Finally , someone who actually understands how chest respawns work!
I still find myself worrying that if I decide not to steal an obsidian stone from a wardrobe, because it's not worth the 1/1000 chance an NPC will pop up and catch me, that I'm leaving junk behind for the next thief forever.
But if it just resets on a timer, then big whoop.
primethief147 wrote: »Ok so im seeing conflicting reports about chest respawns. If the case is that all chests have the same respawn timer regardless of being emptied or not isn't it more convenient for people to leave stuff behind signifying that someone was there? If the respawn timers are not the same then sure you have an argument, but if your wrong all your complaining about is that someone reached the chest before you did.
primethief147 wrote: »Ok so im seeing conflicting reports about chest respawns. If the case is that all chests have the same respawn timer regardless of being emptied or not isn't it more convenient for people to leave stuff behind signifying that someone was there? If the respawn timers are not the same then sure you have an argument, but if your wrong all your complaining about is that someone reached the chest before you did.
Nah. Why would I need to know someone was already there? It's pretty obvious that's the case when the chest is missing anyway.
Leaving stuff behind isn't a big deal. It's just annoying and rude. I see a chest, I change course, clear away any mobs nearby, and then find out that the chest is nothing more than somebody's litter. If the chest had been properly looted then I wouldn't have wasted my time getting to it. That's all. Kinda like spotting a $20 on the ground only to find out it's monopoly money after you pick it up.
prof-dracko wrote: »Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?
Neither. People usually farm for rare and expensive set items, so whether the chest is locked or not makes little difference.
VaranisArano wrote: »SaxonCrusader wrote: »Anyone else have a better way of trying to comprehend what's going on? The passivity and awkwardly condescending politeness isn't really my cup of tea.
OP is really annoyed by people who leave their trash in chests instead of clearing them and wants them shamed and punished.
Personally, I find it annoying to run up to a chest only to find I'm getting no exp, no gold, and trash. I think the people who do that are jerks.
But I don't think they need to be punished. I just wish they would decide to be more polite and pick up after themselves.
Androconium wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »my bad my bags are just always full and its a pain to go delete like 3 things for trash
Full of what?
oh dear, my inventory is full! whatever shall I do? I know!! I'll go open a few treasure chests!!!111ioneone
jainiadral wrote: »
not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):
(...)
Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
(...)
I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?
Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?
not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):
(...)
Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
(...)
I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?
Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?
True professionals always carry a copy of that, I'm sure.
Finally , someone who actually understands how chest respawns work!
I still find myself worrying that if I decide not to steal an obsidian stone from a wardrobe, because it's not worth the 1/1000 chance an NPC will pop up and catch me, that I'm leaving junk behind for the next thief forever.
But if it just resets on a timer, then big whoop.
Yeah, I'm kinda of the same mind now (big whoop).
I skipped over a couple of pages yesterday, and rather, just responded to what I had already read.
Seems I missed some totally relevant info.
I didn't realize they were on re-spawn timers, and in fixed spots.
Perspective: somewhat changed. (Intentional dickishness just to mess with people is still an exception.)
Finally , someone who actually understands how chest respawns work!
I remember reading in zone chat when I first started (circa One Tamriel) that if you picked a flower but left the worms, the node would stay visually empty forever until someone stumbled upon the spot and picked up the worms you left behind. I never really gave it much thought once my bag got big enough, though I've never once stumbled on worms in a hole in the ground.
Everything respawning on a timer would make a lot more sense.
I still find myself worrying that if I decide not to steal an obsidian stone from a wardrobe, because it's not worth the 1/1000 chance an NPC will pop up and catch me, that I'm leaving junk behind for the next thief forever. But if it just resets on a timer, then big whoop.
Wardrobes are different from crafting nodes. Every backpack, nightstand, barrel, sack, or “common container” is instanced to each player. If you open up a warderobe and see a recipe, if I’m standing next to you and open up the same wardrobe, I will see something different.
prof-dracko wrote: »Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?
Neither. People usually farm for rare and expensive set items, so whether the chest is locked or not makes little difference.
It does, actually, because the respawn timer starts when the chest is opened, not when it's emptied.
Simply put, you're upset you found a chest with things you didn't want, when the alternative was not finding the chest at all.
Your feelings were hurt, but the chest will respawn properly even if there's stuff in it, after a while it will just disappear.
You're not going to lose anything, not skill points, not loot, as the chest wouldn't have respawned anyways.
Hope this helps.
Have a nice day.VaranisArano wrote: »SaxonCrusader wrote: »Anyone else have a better way of trying to comprehend what's going on? The passivity and awkwardly condescending politeness isn't really my cup of tea.
OP is really annoyed by people who leave their trash in chests instead of clearing them and wants them shamed and punished.
Personally, I find it annoying to run up to a chest only to find I'm getting no exp, no gold, and trash. I think the people who do that are jerks.
