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Should eso + craft bag be given to all in exchange for infinite space?
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AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoMore bank upgrades for gold would be fine.
I subscribe for the craftibag and costume dying. I don't need more bank space, nor do I need more DLC since most seem to only contain 2 DLC group dungeons that I will never touch. So if the craftibag left the sub, so would I.
Edited by AcadianPaladin on October 3, 2018 9:28PMPC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo2 -
Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nowtlonewolf20 wrote: »I fail to see the problem with inventory issues. Even without subbing you have 240 bank space, 360 storage container space. 8 character slots each with access up to 200 spaces. If you add in access to a guild bank. assuming you keep 2 characters clear for farming and playing. You have 2100 storage slots for mats and gear. I am actually surprised people mention furniture here....cause you know furniture can be stored in houses. If you run out of space you just buy another house. If you have all of the houses and still run out of space the stop crafting/buying furniture.
This is assuming the person has the max amount of toons allowable, and all toons have their inventory maxed. Either way, Monster sets alone take up 204 spaces, assuming you only need one set of each in heavy, medium and light. Then there is seige for Cyrodil, which doesn't stack, so that takes up a ton of room. Then there are crafting surveys, maps, master writs, weapon and armor sets, collectibles, potions, foods, sets of training gear for leveling up new toons, stacks of key shards, stacks of soul gems, stacks of lockpicks. If someone is fully and actively playing the full range of this game, it is unbelievably easy to fill up that inventory.
Just to take one example - the fact that you're attempting to counter criticism of hoarders who hang onto stuff unnecessarily by referring to the need to hold "stacks of lockpicks" says it all really.
To be fair I just checked and I currently have 934 lockpicks on my account.
But that's split between 7 characters, if any of them end up with more than 200 I delete the extras, I definitely wouldn't keep more than 200 in the bank.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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srfrogg23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No opinionI'm not against the idea myself. I just dont think this is a realistic hope. That crafting bag is a pretty major incentive for people to sub. I dont think I see Zos giving that up under any conditions or caveats.0 -
Reistr_the_Unbroken✭✭✭✭✭
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That actually sounds like a good ideaNo ...
But I think with each chapter the base player should get 100 more banks spaces and 50 more bag space
Both purchasable through gold in game
So owning both chapters now base players would have 100 more bag space and 200 more bank space
ESO plus user get double
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ResTandRespeC✭✭✭✭YesI just need bank space
. Got a guild bank, a maxed regular bank, characters carrying stuff and housing storage yet i still have to delete items id rather keep. 1 -
Mintaka5✭✭✭✭✭NoWait how does a play-for-free player have any leverage here?
There's no trade off to offer, really. Keep them wanting to pay, and give all paying subscribers unlimited space. Hell I'd say make a premium subscription option for the infinite bank space. But if the trade off is giving freebies infinite craft bag space, HELL NO!1 -
wolfie1.0.✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoReistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »
That actually sounds like a good ideaNo ...
But I think with each chapter the base player should get 100 more banks spaces and 50 more bag space
Both purchasable through gold in game
So owning both chapters now base players would have 100 more bag space and 200 more bank space
ESO plus user get double
This is something that I would support0 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesLet me get this straight... some of you guys would give up INFINITE BANK SPACE, just so you could deprive others of the friggin' crafting bag?
LMAO, what kind of selfish idiots....
Edited by Emma_Overload on October 4, 2018 7:41AM#CAREBEARMASTERRACE4 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesEmma_Overload wrote: »Let me get this straight... some of you guys would give up INFINITE BANK SPACE, just you could deprive others of the friggin' crafting bag?
LMAO, what kind of selfish idiots....
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Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoEmma_Overload wrote: »Let me get this straight... some of you guys would give up INFINITE BANK SPACE, just you could deprive others of the friggin' crafting bag?
LMAO, what kind of selfish idiots....
No, to get it straight, you're bashing part of the community over a suggestion that will never officially be on the table for discussion.signing off0 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesThe only reason anyone subs is craft bag
Speak for yourself, John. I subbed before I even knew about the bag, and actually before I could even get in game due to various issues.
I ALWAYS support games I play. I not only sub, I buy crowns or whatever over and above. I doubt I'll ever have more than a couple of ESO+ accounts (unlike the 7 I had in WoW, subbed for 6 months at a time; or the 5 ditto in RIFT) but that's because due to RL "issues", I have less disposable income now.
I love TES; I love ESO; and I'm perfectly happy to sub even if there's no bag.
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BringerOfOmens✭✭✭NoRemove the F2P model all together and require subs. Then all players can have the same perks and a level playing field. Whoa....0
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BigM✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoVoted NO only because I feel the game needs more subs so we can keep going in the direction we are headed.
I will be hated for this next statement, but I believe the sub should be set little higher to 18 a month. But that's just me. 😁“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
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Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesVoted NO only because I feel the game needs more subs so we can keep going in the direction we are headed.
