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  • primethief147
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    Ok so im seeing conflicting reports about chest respawns. If the case is that all chests have the same respawn timer regardless of being emptied or not isn't it more convenient for people to leave stuff behind signifying that someone was there? If the respawn timers are not the same then sure you have an argument, but if your wrong all your complaining about is that someone reached the chest before you did.
  • bearbelly
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    Conan776 wrote: »
    SirAndy wrote: »
    Finally , someone who actually understands how chest respawns work!
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    I still find myself worrying that if I decide not to steal an obsidian stone from a wardrobe, because it's not worth the 1/1000 chance an NPC will pop up and catch me, that I'm leaving junk behind for the next thief forever.
    But if it just resets on a timer, then big whoop.

    Yeah, I'm kinda of the same mind now (big whoop).
    I skipped over a couple of pages yesterday, and rather, just responded to what I had already read.
    Seems I missed some totally relevant info.

    I didn't realize they were on re-spawn timers, and in fixed spots.
    Perspective: somewhat changed. (Intentional dickishness just to mess with people is still an exception.)

    Edited by bearbelly on October 8, 2018 1:48PM
  • Glurin
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    Ok so im seeing conflicting reports about chest respawns. If the case is that all chests have the same respawn timer regardless of being emptied or not isn't it more convenient for people to leave stuff behind signifying that someone was there? If the respawn timers are not the same then sure you have an argument, but if your wrong all your complaining about is that someone reached the chest before you did.

    Nah. Why would I need to know someone was already there? It's pretty obvious that's the case when the chest is missing anyway.

    Leaving stuff behind isn't a big deal. It's just annoying and rude. I see a chest, I change course, clear away any mobs nearby, and then find out that the chest is nothing more than somebody's litter. If the chest had been properly looted then I wouldn't have wasted my time getting to it. That's all. Kinda like spotting a $20 on the ground only to find out it's monopoly money after you pick it up.
    Edited by Glurin on October 8, 2018 11:19AM
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  • jainiadral
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    !@$#@#$@#$@# I swear, calling out this kind of jerk behavior on the forums seems to have only made it worse in game. Just had some @#$@#$@#$ dump an enemy on me as I was trying to open a chest, then he stole it out from under me. This is the first time I've had this happen to me during the weird hours I play. I've come across more junk chest leavings in the last couple of days than I have during my last three months playing the game. :#

    What is wrong with people?

    Between this thread and the other one about guild log tools, I weep for humanity. The fact that people can't seem to grasp the basic concept of courtesy is utterly astounding-- and the fact that people have had to explain the concept here frightens me. Seriously, courtesy is the cornerstone of human civilization and one of the few things we have as a species that keeps us from killing each other. Stop being barbarians and start being civilized! It's not that hard. It might even--gasp!--make people less "antisocial." <---I'd argue leaving chest crap behind is antisocial-- the rest of us lone wolves are asocial, but whatever.
  • primethief147
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    Glurin wrote: »
    Ok so im seeing conflicting reports about chest respawns. If the case is that all chests have the same respawn timer regardless of being emptied or not isn't it more convenient for people to leave stuff behind signifying that someone was there? If the respawn timers are not the same then sure you have an argument, but if your wrong all your complaining about is that someone reached the chest before you did.

    Nah. Why would I need to know someone was already there? It's pretty obvious that's the case when the chest is missing anyway.

    Leaving stuff behind isn't a big deal. It's just annoying and rude. I see a chest, I change course, clear away any mobs nearby, and then find out that the chest is nothing more than somebody's litter. If the chest had been properly looted then I wouldn't have wasted my time getting to it. That's all. Kinda like spotting a $20 on the ground only to find out it's monopoly money after you pick it up.

    Ill be honest im still not seeing the problem. It takes not even 5-10 seconds to kill the at worst 3 npc's. Come to think off it it takes about the same amount of time (more depending on how much is in their inventory) to go find then delete those garbage items. Worse things have happend in ESO. Is it annoying? Sure. Then again its annoying when someone interrupts my npc murder loot routine by killing npc's in my route, but I continue regardless.
  • Jimmy
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    I've never left a chest open.
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  • Aisle9
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    Snaekd wrote: »
    Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?

    Neither. People usually farm for rare and expensive set items, so whether the chest is locked or not makes little difference.

    It does, actually, because the respawn timer starts when the chest is opened, not when it's emptied.

    Simply put, you're upset you found a chest with things you didn't want, when the alternative was not finding the chest at all.

    Your feelings were hurt, but the chest will respawn properly even if there's stuff in it, after a while it will just disappear.

    You're not going to lose anything, not skill points, not loot, as the chest wouldn't have respawned anyways.

    Hope this helps.
    Have a nice day.

    Anyone else have a better way of trying to comprehend what's going on? The passivity and awkwardly condescending politeness isn't really my cup of tea.

    OP is really annoyed by people who leave their trash in chests instead of clearing them and wants them shamed and punished.