But I don't think they need to be punished. I just wish they would decide to be more polite and pick up after themselves.
I beg to differ
When 150 slots are reserved for PvE and PvP gear, and your bank is already full of stuff to deconstruct, stuff you're not sure it's going to be good next patch, but someone told you it will, and your mules with stuff you crafted to try out, yeah, it's not.
I have 8 toons, and 6 of them only have less than 10 free slots at all times.
Not one of them has trash, only keeping pieces I need to transmute, rings to deconstruct, mats to upgrade...
Oh, right, not everyone can afford to sub for crafting bags, I suppose that's my fault as well ?
Enjoy the worms and the training blue rubedite swords.Androconium wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »my bad my bags are just always full and its a pain to go delete like 3 things for trash
Full of what?
oh dear, my inventory is full! whatever shall I do? I know!! I'll go open a few treasure chests!!!111ioneone
not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):
5 pieces Mother Sorrow (body)
5 pieces Master Architect (body)
4 pieces Master Architect (jewelry + staff)
2 pieces Grothdarr
4 pieces Valkyn Skoria (2 divines, 2 impen)
2 pieces Zaan (2 impen)
2 pieces Ilambris
5 pieces Impregnable (body)
5 piece Impregnable (jewelry + 2 staves)
5 pieces Vicious Death (jewelry + staff + greatsword)
5 pieces Livewire (body)
5 pieces Bahraha's curse (jewelry + shield + axe)
2 pieces Molag Kena
2 pieces Swarm Mother
2 pieces Master Shield+Master Sword
2 pieces Maelstrom Shield + Maelstrom Sword
2 pieces Troll King
5 pieces War Maiden (body)
4 pieces Moondancer (jewelry + staff)
4 pieces Infallible Aether (jewelry + staff)
3 pieces Willpower (jewelry)
1 Maelstrom Inferno Staff
1 Maelstrom Lightning Staff
1 Maelstrom Ice Staff
1 Maelstrom Restoration Staff
1 Master Inferno Staff
1 Asylum Inferno Staff
1 Inferno staff of Torug's Pact
4 pieces Wizard's Riposte (jewelry + staff)
Grand Repair kits
Potion of Spell Power
Essence of Magicka
Essence of Immovability
Keep Door Woodwork Repair Kit
Keep Wall Masonry Repair Kit
Longfin Pastry with Melon Sauce
Melon-Baked Parmesan Pork
Witchmother's Potent Brew
Grand Amnesty Edict
Counterfeit Pardon Edict
Lockpicks
Soul Gems
Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
Guild Tabard
Ancient Scales
Casserite Sand
Dried Blood
Iridium Grains
Malachite Shards
Platinum Dust
Pulverized Antimony
Pulverized Aurbic Amber
Pulverized Cobalt
Pulverized Dibellum
Pulverized Titanium
Raw Ancestor Silk
Rough Ruby Ash
Rubedite Ore
Rubedite Hide Scraps
Terne Grains
Zircon Grains
Chromium Grains
I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?
Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?
The moment you (or someone else) interacts with it, the respawn timer is set.I remember reading in zone chat when I first started (circa One Tamriel) that if you picked a flower but left the worms, the node would stay visually empty forever until someone stumbled upon the spot and picked up the worms you left behind. I never really gave it much thought once my bag got big enough, though I've never once stumbled on worms in a hole in the ground.Finally , someone who actually understands how chest respawns work!
Everything respawning on a timer would make a lot more sense.
I still find myself worrying that if I decide not to steal an obsidian stone from a wardrobe, because it's not worth the 1/1000 chance an NPC will pop up and catch me, that I'm leaving junk behind for the next thief forever. But if it just resets on a timer, then big whoop.
Regardless of whether you fully loot the node/chest/whatever or not.
So the worst that can happen is that you come across a chest that otherwise wouldn't even be there.
ZOS is to be blamed as they made it possible, so something to be re-worked. I also have limited space and want only the best items, but being aware of the others wandering around I don't leave trash behind. In these specific situations people should be less selfish, more thinking about others. Let the chest respawn faster. It's sad that ZOS doesn't learn about that in their opening screens.Trinity_Is_My_Name wrote: »Some people have limited space to pick up the best items so they leave stuff in the chests and nodes.

prof-dracko wrote: »Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?
Neither. People usually farm for rare and expensive set items, so whether the chest is locked or not makes little difference.
It does, actually, because the respawn timer starts when the chest is opened, not when it's emptied.
Simply put, you're upset you found a chest with things you didn't want, when the alternative was not finding the chest at all.
Your feelings were hurt, but the chest will respawn properly even if there's stuff in it, after a while it will just disappear.
You're not going to lose anything, not skill points, not loot, as the chest wouldn't have respawned anyways.
Hope this helps.
