Midgardian wrote: »

And, once again, you aren't paying a subscription fee until after the 30 days. You are having an authorization, which is then immediately removed from your account. You aren't actually paying anything. There is nothing at all false about the statement you just quoted.

Alright good we've come this far. That's what I wanted you to agree with me on.

Now tell me why would they say they are 'helping to ensure people have access to their 30 Days Free.' to those who have authorization problems and can't afford it on their card at the moment, if they are in fact not doing so at all and instead asking to charge credit cards regardless?

Midgardian wrote: »

And, once again, you aren't paying a subscription fee until after the 30 days. You are having an authorization, which is then immediately removed from your account. You aren't actually paying anything. There is nothing at all false about the statement you just quoted.

Ok, then explain me how i must setup an authorization without a Creditcard or paypal account? And without paying another 15$.

I said in my post the only thing i can do to authorize it, is by paying up front the second month by using IDEAL, paysafecard or a game time card. These ways charge you directly!

And ofc i know one is being charged after the first month, but that's not my point! My point is, if the only options you have are either ideal, paysafecard or a gemetime card you already paid for the second month, since it's being charged directly.

Sigh, smh..

I agree the 3 days was very generous but it is not needed and I don't actually want it.

And yes, one statement does not translate to that obviously. But having it as #1 Stickied announcement on the Customer Support forums will lead to it being a meaningful post, a "Come here for answers/help!" type of thing.

As for the "what everyone else has to do, subscribe" is my point exactly Midgardian. Many people were told that they don't have to subscribe at all with the purchase of the game, and can stop playing if they end up not want to pay after the 30 days. Come the launch day that all changed.

Well I put my codes in and picked my sub plan, and they charged the bank. It is there in black and white. Of course it will drop off but I know for FACT when I go WoW BC, I was never asked for a sub fee until after my 30 days of free time was up. All they did was send an email a week before my time was up that if I wanted to continue playing my 30 days was almost up and I would have to sub.

It's all good, I can afford it. But it is shady and very bad of them to charge a full sub to check if you have money in the bank before your free time is up. It is none of their business to be honest. With the game people purchased 30 days time (free time if you must). And some people may not want to play after their 30 days free time. So why must they even sub yet? You didn't with WoW and most others MMOs I played were free of subs.

There is something fishy the top rank people are trying to do, whether it is to make their sales look good to stockholders or etc. And people have a right to complain. They just spent money to get the game and it comes with free time.

The way they are going with their customer service and being on the shady side they are heading down the path at 145 miles per hour to F2P, and when this happens I will be sad because this is a truly amazing game, but I will stop playing once it is F2P and go back to WoW (which I haven't played in over a year).

And those making excuses for them, go ahead. It is just going to ruin a game that could of went far.