The return of the shield spam 2x shields is max health shield 👍

Emmagoldman · October 2018

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

How about get real ? For the record currenlty on live sorc with 20k health and 50k magicka could get 15k hardened ward and dampen magic in PvP

Donny_Vito wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

Shields (whether stacked or not) will be less than what they once were. And now they can be critted, too. The problem is that ZOS has now increased this "Go heavy armor or go home" mentality, so you're going to see Sorcs forced into using HA in hopes to have Spell/Phys resistance make up for that loss of shields.

Actually You can get over 30k spell+phys resistance in light armor. Proff from PTS

Post the build or I don't believe you. Light armor with tank level resists, 31k health, and 18k stamina... dps levels of mag recovery, max mag, and spell damage (and decent stam recovery too, because why not)?

My best guess without breaking out the calculator is shackle+(whatever that new magicka bone pirate is)+2 1 piece resistance monster pieces, and all tri stat enchants... but something just seems off.

You’re forgetting about fortified brass. Currenly, on live, I can get my warden in full light without Chudan or anything at 36K magic resist, 32 physical. That won’t change in Murkmire. Oh, then just add Shacklebreaker and/ or Necropotence.

What's sad about that is it is pushing a class into very limited set ups that is not only limited but contrary to how people have enjoyed playing (thinking more in terms of pre one tamriel). I was thinking the set up was fortified brass (which will not add much in terms of damage) and necropotence forces you into a pet build. Pets are ok 1 vs 1 and in bgs but a nightmare and completely dumb in open world. It's a very defensive play style that isn't generally enjoyed. I can't see many sorcs being pumped about retraited all their sets as well. I know that many have gone impen, but now it is a must. Really, after this many years, how is it that ZOS is making huge sweeping changes instead of fine adjustments.

It's almost like they are following MMO designs to keep people re farming and traiting gear to keep them active..... I'll be honest, I haven't seen people this unmotivated in a LONG time

DarkJester1 · October 2018

That's all well and good, but don't the shields still have a 1s cast-time? Or did they remove that too? Because that's still significant.

Drummerx04 · October 2018

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

How about get real ? For the record currenlty on live sorc with 20k health and 50k magicka could get 15k hardened ward and dampen magic in PvP

Donny_Vito wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

Shields (whether stacked or not) will be less than what they once were. And now they can be critted, too. The problem is that ZOS has now increased this "Go heavy armor or go home" mentality, so you're going to see Sorcs forced into using HA in hopes to have Spell/Phys resistance make up for that loss of shields.

Actually You can get over 30k spell+phys resistance in light armor. Proff from PTS

Post the build or I don't believe you. Light armor with tank level resists, 31k health, and 18k stamina... dps levels of mag recovery, max mag, and spell damage (and decent stam recovery too, because why not)?

My best guess without breaking out the calculator is shackle+(whatever that new magicka bone pirate is)+2 1 piece resistance monster pieces, and all tri stat enchants... but something just seems off.

Lol.. Just mocked up something close to what he has on a calculator.

It's doable, Warlock.

Great, so is this actually a viable build, or is it just all armor, skills, and CP cheese stacked to troll the forums? Because people here are like, "fortified brass exists" but that doesn't do jack all for crit% mag or stam max or recovery... and that's sort of the problem I have looking at this image.

Obviously some buffs are active, but there just seems to be too much for an honest solo build.

Juhasow · October 2018

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

How about get real ? For the record currenlty on live sorc with 20k health and 50k magicka could get 15k hardened ward and dampen magic in PvP

Donny_Vito wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

Shields (whether stacked or not) will be less than what they once were. And now they can be critted, too. The problem is that ZOS has now increased this "Go heavy armor or go home" mentality, so you're going to see Sorcs forced into using HA in hopes to have Spell/Phys resistance make up for that loss of shields.

Actually You can get over 30k spell+phys resistance in light armor. Proff from PTS

Post the build or I don't believe you. Light armor with tank level resists, 31k health, and 18k stamina... dps levels of mag recovery, max mag, and spell damage (and decent stam recovery too, because why not)?

My best guess without breaking out the calculator is shackle+(whatever that new magicka bone pirate is)+2 1 piece resistance monster pieces, and all tri stat enchants... but something just seems off.

Lol.. Just mocked up something close to what he has on a calculator.

It's doable, Warlock.

Great, so is this actually a viable build, or is it just all armor, skills, and CP cheese stacked to troll the forums? Because people here are like, "fortified brass exists" but that doesn't do jack all for crit% mag or stam max or recovery... and that's sort of the problem I have looking at this image.