I will be hated for this next statement, but I believe the sub should be set little higher to 18 a month. But that's just me. 😁
I'm good with an uptick in the price. It's still the cheapest entertainment on the planet.1 -
NoI played for 4 years without ESO+. I play one character 99% of the time, and have a rarely played alt. I have 3 other characters I've made solely as mule characters. I was in a weekly rotation of muling items from my main to the bank to the alts. One was solely crafting materials, one was stacks of 200 and my trade guild mule, and the other was items and potions. That was just what I got used to doing, and I was fine with it. On the occasion that I bought crowns, I would get DLC stuff, just so I didn't miss out on much content. But then the content was more than the crowns I was purchasing so ultimately there was a lot of content I still wasn't accessing.
Then I got ESO+ and HOLY UNLIMITED INVENTORY. That alone was worth the sub to me. Once I did that, I can't go back, and I'm ok with that. The crown bonus is nice, so I don't have to spend those on content that I'm subbing to, but even if that wasn't the case the crafting bag and inventory space alone is worth the sub.
I know this is just my experience and how I adapted, but the point is you can adapt if you choose to, either with or without +.1 -
ZeroXFF✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesShadowasrial wrote: »As we continue to gain more and more dlc new styles and traits our banks are getting more and more filled. Even for our eso + subscribers. And even for those that don’t subscribe it’s even worse. Now I am an eso + subscriber myself and even I feel that the craft bag should be available to all, however many people only subscribe for it. So I’m offering a solution. What if eso plus subscribers got the craft bag and infinite bank space? Would you accept that trade off?
Anything helping with storage is welcome. However I would much prefer it if instead of just giving us more storage that we have to manage, they gave us the ability to research different sets the way we can research traits right now. That way we would still have to run the content to get the pieces that we want to wear (or research), but we would no longer have to keep a gazillion of sets in our bags just so we don't have to farm them when we want to try a build with one of those sets.
We would then just keep the jewelry because jewelry crafting is still broken.
Edited by ZeroXFF on October 4, 2018 4:00AM0 -
Avnr✭✭✭No opinionjust need to share all items across all alt's.
Tired moving stuff from alt to alt .
I have one monster set that 4 of my alt's can use - do I need to farm 4 sets? no0 -
mreisse✭✭✭NoI don't have ESO+ and I still think it's a bad idea to kick the people who are keeping the lights on. I accept my peon status! Let those who pay have the craft bag. As it is, the craft bag only "saves" you from 397 slots for all the mats. There's way more armor sets and paintings I'm collecting on mules.
(Now if they added a furniture warehouse or an armory to the sub, I might buy in
Edited by mreisse on October 4, 2018 5:08AM0 -
jaekobcaed✭✭✭YesI would say yes. Personally, I think ZOS should do what ArenaNet did with GW2's material storage: you have a cap of how many mats you can store but can purchase increases to that cap. ESO Plus members would have unlimited storage in the crafting bag while non-ESO Plus members could have, say, 250 of an individual material in storage before they have to start using them. This would also give ZOS the opportunity to capitalize off of it by offering non-ESO Plus members the ability to purchase a higher cap. But the ESO Plus members will always have unlimited storage no matter what.
That way everyone can benefit from the crafting bag while ESO Plus members still receive a much better version.AD: Isachar Daierenfel - Altmer Templar | Solveig Falkenberg - Nord Warden
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ssorgatem✭✭✭✭NoNo, the craft bag is the main ESO+ seller.
They could, however, increase the maximum available bank space, making more upgrades available.
Which they could also sell for crowns, of course, as they already do.0 -
jainiadral✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesWait how does a play-for-free player have any leverage here?
There's no trade off to offer, really. Keep them wanting to pay, and give all paying subscribers unlimited space. Hell I'd say make a premium subscription option for the infinite bank space. But if the trade off is giving freebies infinite craft bag space, HELL NO!
No one here is playing for free. Everyone's purchased at least the base game.6 -
KaiDynasty✭✭✭NoThe craft bag is designed appositely to mark the difference between eso plus players and non eso plus players. They won't put it also as purchasable in crowns because it gives too much QoL to limit it on a single purchase.
I am a non eso plus player btw..0 -
redlink1979✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NoI disagree with your opinion but I think ESO+ subscribers are the ones that should have even more bank and bag space. We, those who pay, need more benefits for spending real money every month. I just subscribe ESO+ plus for the craft bag only because there's no life without it.Edited by redlink1979 on October 4, 2018 8:35AM"Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"- Sons of the Night Mother | VforVendetta | Grownups Gaming EU | English Elders [PS][EU] 2500 CP
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Jurand80✭✭✭✭YesI learned to live without it. You can have your own guild bank for matz and additional storage in houses. Once a year put everything in the bag when eso+ is free. Don't store set pieces that are not div or impen.
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