
5: While you have a drink buff active, your Max Magicka is increased by 2000 and Magicka Recovery 150.
This will be the main body set, full impen with prismatic enchants on big and magica on small (can do full prismatic)
And I will combine this with dubious cameron buff drink, this will net me a nice amount of mag / stam + recovery
Along with this I'll use two secondary sets for different situations, First for group play (small scale cyro) I will use Vicious death. A truly godly set when fighting outnumbered.
For Solo play, BGs, and more random play I will use Spell Strategist, as this set adds a really nice amount of spell dmg on a easy condition, as it fits perfectly for the sorcs single target burst.
Spell Strategist (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Spell Damage
4: Spell Damage
5: When you deal damage with a Light Attack, you place a mark over your target for 5 seconds, granting you 500 Spell Damage against your marked target. This effect can occur every 4 seconds.
And on top of this I will use bloodspawn as a monster set for the extra ult recovery for resto ults, and the extra resistances fits perfect with the new meta.
That's not a bad set up but you're still going to get popped by any competent NB - you won't have enough HP for large shields, and you have no defensive statistics besides Impen to protect yourself from this. Important to note your skill bar set up too, are you slotting boundless for Major or what?0 -
Kikke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭To feel the need of old proc sets in the upcoming DLC is understandable, But I'm here to say that you need to worry no more!
The new DLC, as well as destroying sorcs, adds a few sets that be used in interesting ways.
So what I have tested on PTS and will adapt over to live is this:
Bright-Throat’s Boast (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Max Magicka
4: Magicka Recovery
5: While you have a drink buff active, your Max Magicka is increased by 2000 and Magicka Recovery 150.
This will be the main body set, full impen with prismatic enchants on big and magica on small (can do full prismatic)
And I will combine this with dubious cameron buff drink, this will net me a nice amount of mag / stam + recovery
Along with this I'll use two secondary sets for different situations, First for group play (small scale cyro) I will use Vicious death. A truly godly set when fighting outnumbered.
For Solo play, BGs, and more random play I will use Spell Strategist, as this set adds a really nice amount of spell dmg on a easy condition, as it fits perfectly for the sorcs single target burst.
Spell Strategist (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Spell Damage
4: Spell Damage
5: When you deal damage with a Light Attack, you place a mark over your target for 5 seconds, granting you 500 Spell Damage against your marked target. This effect can occur every 4 seconds.
And on top of this I will use bloodspawn as a monster set for the extra ult recovery for resto ults, and the extra resistances fits perfect with the new meta.
That's not a bad set up but you're still going to get popped by any competent NB - you won't have enough HP for large shields, and you have no defensive statistics besides Impen to protect yourself from this. Important to note your skill bar set up too, are you slotting boundless for Major or what?
Yes, boundless for major buffs. And I've never had an issue with NBs. Just dodge roll their incap and they usually run away on stealth for another day xP
edit: I am also looking into the protective trait and CP for the rest, but I'll test it out once I can do proper PvP on live. But for my playstyle were you try to be nimble, use shield and dodge roll around each other with streak for quick repostion for LoS. This setup works already. And could easily be made abit more tanky.
Second edit: Also if you run with a dedicated healer with transmutation set you can get away with a few well fitted armor parts for even cheaper dodge rolls, as we all know. Dodge roll > Shield, is like this on live, and continues like this in nerfmire.Edited by Kikke on October 12, 2018 1:04AMCleared Trials:
- vAA HM - vHRC HM - vSO HM - vMoL HM - vHoF HM - vAS HM - vCR HM -
"The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, and a lot of bitching."
-Someone said it, I guess.0 -
MalagenR✭✭✭✭✭To feel the need of old proc sets in the upcoming DLC is understandable, But I'm here to say that you need to worry no more!
The new DLC, as well as destroying sorcs, adds a few sets that be used in interesting ways.
So what I have tested on PTS and will adapt over to live is this:
Bright-Throat’s Boast (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Max Magicka
4: Magicka Recovery
5: While you have a drink buff active, your Max Magicka is increased by 2000 and Magicka Recovery 150.