Obviously some buffs are active, but there just seems to be too much for an honest solo build.

It's not Fortified Brass also yes it's fully buffed in combat with Continous Attack.

Here is picture with jewelery enchantments and few tweaks

bulcke10 · October 2018

Juhasow wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

How about get real ? For the record currenlty on live sorc with 20k health and 50k magicka could get 15k hardened ward and dampen magic in PvP

Donny_Vito wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

Shields (whether stacked or not) will be less than what they once were. And now they can be critted, too. The problem is that ZOS has now increased this "Go heavy armor or go home" mentality, so you're going to see Sorcs forced into using HA in hopes to have Spell/Phys resistance make up for that loss of shields.

Actually You can get over 30k spell+phys resistance in light armor. Proff from PTS

The best stats i ever seen 👍 i like it youre stats . Whats youre gear pls ?

Biro123 · October 2018

bulcke10 wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

How about get real ? For the record currenlty on live sorc with 20k health and 50k magicka could get 15k hardened ward and dampen magic in PvP

Donny_Vito wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

Shields (whether stacked or not) will be less than what they once were. And now they can be critted, too. The problem is that ZOS has now increased this "Go heavy armor or go home" mentality, so you're going to see Sorcs forced into using HA in hopes to have Spell/Phys resistance make up for that loss of shields.

Actually You can get over 30k spell+phys resistance in light armor. Proff from PTS

The best stats i ever seen 👍 i like it youre stats . Whats youre gear pls ?

Yeah, they seem a bit too impressive to me, to be constant. It must include some significant stat-procs with temporary uptime.

*Edit.. I'll maybe take a guess at Clever Alch, Fortified Bras, Domi and another max mag monster piece - using jewellery enchants and mundus for recov - tri-food, and tri-armour enchants everywhere.. maybe? Not sure if that will give 40k mag though..

*Edit 2 - No, maybe not Clever Alch.. I think that spell-damage may just simply be the berserker proc + major sorcery (with maybe one spell-dmg bonus?).. So, we still need health, mag and stam... Trainee?

jbjondeaueb17_ESO · October 2018

Could also be Structure Entropy, Inner Light and other things like that slotted on the skill bar.

Kalante · October 2018

its time to race change my stam nb to magicka nb

Neoealth · October 2018

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

How is it a buff? The changes still are not as good as how the shields were. It's still a nerf.

As it stands now, my shield is uncrittable yes? And my shield is about 23k

After the changes it will be much less and crittable. Tell me how that is not a nerf still?

radarsu · October 2018

Neoealth wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

How is it a buff? The changes still are not as good as how the shields were. It's still a nerf.

As it stands now, my shield is uncrittable yes? And my shield is about 23k

After the changes it will be much less and crittable. Tell me how that is not a nerf still?

Much less and crittable, but mitigating 30-50% damage from resistances. If it won't be lower than ~13k then it's likely a buff. If it will be lower, it's likely a nerf. Anyways I think that change may be considered "adjustment" - not a nerf nor buff.

Arrodisia · October 2018

I wish people would actually check and read the information they receive properly before starting topics like this in the forums.

The topic began with partially false and overdramatized information. The shields on the sorc are going to be weaker now. That is a fact. They would have to trash their already limited dps and sets to get themselves any tanker. They are already limited to which abilities they can have on the bars, especially if they want to play with pets. Leave well enough alone. They already got nerfed whether they like it or not. Beating this dead horse won't make it get up and run.

Morgul667 · October 2018

It’s a nerf lol. Even a blindman can see that. It was a deserved nerf but still a nerf.

1s interruptible cast time was crazy 40-50% health shield is ok for me

How will bastion compute now?

Biro123 · October 2018

Its a buff for tanks - not that magsorc tanks were a thing - but they may be now. A substantial nerf for everything else, though.

Tolino · October 2018

I think he wearing 5xTrainee, 5x Shackelbreaker and 2x lord Warden

Biro123 · October 2018

Tolino wrote: »

I think he wearing 5xTrainee, 5x Shackelbreaker and 2x lord Warden

Hm, good call on Lord Warden, I think, looking at the spell/weapon resists difference.. Although I think there are probably still around 6k+ resists still to account for... Maybe some from CP, maybe a defending staff (but I was expecting nirnhoned for that spell-damage)?..