Have a nice day.VaranisArano wrote: »SaxonCrusader wrote: »Anyone else have a better way of trying to comprehend what's going on? The passivity and awkwardly condescending politeness isn't really my cup of tea.
OP is really annoyed by people who leave their trash in chests instead of clearing them and wants them shamed and punished.
Personally, I find it annoying to run up to a chest only to find I'm getting no exp, no gold, and trash. I think the people who do that are jerks.
But I don't think they need to be punished. I just wish they would decide to be more polite and pick up after themselves.
I beg to differ
When 150 slots are reserved for PvE and PvP gear, and your bank is already full of stuff to deconstruct, stuff you're not sure it's going to be good next patch, but someone told you it will, and your mules with stuff you crafted to try out, yeah, it's not.
I have 8 toons, and 6 of them only have less than 10 free slots at all times.
Not one of them has trash, only keeping pieces I need to transmute, rings to deconstruct, mats to upgrade...
Oh, right, not everyone can afford to sub for crafting bags, I suppose that's my fault as well ?
Enjoy the worms and the training blue rubedite swords.Androconium wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »my bad my bags are just always full and its a pain to go delete like 3 things for trash
Full of what?
oh dear, my inventory is full! whatever shall I do? I know!! I'll go open a few treasure chests!!!111ioneone
not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):
5 pieces Mother Sorrow (body)
5 pieces Master Architect (body)
4 pieces Master Architect (jewelry + staff)
2 pieces Grothdarr
4 pieces Valkyn Skoria (2 divines, 2 impen)
2 pieces Zaan (2 impen)
2 pieces Ilambris
5 pieces Impregnable (body)
5 piece Impregnable (jewelry + 2 staves)
5 pieces Vicious Death (jewelry + staff + greatsword)
5 pieces Livewire (body)
5 pieces Bahraha's curse (jewelry + shield + axe)
2 pieces Molag Kena
2 pieces Swarm Mother
2 pieces Master Shield+Master Sword
2 pieces Maelstrom Shield + Maelstrom Sword
2 pieces Troll King
5 pieces War Maiden (body)
4 pieces Moondancer (jewelry + staff)
4 pieces Infallible Aether (jewelry + staff)
3 pieces Willpower (jewelry)
1 Maelstrom Inferno Staff
1 Maelstrom Lightning Staff
1 Maelstrom Ice Staff
1 Maelstrom Restoration Staff
1 Master Inferno Staff
1 Asylum Inferno Staff
1 Inferno staff of Torug's Pact
4 pieces Wizard's Riposte (jewelry + staff)
Grand Repair kits
Potion of Spell Power
Essence of Magicka
Essence of Immovability
Keep Door Woodwork Repair Kit
Keep Wall Masonry Repair Kit
Longfin Pastry with Melon Sauce
Melon-Baked Parmesan Pork
Witchmother's Potent Brew
Grand Amnesty Edict
Counterfeit Pardon Edict
Lockpicks
Soul Gems
Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
Guild Tabard
Ancient Scales
Casserite Sand
Dried Blood
Iridium Grains
Malachite Shards
Platinum Dust
Pulverized Antimony
Pulverized Aurbic Amber
Pulverized Cobalt
Pulverized Dibellum
Pulverized Titanium
Raw Ancestor Silk
Rough Ruby Ash
Rubedite Ore
Rubedite Hide Scraps
Terne Grains
Zircon Grains
Chromium Grains
I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?
Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?
well just leave some spots open for trash and if they fill up send them to a friend or just delete them from your inventory. I mean you can even use an addon (if youre on PC) to do it for you automatically (dustman) according to your wishes... your writing is no excuse. because yes people like you with a full inventory also find the trash annoying which YOU are leaving. And I think it also hurts the respawn rate. Though I havent tested it with stuff in the nodes, but mats generelly respawn if there are less mat nodes around!
The moment you (or someone else) interacts with it, the respawn timer is set.I remember reading in zone chat when I first started (circa One Tamriel) that if you picked a flower but left the worms, the node would stay visually empty forever until someone stumbled upon the spot and picked up the worms you left behind. I never really gave it much thought once my bag got big enough, though I've never once stumbled on worms in a hole in the ground.Finally , someone who actually understands how chest respawns work!
Everything respawning on a timer would make a lot more sense.
I still find myself worrying that if I decide not to steal an obsidian stone from a wardrobe, because it's not worth the 1/1000 chance an NPC will pop up and catch me, that I'm leaving junk behind for the next thief forever. But if it just resets on a timer, then big whoop.
Regardless of whether you fully loot the node/chest/whatever or not.
So the worst that can happen is that you come across a chest that otherwise wouldn't even be there.
not true for mats as far as I am aware. They respawn on an amount of mats in the area not on a timer of a node themselves
prof-dracko wrote: »Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?
Neither. People usually farm for rare and expensive set items, so whether the chest is locked or not makes little difference.