This will be the main body set, full impen with prismatic enchants on big and magica on small (can do full prismatic)
And I will combine this with dubious cameron buff drink, this will net me a nice amount of mag / stam + recovery
Along with this I'll use two secondary sets for different situations, First for group play (small scale cyro) I will use Vicious death. A truly godly set when fighting outnumbered.
For Solo play, BGs, and more random play I will use Spell Strategist, as this set adds a really nice amount of spell dmg on a easy condition, as it fits perfectly for the sorcs single target burst.
Spell Strategist (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Spell Damage
4: Spell Damage
5: When you deal damage with a Light Attack, you place a mark over your target for 5 seconds, granting you 500 Spell Damage against your marked target. This effect can occur every 4 seconds.
And on top of this I will use bloodspawn as a monster set for the extra ult recovery for resto ults, and the extra resistances fits perfect with the new meta.
That's not a bad set up but you're still going to get popped by any competent NB - you won't have enough HP for large shields, and you have no defensive statistics besides Impen to protect yourself from this. Important to note your skill bar set up too, are you slotting boundless for Major or what?
Yes, boundless for major buffs. And I've never had an issue with NBs. Just dodge roll their incap and they usually run away on stealth for another day xP
edit: I am also looking into the protective trait and CP for the rest, but I'll test it out once I can do proper PvP on live. But for my playstyle were you try to be nimble, use shield and dodge roll around each other with streak for quick repostion for LoS. This setup works already. And could easily be made abit more tanky.
Second edit: Also if you run with a dedicated healer with transmutation set you can get away with a few well fitted armor parts for even cheaper dodge rolls, as we all know. Dodge roll > Shield, is like this on live, and continues like this in nerfmire.
How are you timing your dodge roll on Incap? Curious about that.0 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭All proc sets has been tried by me and many others. The problem is that you can't sustain. You will only kill people by blind luck with this build.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE3 -
Tonturri✭✭✭✭✭Whats about the armor master set? it gives 5% more health for shield strength.
This requires you to slot an armor skill and only works if the skill is on your active bar. Double barring any armor skill is a waste of a slot. If you only had to single bar it, it'd probably be a very nice set.0 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I will preffer something like this
Non proc damage or heals. Edited by Juhasow on October 12, 2018 7:56AM0 -
ForsakenSin✭✭✭✭✭
✭"By many i am seen as hero...as a savior of the Tamriel i will not stop until every Daedra every evil there is in Tamriel is vanquish by my hands..
However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)Arise From Darkness Forsaken SIn
"You have been a loyal High Elf Magica Sorc
Conjure of Darkness, Master of Magic
Killer of Molag Bal and Savior of Ebonheart Pact
Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."0 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is just sad. If you absolutely have to rely on proc sets to get even a chance on some offense then this highlights how borked the class is.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.2 -
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He has a thread
The pic has the Cyrodiil buffs going (such as when you capture something and get the spell dmg buff)
I'm guessing protective trait
I prefer screenshots without Cyrodiil buffs as they are misleading.
I would like some feedback on:
Bloodspawn
Dragon x5
Willpower front
x5 Eyes of Mara back
Panacea costs 77 ult with a theoretical 66% ish uptime0 -
Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I know its using armour-master..
Guessing new magica bone-pirate, including emperor health buffs, perhaps an aylid well too. Not sure on monster sets - but stat-based.. perhaps bloodspawn (with its proc up? but doesn't look very stony..) Not sure how to explain the stam recov.. maybe dubious instead?Minalan owes me a beer.
PC EU Megaserver
Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
Aidee - Magsorc - DC
Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.0 -
MalagenR✭✭✭✭✭I know its using armour-master..
Guessing new magica bone-pirate, including emperor health buffs, perhaps an aylid well too. Not sure on monster sets - but stat-based.. perhaps bloodspawn (with its proc up? but doesn't look very stony..) Not sure how to explain the stam recov.. maybe dubious instead?
Bright-throat + Dubious as guy earlier explained + Armor Master?0