Drummerx04 · October 2018

Biro123 wrote: »

Tolino wrote: »

I think he wearing 5xTrainee, 5x Shackelbreaker and 2x lord Warden

Hm, good call on Lord Warden, I think, looking at the spell/weapon resists difference.. Although I think there are probably still around 6k+ resists still to account for... Maybe some from CP, maybe a defending staff (but I was expecting nirnhoned for that spell-damage)?..

He coyly linked to Armor Master before editing the post to remove the answer. I guess he decided to keep everyone guessing.

Sotha_Sil · October 2018

Developper comment : it is a nerf if you understand what we did. It is a buff, if you don't.

Biro123 · October 2018

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Tolino wrote: »

I think he wearing 5xTrainee, 5x Shackelbreaker and 2x lord Warden

Hm, good call on Lord Warden, I think, looking at the spell/weapon resists difference.. Although I think there are probably still around 6k+ resists still to account for... Maybe some from CP, maybe a defending staff (but I was expecting nirnhoned for that spell-damage)?..

He coyly linked to Armor Master before editing the post to remove the answer. I guess he decided to keep everyone guessing.

Hm, ok.. I've always assumed that would only apply on the bar with the ability slotted (I'm also not sure how big a resist bonus it gives).
That said - with so much resists and impen, I probably wouldn't want to be tied to the light-armour shield - and would be aiming to only run hardened to free up a slot - and only use it intermittently to save on mag.

Waffennacht · October 2018

Protection trait.

Still won't pick mag over stam

Malamar1229 · October 2018

Armor master is a wasted 5 pc set with really bad set bonuses....you get the same resists from running Chudan and a line of health, and it's only a 2pc set.

Or boundless storm + bloodspawn

jaws343 · October 2018

Malamar1229 wrote: »

Armor master is a wasted 5 pc set with really bad set bonuses....you get the same resists from running Chudan and a line of health, and it's only a 2pc set.

Or boundless storm + bloodspawn

The issue I have with Armor Master is you have to double bar Harness to keep the 5% health bonus when you bar swap. And at 30K health, losing 1500 on a bar swap isn't great. And if you are double barring Harness, good luck running the sorc shield and fitting it onto your bar.

Biro123 · October 2018

Just did a little experimenting (on live).

Witchmothers, Shackle/Trainee 1xChudan, 1xPirate Skelly (and a little into the light-armour resists CP) gave similar stats, but missing around 6-7k resists and 7k health. I think recov is low (given the image was boosted by continuous attack) - but hard to say if it will be enough with the new dark exchange..
Was running an infused staff and had a cost reduction glyph (stuff which doesn't show on the stat sheet). Included inner light on the front bar.

My Hardened was at 11.7k in Cyro (19% bastion) - and health at 23k. (almost exactly 50%)

Could get a little more out of it with more tri-glyphs and golding the armour.

Probably better to run full pirate skelly - Still feels like something is missing though...

Vahrokh · October 2018

radarsu wrote: »

Neoealth wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

How is it a buff? The changes still are not as good as how the shields were. It's still a nerf.

As it stands now, my shield is uncrittable yes? And my shield is about 23k

After the changes it will be much less and crittable. Tell me how that is not a nerf still?

Much less and crittable, but mitigating 30-50% damage from resistances. If it won't be lower than ~13k then it's likely a buff. If it will be lower, it's likely a nerf. Anyways I think that change may be considered "adjustment" - not a nerf nor buff.

No PvE sorc will have a 13k shield, so yes, it's a nerf.

HankTwo · October 2018

Juhasow wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

How about get real ? For the record currenlty on live sorc with 20k health and 50k magicka could get 15k hardened ward and dampen magic in PvP

Donny_Vito wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

Shields (whether stacked or not) will be less than what they once were. And now they can be critted, too. The problem is that ZOS has now increased this "Go heavy armor or go home" mentality, so you're going to see Sorcs forced into using HA in hopes to have Spell/Phys resistance make up for that loss of shields.

Actually You can get over 30k spell+phys resistance in light armor. Proff from PTS

Post the build or I don't believe you. Light armor with tank level resists, 31k health, and 18k stamina... dps levels of mag recovery, max mag, and spell damage (and decent stam recovery too, because why not)?

My best guess without breaking out the calculator is shackle+(whatever that new magicka bone pirate is)+2 1 piece resistance monster pieces, and all tri stat enchants... but something just seems off.

Lol.. Just mocked up something close to what he has on a calculator.

It's doable, Warlock.