It does, actually, because the respawn timer starts when the chest is opened, not when it's emptied.
Simply put, you're upset you found a chest with things you didn't want, when the alternative was not finding the chest at all.
Your feelings were hurt, but the chest will respawn properly even if there's stuff in it, after a while it will just disappear.
You're not going to lose anything, not skill points, not loot, as the chest wouldn't have respawned anyways.
Hope this helps.
Have a nice day.VaranisArano wrote: »SaxonCrusader wrote: »Anyone else have a better way of trying to comprehend what's going on? The passivity and awkwardly condescending politeness isn't really my cup of tea.
OP is really annoyed by people who leave their trash in chests instead of clearing them and wants them shamed and punished.
Personally, I find it annoying to run up to a chest only to find I'm getting no exp, no gold, and trash. I think the people who do that are jerks.
But I don't think they need to be punished. I just wish they would decide to be more polite and pick up after themselves.
I beg to differ
When 150 slots are reserved for PvE and PvP gear, and your bank is already full of stuff to deconstruct, stuff you're not sure it's going to be good next patch, but someone told you it will, and your mules with stuff you crafted to try out, yeah, it's not.
I have 8 toons, and 6 of them only have less than 10 free slots at all times.
Not one of them has trash, only keeping pieces I need to transmute, rings to deconstruct, mats to upgrade...
Oh, right, not everyone can afford to sub for crafting bags, I suppose that's my fault as well ?
Enjoy the worms and the training blue rubedite swords.Androconium wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »my bad my bags are just always full and its a pain to go delete like 3 things for trash
Full of what?
oh dear, my inventory is full! whatever shall I do? I know!! I'll go open a few treasure chests!!!111ioneone
not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):
5 pieces Mother Sorrow (body)
5 pieces Master Architect (body)
4 pieces Master Architect (jewelry + staff)
2 pieces Grothdarr
4 pieces Valkyn Skoria (2 divines, 2 impen)
2 pieces Zaan (2 impen)
2 pieces Ilambris
5 pieces Impregnable (body)
5 piece Impregnable (jewelry + 2 staves)
5 pieces Vicious Death (jewelry + staff + greatsword)
5 pieces Livewire (body)
5 pieces Bahraha's curse (jewelry + shield + axe)
2 pieces Molag Kena
2 pieces Swarm Mother
2 pieces Master Shield+Master Sword
2 pieces Maelstrom Shield + Maelstrom Sword
2 pieces Troll King
5 pieces War Maiden (body)
4 pieces Moondancer (jewelry + staff)
4 pieces Infallible Aether (jewelry + staff)
3 pieces Willpower (jewelry)
1 Maelstrom Inferno Staff
1 Maelstrom Lightning Staff
1 Maelstrom Ice Staff
1 Maelstrom Restoration Staff
1 Master Inferno Staff
1 Asylum Inferno Staff
1 Inferno staff of Torug's Pact
4 pieces Wizard's Riposte (jewelry + staff)
Grand Repair kits
Potion of Spell Power
Essence of Magicka
Essence of Immovability
Keep Door Woodwork Repair Kit
Keep Wall Masonry Repair Kit
Longfin Pastry with Melon Sauce
Melon-Baked Parmesan Pork
Witchmother's Potent Brew
Grand Amnesty Edict
Counterfeit Pardon Edict
Lockpicks
Soul Gems
Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
Guild Tabard
Ancient Scales
Casserite Sand
Dried Blood
Iridium Grains
Malachite Shards
Platinum Dust
Pulverized Antimony
Pulverized Aurbic Amber
Pulverized Cobalt
Pulverized Dibellum
Pulverized Titanium
Raw Ancestor Silk
Rough Ruby Ash
Rubedite Ore
Rubedite Hide Scraps
Terne Grains
Zircon Grains
Chromium Grains
I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?
Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?
well just leave some spots open for trash and if they fill up send them to a friend or just delete them from your inventory. I mean you can even use an addon (if youre on PC) to do it for you automatically (dustman) according to your wishes... your writing is no excuse. because yes people like you with a full inventory also find the trash annoying which YOU are leaving. And I think it also hurts the respawn rate. Though I havent tested it with stuff in the nodes, but mats generelly respawn if there are less mat nodes around!
Whether I pick up the trash or not, the chest is going to respawn in the same amount of time.
I have nothing to excuse, because the chest is going to respawn anyways. By leaving the stuff in I'm not going to prevent it from respawning.
It doesn't hurt the respawn rate, nor the respawn time, it only hurts your feelings.
Once you open the container (nodes, chests) the respawn timer starts. The respawn timer for that container is longer than the destruction timer, but they are not dependent on each other. It's not going to respawn faster if you pick everything up.
The reason why everyone makes such a big deal out of it is because they try to open the chest with high expectations, hoping to find who knows what treasure, and they get disappointed when they don't find anything.
