Im a little indifferent on whether give it or not. But I totally agree that with each patch there are more and more things to collect, and atleast with each new chapter there should be a new uograde option for the bag and the bank (2 would be awsome). I now there are new home storage chests but they are much more time consuming then the bag and even then the bank.

jainiadral wrote: »

Mintaka5 wrote: »

Wait how does a play-for-free player have any leverage here?

There's no trade off to offer, really. Keep them wanting to pay, and give all paying subscribers unlimited space. Hell I'd say make a premium subscription option for the infinite bank space. But if the trade off is giving freebies infinite craft bag space, HELL NO!

No one here is playing for free. Everyone's purchased at least the base game.

I bought the base game on steam for £7.50 I got my money's worth in the first week.

I sub because I like the game and think it deserves to be properly paid for.

Yes the crafting bag should be available outside of ESO + but I do not agree it should be given away to all.

Skwor wrote: »

People need pay period. Nothing is free.

I shouldn't have to pay hundreds of dollars a year to have a decent crafting experience on top of the yearly expansions and cosmetics I buy.

I didn't misread it either.

I'm sure the dev team would love to solve the riddle of "how do we give our players INFINITE BAG SPACE without the servers melting down trying to parse INFINITE ITEMS?

Shadowasrial wrote: »

As we continue to gain more and more dlc new styles and traits our banks are getting more and more filled. Even for our eso + subscribers. And even for those that don’t subscribe it’s even worse. Now I am an eso + subscriber myself and even I feel that the craft bag should be available to all, however many people only subscribe for it. So I’m offering a solution. What if eso plus subscribers got the craft bag and infinite bank space? Would you accept that trade off?

The only issue is that issue throws massive amounts of sets at you with a horrid trait RNG as it progression system. , and the inventory system is a friggin mess these two things dont mix well at all

It always baffles me when people blindly spout replies like "no people have to pay" for a basic feature like inventory space, or when they say "lolno I want to be selfish and use this to my advantage even though this would make everyone's lives so much easier". My favorite opposition to this is that "ESO+ needs to be special!", which never fails to make my shake my head.

1) People shouldn't have to pay for inventory space in a game that refuses to expand the max number of bank/inventory slots, despite the number of mats that keep getting added to the game. I'm pretty sure that the max number of combined inventory slots you can unlock for your bank and on any given character hasn't changed since ESO launched, despite the fact that droves and droves of various mats have been and will continue to be introduced to the game. This is one of the biggest reasons I feel craft bags should be given to all players as a base feature. If ZOS isn't going to increase a player's max inventory space in any other way, it's nothing short of BS to force people to pay out for means of relief in inventory management.

2) People shouldn't have to create alts in order to use them as pack mules to carry mats. When a game has so many mats that people need to create numerous characters to store all of them, that says to me bad inventory design. I will admit that I've not really played any other MMOs, so I can't say if this is a norm or not, but if it is it's a pretty crappy one. Characters should be made because you want to play them, not out of necessity to store all the stuff you need for a base part of the game.

3) For the selfish lot who want craft bags to stay exclusive, let me ask you this. How often do you find yourselves without your sub? How frustrating does it get when you have to swap characters multiple times to deal with your inventory, or when you have to constantly make trips to the bank to deposit things from an inventory who's space is being eaten with all the voracity of a starving wolf? Now imagine how people without the craft bags feel when they have to go through this day in and day out. And before anyone spews, "Well if a person is that inconvenienced they can just pay up like the rest of us do lol", maybe take a moment to look outside your own little bubble and consider people might not have the means to pay for a sub. As someone who supports myself and my mother on a low-wage job, taking care of the expenses of two people and animals on a one-person salary, I can attest to the number of times I have to let my sub expire in favor of more important things like gas or food money. The periods in which I'm without my sub, I literally don't open any of my daily writ boxes until I've got my sub back again, because I simply don't have the space for all those mats I get from them.

4) And for those screaming that crafting bags need to stay ESO+ exclusive to make the sub special, I hate to break it to you, but it's already special because of ALL the other perks it gives. Free access to all DLC? Double bank and furnishing slots? 1,650 free Crowns every month starting next month? The ability to dye costumes? The people whining that crafting bags needs to stay exclusive to keep ESO+ "special" sound as entitled as the people they accuse of wanting free things do.

And here's something I don't think any of the naysayers against this have considered; there can be a "free" version of the crafting bags without taking that ever-so-important exclusiveness away entirely. Make it have reduced capacity (though make it enough to actually make it useful to players) and the people who want/need the additional crafting bag space can then upgrade to the more expansive bags of ESO+. I personally would rather see crafting bags as a whole moved to the vanilla game, but I don't see that happening any time soon, sadly.

Oh, btw, you can't really have "unlimited" inventory of any kind, be it bank, character, crafting bag, etc. One has to take into account the face that the storage space for the megaservers isn't infinite itself. There has to be a limit of some kind.

Mr_Walker wrote: »

No, ESO+ would lose a LOT of subscribers, but bank space needs to be upgraded soon, I would suggest.

I think this is probably the correct answer and a bank upgrade would probably be the right way to go about it.

You're right though to point out with all the new DLC content and the motifs that go along with them, the current bank capacity just isn't enough.