Great, so is this actually a viable build, or is it just all armor, skills, and CP cheese stacked to troll the forums? Because people here are like, "fortified brass exists" but that doesn't do jack all for crit% mag or stam max or recovery... and that's sort of the problem I have looking at this image.

Obviously some buffs are active, but there just seems to be too much for an honest solo build.

It's not Fortified Brass also yes it's fully buffed in combat with Continous Attack.

Here is picture with jewelery enchantments and few tweaks

Juhasow is showing his resistances at minimum health with the mark of the pariah set. You can see that, because his stat pictures have the red frame you get at low health. Imo, you should have mentioned that these stats are very conditional. Still looks like a very strong build, though.

Malamar1229 · October 2018

jaws343 wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

Armor master is a wasted 5 pc set with really bad set bonuses....you get the same resists from running Chudan and a line of health, and it's only a 2pc set.

Or boundless storm + bloodspawn

The issue I have with Armor Master is you have to double bar Harness to keep the 5% health bonus when you bar swap. And at 30K health, losing 1500 on a bar swap isn't great. And if you are double barring Harness, good luck running the sorc shield and fitting it onto your bar.

The health difference is good if you're trying to proc sets like transmutation and it's a means of doing so without slotting entropy.

Biro123 · October 2018

HankTwo wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

How about get real ? For the record currenlty on live sorc with 20k health and 50k magicka could get 15k hardened ward and dampen magic in PvP

Donny_Vito wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

Shields (whether stacked or not) will be less than what they once were. And now they can be critted, too. The problem is that ZOS has now increased this "Go heavy armor or go home" mentality, so you're going to see Sorcs forced into using HA in hopes to have Spell/Phys resistance make up for that loss of shields.

Actually You can get over 30k spell+phys resistance in light armor. Proff from PTS

Post the build or I don't believe you. Light armor with tank level resists, 31k health, and 18k stamina... dps levels of mag recovery, max mag, and spell damage (and decent stam recovery too, because why not)?

My best guess without breaking out the calculator is shackle+(whatever that new magicka bone pirate is)+2 1 piece resistance monster pieces, and all tri stat enchants... but something just seems off.

Lol.. Just mocked up something close to what he has on a calculator.

It's doable, Warlock.

Great, so is this actually a viable build, or is it just all armor, skills, and CP cheese stacked to troll the forums? Because people here are like, "fortified brass exists" but that doesn't do jack all for crit% mag or stam max or recovery... and that's sort of the problem I have looking at this image.

Obviously some buffs are active, but there just seems to be too much for an honest solo build.

It's not Fortified Brass also yes it's fully buffed in combat with Continous Attack.

Here is picture with jewelery enchantments and few tweaks

Juhasow is showing his resistances at minimum health with the mark of the pariah set. You can see that, because his stat pictures have the red frame you get at low health. Imo, you should have mentioned that these stats are very conditional. Still looks like a very strong build, though.

Ahh... we're being trolled then!

HankTwo · October 2018

Biro123 wrote: »

HankTwo wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

How about get real ? For the record currenlty on live sorc with 20k health and 50k magicka could get 15k hardened ward and dampen magic in PvP

Donny_Vito wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

Shields (whether stacked or not) will be less than what they once were. And now they can be critted, too. The problem is that ZOS has now increased this "Go heavy armor or go home" mentality, so you're going to see Sorcs forced into using HA in hopes to have Spell/Phys resistance make up for that loss of shields.

Actually You can get over 30k spell+phys resistance in light armor. Proff from PTS

Post the build or I don't believe you. Light armor with tank level resists, 31k health, and 18k stamina... dps levels of mag recovery, max mag, and spell damage (and decent stam recovery too, because why not)?

My best guess without breaking out the calculator is shackle+(whatever that new magicka bone pirate is)+2 1 piece resistance monster pieces, and all tri stat enchants... but something just seems off.

Lol.. Just mocked up something close to what he has on a calculator.

It's doable, Warlock.

Great, so is this actually a viable build, or is it just all armor, skills, and CP cheese stacked to troll the forums? Because people here are like, "fortified brass exists" but that doesn't do jack all for crit% mag or stam max or recovery... and that's sort of the problem I have looking at this image.

Obviously some buffs are active, but there just seems to be too much for an honest solo build.

It's not Fortified Brass also yes it's fully buffed in combat with Continous Attack.

Here is picture with jewelery enchantments and few tweaks

Juhasow is showing his resistances at minimum health with the mark of the pariah set. You can see that, because his stat pictures have the red frame you get at low health. Imo, you should have mentioned that these stats are very conditional. Still looks like a very strong build, though.