Have a nice day.
prof-dracko wrote: »Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?
Neither. People usually farm for rare and expensive set items, so whether the chest is locked or not makes little difference.
It does, actually, because the respawn timer starts when the chest is opened, not when it's emptied.
Simply put, you're upset you found a chest with things you didn't want, when the alternative was not finding the chest at all.
Your feelings were hurt, but the chest will respawn properly even if there's stuff in it, after a while it will just disappear.
You're not going to lose anything, not skill points, not loot, as the chest wouldn't have respawned anyways.
Hope this helps.
Have a nice day.VaranisArano wrote: »SaxonCrusader wrote: »Anyone else have a better way of trying to comprehend what's going on? The passivity and awkwardly condescending politeness isn't really my cup of tea.
OP is really annoyed by people who leave their trash in chests instead of clearing them and wants them shamed and punished.
Personally, I find it annoying to run up to a chest only to find I'm getting no exp, no gold, and trash. I think the people who do that are jerks.
But I don't think they need to be punished. I just wish they would decide to be more polite and pick up after themselves.
I beg to differ
When 150 slots are reserved for PvE and PvP gear, and your bank is already full of stuff to deconstruct, stuff you're not sure it's going to be good next patch, but someone told you it will, and your mules with stuff you crafted to try out, yeah, it's not.
I have 8 toons, and 6 of them only have less than 10 free slots at all times.
Not one of them has trash, only keeping pieces I need to transmute, rings to deconstruct, mats to upgrade...
Oh, right, not everyone can afford to sub for crafting bags, I suppose that's my fault as well ?
Enjoy the worms and the training blue rubedite swords.Androconium wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »my bad my bags are just always full and its a pain to go delete like 3 things for trash
Full of what?
oh dear, my inventory is full! whatever shall I do? I know!! I'll go open a few treasure chests!!!111ioneone
not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):
5 pieces Mother Sorrow (body)
5 pieces Master Architect (body)
4 pieces Master Architect (jewelry + staff)
2 pieces Grothdarr
4 pieces Valkyn Skoria (2 divines, 2 impen)
2 pieces Zaan (2 impen)
2 pieces Ilambris
5 pieces Impregnable (body)
5 piece Impregnable (jewelry + 2 staves)
5 pieces Vicious Death (jewelry + staff + greatsword)
5 pieces Livewire (body)
5 pieces Bahraha's curse (jewelry + shield + axe)
2 pieces Molag Kena
2 pieces Swarm Mother
2 pieces Master Shield+Master Sword
2 pieces Maelstrom Shield + Maelstrom Sword
2 pieces Troll King
5 pieces War Maiden (body)
4 pieces Moondancer (jewelry + staff)
4 pieces Infallible Aether (jewelry + staff)
3 pieces Willpower (jewelry)
1 Maelstrom Inferno Staff
1 Maelstrom Lightning Staff
1 Maelstrom Ice Staff
1 Maelstrom Restoration Staff
1 Master Inferno Staff
1 Asylum Inferno Staff
1 Inferno staff of Torug's Pact
4 pieces Wizard's Riposte (jewelry + staff)
Grand Repair kits
Potion of Spell Power
Essence of Magicka
Essence of Immovability
Keep Door Woodwork Repair Kit
Keep Wall Masonry Repair Kit
Longfin Pastry with Melon Sauce
Melon-Baked Parmesan Pork
Witchmother's Potent Brew
Grand Amnesty Edict
Counterfeit Pardon Edict
Lockpicks
Soul Gems
Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
Guild Tabard
Ancient Scales
Casserite Sand
Dried Blood
Iridium Grains
Malachite Shards
Platinum Dust
Pulverized Antimony
Pulverized Aurbic Amber
Pulverized Cobalt
Pulverized Dibellum
Pulverized Titanium
Raw Ancestor Silk
Rough Ruby Ash
Rubedite Ore
Rubedite Hide Scraps
Terne Grains
Zircon Grains
Chromium Grains
I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?
Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?
well just leave some spots open for trash and if they fill up send them to a friend or just delete them from your inventory. I mean you can even use an addon (if youre on PC) to do it for you automatically (dustman) according to your wishes... your writing is no excuse. because yes people like you with a full inventory also find the trash annoying which YOU are leaving. And I think it also hurts the respawn rate. Though I havent tested it with stuff in the nodes, but mats generelly respawn if there are less mat nodes around!
Whether I pick up the trash or not, the chest is going to respawn in the same amount of time.
I have nothing to excuse, because the chest is going to respawn anyways. By leaving the stuff in I'm not going to prevent it from respawning.
It doesn't hurt the respawn rate, nor the respawn time, it only hurts your feelings.
Once you open the container (nodes, chests) the respawn timer starts. The respawn timer for that container is longer than the destruction timer, but they are not dependent on each other. It's not going to respawn faster if you pick everything up.
The reason why everyone makes such a big deal out of it is because they try to open the chest with high expectations, hoping to find who knows what treasure, and they get disappointed when they don't find anything.
Have a nice day.
well no. I dont know how the chests timer works. But I was talking about crafting nodes. There is no classic respawn timer. If a node respawns is dependend on the amount of -active- nodes around that one (probably in the same category, but seems more like every type). The question being: is a half looted crafting node still counted as active? I believe it is. But I can test it out on my favourite dense-node spot in bleakrock, where the clearing of nodes is in perfect balance with the circle you walk. Well actually no, I can't test it because I am a casual player but still own the crafting bag. Leaving garbage because you have limited inventory space for other people with also limited inventory space, when you can easily just delete stuff is still annoying and rude anyway.
prof-dracko wrote: »Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?
Neither. People usually farm for rare and expensive set items, so whether the chest is locked or not makes little difference.
It does, actually, because the respawn timer starts when the chest is opened, not when it's emptied.
Simply put, you're upset you found a chest with things you didn't want, when the alternative was not finding the chest at all.
Your feelings were hurt, but the chest will respawn properly even if there's stuff in it, after a while it will just disappear.
You're not going to lose anything, not skill points, not loot, as the chest wouldn't have respawned anyways.
Hope this helps.
Have a nice day.VaranisArano wrote: »SaxonCrusader wrote: »Anyone else have a better way of trying to comprehend what's going on? The passivity and awkwardly condescending politeness isn't really my cup of tea.
OP is really annoyed by people who leave their trash in chests instead of clearing them and wants them shamed and punished.
Personally, I find it annoying to run up to a chest only to find I'm getting no exp, no gold, and trash. I think the people who do that are jerks.
But I don't think they need to be punished. I just wish they would decide to be more polite and pick up after themselves.
I beg to differ
When 150 slots are reserved for PvE and PvP gear, and your bank is already full of stuff to deconstruct, stuff you're not sure it's going to be good next patch, but someone told you it will, and your mules with stuff you crafted to try out, yeah, it's not.
I have 8 toons, and 6 of them only have less than 10 free slots at all times.
Not one of them has trash, only keeping pieces I need to transmute, rings to deconstruct, mats to upgrade...
Oh, right, not everyone can afford to sub for crafting bags, I suppose that's my fault as well ?
Enjoy the worms and the training blue rubedite swords.Androconium wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »my bad my bags are just always full and its a pain to go delete like 3 things for trash
Full of what?
oh dear, my inventory is full! whatever shall I do? I know!! I'll go open a few treasure chests!!!111ioneone
not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):
5 pieces Mother Sorrow (body)
5 pieces Master Architect (body)
4 pieces Master Architect (jewelry + staff)
2 pieces Grothdarr
4 pieces Valkyn Skoria (2 divines, 2 impen)
2 pieces Zaan (2 impen)
2 pieces Ilambris
5 pieces Impregnable (body)
5 piece Impregnable (jewelry + 2 staves)
5 pieces Vicious Death (jewelry + staff + greatsword)
5 pieces Livewire (body)
5 pieces Bahraha's curse (jewelry + shield + axe)
2 pieces Molag Kena
2 pieces Swarm Mother
2 pieces Master Shield+Master Sword
2 pieces Maelstrom Shield + Maelstrom Sword
2 pieces Troll King
5 pieces War Maiden (body)
4 pieces Moondancer (jewelry + staff)
4 pieces Infallible Aether (jewelry + staff)
3 pieces Willpower (jewelry)
1 Maelstrom Inferno Staff
1 Maelstrom Lightning Staff
1 Maelstrom Ice Staff
1 Maelstrom Restoration Staff
1 Master Inferno Staff
1 Asylum Inferno Staff
1 Inferno staff of Torug's Pact
4 pieces Wizard's Riposte (jewelry + staff)
Grand Repair kits
Potion of Spell Power
Essence of Magicka
Essence of Immovability
Keep Door Woodwork Repair Kit
Keep Wall Masonry Repair Kit
Longfin Pastry with Melon Sauce
Melon-Baked Parmesan Pork
Witchmother's Potent Brew
Grand Amnesty Edict
Counterfeit Pardon Edict
Lockpicks
Soul Gems
Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
Guild Tabard
Ancient Scales
Casserite Sand
Dried Blood
Iridium Grains
Malachite Shards
Platinum Dust
Pulverized Antimony
Pulverized Aurbic Amber
Pulverized Cobalt
Pulverized Dibellum
Pulverized Titanium
Raw Ancestor Silk
Rough Ruby Ash
Rubedite Ore
Rubedite Hide Scraps
Terne Grains
Zircon Grains
Chromium Grains
I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?
Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?
well just leave some spots open for trash and if they fill up send them to a friend or just delete them from your inventory. I mean you can even use an addon (if youre on PC) to do it for you automatically (dustman) according to your wishes... your writing is no excuse. because yes people like you with a full inventory also find the trash annoying which YOU are leaving. And I think it also hurts the respawn rate. Though I havent tested it with stuff in the nodes, but mats generelly respawn if there are less mat nodes around!
Whether I pick up the trash or not, the chest is going to respawn in the same amount of time.
I have nothing to excuse, because the chest is going to respawn anyways. By leaving the stuff in I'm not going to prevent it from respawning.
It doesn't hurt the respawn rate, nor the respawn time, it only hurts your feelings.
Once you open the container (nodes, chests) the respawn timer starts. The respawn timer for that container is longer than the destruction timer, but they are not dependent on each other. It's not going to respawn faster if you pick everything up.
The reason why everyone makes such a big deal out of it is because they try to open the chest with high expectations, hoping to find who knows what treasure, and they get disappointed when they don't find anything.
Have a nice day.
well no. I dont know how the chests timer works. But I was talking about crafting nodes. There is no classic respawn timer. If a node respawns is dependend on the amount of -active- nodes around that one (probably in the same category, but seems more like every type). The question being: is a half looted crafting node still counted as active? I believe it is. But I can test it out on my favourite dense-node spot in bleakrock, where the clearing of nodes is in perfect balance with the circle you walk. Well actually no, I can't test it because I am a casual player but still own the crafting bag. Leaving garbage because you have limited inventory space for other people with also limited inventory space, when you can easily just delete stuff is still annoying and rude anyway.
Destroying the trash every time I pick something up is annoying for me as well, as I have to open the inventory, select destroy, confirm, then repeat for every other item, a task that takes from 10 to 20 seconds, while for you, you just have to ignore them: 0 seconds.
Considering I work for a living, and I have limited time to play, no, I'm sorry. You think I'm rude ? Well, I'm gonna cry myself to sleep tonight, and then get over it in the morning.
Have a nice day.
My mommy always says that only bad people don't share their loot. But I'm a good boy! Therefore I couldn't care less if there are other people farming in this zone and I will call them all the dirty names I know if they only dare to stand between me and fun. Especially, if they speak to me politely!
Actually, few of said names were quite a finding to me, so I have memorized them for further usage.
That aside, I really do wonder if there is an option to penalize this kind of behaviour in game. I mean, reporting people for throwing mud balls surely feels nice, but it's a bit too harsh — if you do it in the wrong time and to the wrong category, they can really get banned. I say, we could have a better solution than swallowing them bitter tears of despair and ban-hammering each other to near-death state.
How do you feel about a set of not-so-subtle in-game restrictions?
Let's say, Jimmy has a weekend and no brakes when it comes to getting at people's nerves. He gets reported to the category of "inappropriate behaviour v.2" once, then twice more and the day after the boy discovers his own mount stripped of 20 levels of speed. Or that he can't sell items at guild stores for a certain period of time. Or that a blazing mark saying "I'M A BAD BOY, DON'T GO NEAR ME" appears over heads of all his characters and follows them to the very character selection menu. The latter would be really nice, in my opinion. Appropriate, too.
And please, don't think that I simply needed to vent — I have been doing that for an hour prior to visiting the forum — it's just some people really ask for several lessons of good manners. And one can only tolerate so much of inhumane behaviour before attempting to fight the fire with fire.
prof-dracko wrote: »Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?
Neither. People usually farm for rare and expensive set items, so whether the chest is locked or not makes little difference.
It does, actually, because the respawn timer starts when the chest is opened, not when it's emptied.
Simply put, you're upset you found a chest with things you didn't want, when the alternative was not finding the chest at all.
Your feelings were hurt, but the chest will respawn properly even if there's stuff in it, after a while it will just disappear.
You're not going to lose anything, not skill points, not loot, as the chest wouldn't have respawned anyways.
Hope this helps.
Have a nice day.VaranisArano wrote: »SaxonCrusader wrote: »Anyone else have a better way of trying to comprehend what's going on? The passivity and awkwardly condescending politeness isn't really my cup of tea.
OP is really annoyed by people who leave their trash in chests instead of clearing them and wants them shamed and punished.
Personally, I find it annoying to run up to a chest only to find I'm getting no exp, no gold, and trash. I think the people who do that are jerks.
But I don't think they need to be punished. I just wish they would decide to be more polite and pick up after themselves.
I beg to differ
When 150 slots are reserved for PvE and PvP gear, and your bank is already full of stuff to deconstruct, stuff you're not sure it's going to be good next patch, but someone told you it will, and your mules with stuff you crafted to try out, yeah, it's not.
I have 8 toons, and 6 of them only have less than 10 free slots at all times.
Not one of them has trash, only keeping pieces I need to transmute, rings to deconstruct, mats to upgrade...