Ahh... we're being trolled then!

I wouldn't say trolled, but its definitely misleading. Pariah is a good set.

Samadhi · October 2018

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

My magblade in Fortified Brass is prolly just going to swap out Double Take for Harness
with ESO, you really just have to know how to adapt to Sorc-based balance decisions

realistically, recent previews of Fallout 76 have me thinking that ESO may no longer be worth my time

Juhasow · October 2018

HankTwo wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

How about get real ? For the record currenlty on live sorc with 20k health and 50k magicka could get 15k hardened ward and dampen magic in PvP

Donny_Vito wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Sorcs cried so much they reverted a huge shield nerf to a buff

Maybe... maybe we should all cry like sorcs next major update ? To change major nerf in to a major buff ?

But seriously.... this is exactly what happened. Shields will be so powerful now that I don't think even crit dmg will help much.
I was really hoping that sets like Shield Breaker wont be a necessary to fight against shield stacking... but looking at those changes.. well... maybe I am wrong.. time will tell.

Shields (whether stacked or not) will be less than what they once were. And now they can be critted, too. The problem is that ZOS has now increased this "Go heavy armor or go home" mentality, so you're going to see Sorcs forced into using HA in hopes to have Spell/Phys resistance make up for that loss of shields.

Actually You can get over 30k spell+phys resistance in light armor. Proff from PTS

Post the build or I don't believe you. Light armor with tank level resists, 31k health, and 18k stamina... dps levels of mag recovery, max mag, and spell damage (and decent stam recovery too, because why not)?

My best guess without breaking out the calculator is shackle+(whatever that new magicka bone pirate is)+2 1 piece resistance monster pieces, and all tri stat enchants... but something just seems off.

Lol.. Just mocked up something close to what he has on a calculator.

It's doable, Warlock.

Great, so is this actually a viable build, or is it just all armor, skills, and CP cheese stacked to troll the forums? Because people here are like, "fortified brass exists" but that doesn't do jack all for crit% mag or stam max or recovery... and that's sort of the problem I have looking at this image.

Obviously some buffs are active, but there just seems to be too much for an honest solo build.

It's not Fortified Brass also yes it's fully buffed in combat with Continous Attack.

Here is picture with jewelery enchantments and few tweaks

Juhasow is showing his resistances at minimum health with the mark of the pariah set. You can see that, because his stat pictures have the red frame you get at low health. Imo, you should have mentioned that these stats are very conditional. Still looks like a very strong build, though.

No lol. Red framing is because of the combat. Try to actually compare in fight red screen and low health screen for once before commenting.

Juhasow · October 2018

jaws343 wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

Armor master is a wasted 5 pc set with really bad set bonuses....you get the same resists from running Chudan and a line of health, and it's only a 2pc set.

Or boundless storm + bloodspawn

The issue I have with Armor Master is you have to double bar Harness to keep the 5% health bonus when you bar swap. And at 30K health, losing 1500 on a bar swap isn't great. And if you are double barring Harness, good luck running the sorc shield and fitting it onto your bar.

No You dont lol. You dont need that 5% health bonus 100% of a time You need it only on bar where You have shields to increase Your max hp which increase max shield You can get. It even buffs Healing Ward since with 15% HP You'll get same shield strenght as someone with 20k hp would get when he dropped down to 10k. Harness on back bar is also great resistances buff since You want to keep shields up anyway so 10 seconds buff is more then enough to keep high uptimes on it.

Malamar1229 wrote: »

Armor master is a wasted 5 pc set with really bad set bonuses....you get the same resists from running Chudan and a line of health, and it's only a 2pc set.

Or boundless storm + bloodspawn

You get same resistance like with chudan just for using boundless. Also good luck wasting bar space for slotting a set on constant pieces where Armor Master version on setup can give You more resistances and can be only slotted on back bar , increases Your max shields strenght plus You can run Bloodspawn as monster set which is far superioir in PvP to chudan since You get more resists , fast ulti gen and stam regen whenre You loose only tiny bit of health which You have more then enough already. Armor Master have huge adventage that You can slot it only on back bar to get the bonus which is basicly close to what sorcs were doing with wizard's riposte.

Also please focus on thread subject maybe because I think the pic I posted kinda moved this thread out of it course since I just wanted to prove high resistances are possible with light armor while still keeping reasonable stats not to discuss builds.