Oh, right, not everyone can afford to sub for crafting bags, I suppose that's my fault as well ?
Enjoy the worms and the training blue rubedite swords.Androconium wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »my bad my bags are just always full and its a pain to go delete like 3 things for trash
Full of what?
oh dear, my inventory is full! whatever shall I do? I know!! I'll go open a few treasure chests!!!111ioneone
not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):
5 pieces Mother Sorrow (body)
5 pieces Master Architect (body)
4 pieces Master Architect (jewelry + staff)
2 pieces Grothdarr
4 pieces Valkyn Skoria (2 divines, 2 impen)
2 pieces Zaan (2 impen)
2 pieces Ilambris
5 pieces Impregnable (body)
5 piece Impregnable (jewelry + 2 staves)
5 pieces Vicious Death (jewelry + staff + greatsword)
5 pieces Livewire (body)
5 pieces Bahraha's curse (jewelry + shield + axe)
2 pieces Molag Kena
2 pieces Swarm Mother
2 pieces Master Shield+Master Sword
2 pieces Maelstrom Shield + Maelstrom Sword
2 pieces Troll King
5 pieces War Maiden (body)
4 pieces Moondancer (jewelry + staff)
4 pieces Infallible Aether (jewelry + staff)
3 pieces Willpower (jewelry)
1 Maelstrom Inferno Staff
1 Maelstrom Lightning Staff
1 Maelstrom Ice Staff
1 Maelstrom Restoration Staff
1 Master Inferno Staff
1 Asylum Inferno Staff
1 Inferno staff of Torug's Pact
4 pieces Wizard's Riposte (jewelry + staff)
Grand Repair kits
Potion of Spell Power
Essence of Magicka
Essence of Immovability
Keep Door Woodwork Repair Kit
Keep Wall Masonry Repair Kit
Longfin Pastry with Melon Sauce
Melon-Baked Parmesan Pork
Witchmother's Potent Brew
Grand Amnesty Edict
Counterfeit Pardon Edict
Lockpicks
Soul Gems
Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
Guild Tabard
Ancient Scales
Casserite Sand
Dried Blood
Iridium Grains
Malachite Shards
Platinum Dust
Pulverized Antimony
Pulverized Aurbic Amber
Pulverized Cobalt
Pulverized Dibellum
Pulverized Titanium
Raw Ancestor Silk
Rough Ruby Ash
Rubedite Ore
Rubedite Hide Scraps
Terne Grains
Zircon Grains
Chromium Grains
I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?
Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?
well just leave some spots open for trash and if they fill up send them to a friend or just delete them from your inventory. I mean you can even use an addon (if youre on PC) to do it for you automatically (dustman) according to your wishes... your writing is no excuse. because yes people like you with a full inventory also find the trash annoying which YOU are leaving. And I think it also hurts the respawn rate. Though I havent tested it with stuff in the nodes, but mats generelly respawn if there are less mat nodes around!
Whether I pick up the trash or not, the chest is going to respawn in the same amount of time.
I have nothing to excuse, because the chest is going to respawn anyways. By leaving the stuff in I'm not going to prevent it from respawning.
It doesn't hurt the respawn rate, nor the respawn time, it only hurts your feelings.
Once you open the container (nodes, chests) the respawn timer starts. The respawn timer for that container is longer than the destruction timer, but they are not dependent on each other. It's not going to respawn faster if you pick everything up.
The reason why everyone makes such a big deal out of it is because they try to open the chest with high expectations, hoping to find who knows what treasure, and they get disappointed when they don't find anything.
Have a nice day.
well no. I dont know how the chests timer works. But I was talking about crafting nodes. There is no classic respawn timer. If a node respawns is dependend on the amount of -active- nodes around that one (probably in the same category, but seems more like every type). The question being: is a half looted crafting node still counted as active? I believe it is. But I can test it out on my favourite dense-node spot in bleakrock, where the clearing of nodes is in perfect balance with the circle you walk. Well actually no, I can't test it because I am a casual player but still own the crafting bag. Leaving garbage because you have limited inventory space for other people with also limited inventory space, when you can easily just delete stuff is still annoying and rude anyway.
Destroying the trash every time I pick something up is annoying for me as well, as I have to open the inventory, select destroy, confirm, then repeat for every other item, a task that takes from 10 to 20 seconds, while for you, you just have to ignore them: 0 seconds.
Considering I work for a living, and I have limited time to play, no, I'm sorry. You think I'm rude ? Well, I'm gonna cry myself to sleep tonight, and then get over it in the morning.
Have a nice day.
you play on PC, so you can just let dustman do the destroying automatically.
Also, yes I think you are rude and selfish, especially in your post above. Having limited time to play, having a job, as do I both, is no excuse for anyone for being rude and I dont know what it has to do with it.
You cant see from a distance if its half emtpy, it still takes the same amount for someone else to open the node.