    Personally, I find it annoying to run up to a chest only to find I'm getting no exp, no gold, and trash. I think the people who do that are jerks.

    But I don't think they need to be punished. I just wish they would decide to be more polite and pick up after themselves.

    I beg to differ

    When 150 slots are reserved for PvE and PvP gear, and your bank is already full of stuff to deconstruct, stuff you're not sure it's going to be good next patch, but someone told you it will, and your mules with stuff you crafted to try out, yeah, it's not.

    I have 8 toons, and 6 of them only have less than 10 free slots at all times.

    Not one of them has trash, only keeping pieces I need to transmute, rings to deconstruct, mats to upgrade...

    Oh, right, not everyone can afford to sub for crafting bags, I suppose that's my fault as well ?

    Enjoy the worms and the training blue rubedite swords.

    my bad my bags are just always full and its a pain to go delete like 3 things for trash

    Full of what?

    oh dear, my inventory is full! whatever shall I do? I know!! I'll go open a few treasure chests!!!111ioneone

    not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):

    5 pieces Mother Sorrow (body)
    5 pieces Master Architect (body)
    4 pieces Master Architect (jewelry + staff)
    2 pieces Grothdarr
    4 pieces Valkyn Skoria (2 divines, 2 impen)
    2 pieces Zaan (2 impen)
    2 pieces Ilambris
    5 pieces Impregnable (body)
    5 piece Impregnable (jewelry + 2 staves)
    5 pieces Vicious Death (jewelry + staff + greatsword)
    5 pieces Livewire (body)
    5 pieces Bahraha's curse (jewelry + shield + axe)
    2 pieces Molag Kena
    2 pieces Swarm Mother
    2 pieces Master Shield+Master Sword
    2 pieces Maelstrom Shield + Maelstrom Sword
    2 pieces Troll King
    5 pieces War Maiden (body)
    4 pieces Moondancer (jewelry + staff)
    4 pieces Infallible Aether (jewelry + staff)
    3 pieces Willpower (jewelry)
    1 Maelstrom Inferno Staff
    1 Maelstrom Lightning Staff
    1 Maelstrom Ice Staff
    1 Maelstrom Restoration Staff
    1 Master Inferno Staff
    1 Asylum Inferno Staff
    1 Inferno staff of Torug's Pact
    4 pieces Wizard's Riposte (jewelry + staff)
    Grand Repair kits
    Potion of Spell Power
    Essence of Magicka
    Essence of Immovability
    Keep Door Woodwork Repair Kit
    Keep Wall Masonry Repair Kit
    Longfin Pastry with Melon Sauce
    Melon-Baked Parmesan Pork
    Witchmother's Potent Brew
    Grand Amnesty Edict
    Counterfeit Pardon Edict
    Lockpicks
    Soul Gems
    Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
    Guild Tabard
    Ancient Scales
    Casserite Sand
    Dried Blood
    Iridium Grains
    Malachite Shards
    Platinum Dust
    Pulverized Antimony
    Pulverized Aurbic Amber
    Pulverized Cobalt
    Pulverized Dibellum
    Pulverized Titanium
    Raw Ancestor Silk
    Rough Ruby Ash
    Rubedite Ore
    Rubedite Hide Scraps
    Terne Grains
    Zircon Grains
    Chromium Grains

    I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?

    Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?

    Edited by Aisle9 on October 8, 2018 12:34PM
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  • bearbelly
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    jainiadral wrote: »
    Just had some @#$@#$@#$ dump an enemy on me as I was trying to open a chest, then he stole it out from under me.

    Stuff like that is a caveat to the change in my perspective mentioned above.

    Running around purposely being a jerk because you get-off on causing grief for other people is just childish.

    But I feel the only cure for this pervasive lack of courtesy, since, as you say, bringing it up only serves to incite people to intensify that behavior, is an extinction-level event. Humanity, as a whole, isn't mature enough to change on its own, for its own sake.

    Just my asocial lone wolf two gp.

  • Hoolielulu
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    Every time I see a post like this, I leave a few chests open

    Just like every time I see a post about the moral horrors of killing npc's I kill a whole bunch of npc's.
  • Kuramas9tails
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    I am surprised how many people don't get what you are saying.

    ZOS should simply refresh the node when the original player to touch it is out of range.
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    • albesca
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      Aisle9 wrote: »
      not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):
      (...)
      Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
      (...)
      I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?

      Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?

      True professionals always carry a copy of that, I'm sure.
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    • Gargath
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      I hate when I find a chest (also multiple of these in farming area) and there are only single rubbish style stone left inside. Sometimes it forces me to send a note to chat like a noob player warning, leaving trash all around. I hate when people's fun spoils my own fun. I never leave anything in chests, even when my alt has a full 80 pts inventory and no craft bag.

      A simple solution, make the lootable items from a chest a single bag or something, like the rewards of the worthy. We find it inside chest, loot it as 1 pc. and then open from inventory and in this moment the RNG works.
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    • Aisle9
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      albesca wrote: »
      Aisle9 wrote: »
      not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):
      (...)
      Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
      (...)
      I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?

      Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?

      True professionals always carry a copy of that, I'm sure.

      They do, actually, it's a .01% dps increase

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      Hold-Many-Bags - Mule DK, Promoted to main tank, occasionally stamDD
      Olaf Proudstache - Mule - No longer with us Now a Stamwarden healer
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    • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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      Leaving nodes and chests with junk in them use to bother me. Now it does not bother me at all. Some people have limited space to pick up the best items so they leave stuff in the chests and nodes. The nodes and chests still respawn in their allotted time whether or not cleared out.

      So I now look at it t his way: "Saves me time and I get free stuff" and move on.
    • lientier
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      *delete*double
      Edited by lientier on October 8, 2018 2:34PM
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    • SaxonCrusader
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      Jimmy wrote: »
      I've never left a chest open.

      I reckon you've just been exposed mate.
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    • lientier
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      bearbelly wrote: »
      Conan776 wrote: »
      SirAndy wrote: »
      Finally , someone who actually understands how chest respawns work!
      thumb3d.gif

      I still find myself worrying that if I decide not to steal an obsidian stone from a wardrobe, because it's not worth the 1/1000 chance an NPC will pop up and catch me, that I'm leaving junk behind for the next thief forever.
      But if it just resets on a timer, then big whoop.

      Yeah, I'm kinda of the same mind now (big whoop).
      I skipped over a couple of pages yesterday, and rather, just responded to what I had already read.
      Seems I missed some totally relevant info.

      I didn't realize they were on re-spawn timers, and in fixed spots.
      Perspective: somewhat changed. (Intentional dickishness just to mess with people is still an exception.)

      furniture and backpacks are only for the player him- of herself. They are not shared, everybody finds differnet stuff in them. And if you loot them, they are still full for someone else.
      Only treasure chestst and heavy sacks and crafting nodes are shared
      Edited by lientier on October 8, 2018 2:37PM
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    • DanteYoda
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      I think Jimmy needs to buy ESO+ so he gets more bag space..
      max_only wrote: »
      Conan776 wrote: »
      SirAndy wrote: »
      Finally , someone who actually understands how chest respawns work!
      thumb3d.gif

      I remember reading in zone chat when I first started (circa One Tamriel) that if you picked a flower but left the worms, the node would stay visually empty forever until someone stumbled upon the spot and picked up the worms you left behind. I never really gave it much thought once my bag got big enough, though I've never once stumbled on worms in a hole in the ground.

      Everything respawning on a timer would make a lot more sense.

      I still find myself worrying that if I decide not to steal an obsidian stone from a wardrobe, because it's not worth the 1/1000 chance an NPC will pop up and catch me, that I'm leaving junk behind for the next thief forever. But if it just resets on a timer, then big whoop.

      Wardrobes are different from crafting nodes. Every backpack, nightstand, barrel, sack, or “common container” is instanced to each player. If you open up a warderobe and see a recipe, if I’m standing next to you and open up the same wardrobe, I will see something different.

      So.... Why the hell didn't they make chests and troves like that?
      Edited by DanteYoda on October 8, 2018 2:39PM
    • lientier
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      Aisle9 wrote: »
      Snaekd wrote: »
      Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?

      Neither. People usually farm for rare and expensive set items, so whether the chest is locked or not makes little difference.

      It does, actually, because the respawn timer starts when the chest is opened, not when it's emptied.

      Simply put, you're upset you found a chest with things you didn't want, when the alternative was not finding the chest at all.

      Your feelings were hurt, but the chest will respawn properly even if there's stuff in it, after a while it will just disappear.

      You're not going to lose anything, not skill points, not loot, as the chest wouldn't have respawned anyways.

      Hope this helps.
      Have a nice day.

      Anyone else have a better way of trying to comprehend what's going on? The passivity and awkwardly condescending politeness isn't really my cup of tea.

      OP is really annoyed by people who leave their trash in chests instead of clearing them and wants them shamed and punished.

      Personally, I find it annoying to run up to a chest only to find I'm getting no exp, no gold, and trash. I think the people who do that are jerks.

      But I don't think they need to be punished. I just wish they would decide to be more polite and pick up after themselves.

      I beg to differ

      When 150 slots are reserved for PvE and PvP gear, and your bank is already full of stuff to deconstruct, stuff you're not sure it's going to be good next patch, but someone told you it will, and your mules with stuff you crafted to try out, yeah, it's not.

      I have 8 toons, and 6 of them only have less than 10 free slots at all times.

      Not one of them has trash, only keeping pieces I need to transmute, rings to deconstruct, mats to upgrade...

      Oh, right, not everyone can afford to sub for crafting bags, I suppose that's my fault as well ?

      Enjoy the worms and the training blue rubedite swords.

      my bad my bags are just always full and its a pain to go delete like 3 things for trash

      Full of what?

      oh dear, my inventory is full! whatever shall I do? I know!! I'll go open a few treasure chests!!!111ioneone

      not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):

      5 pieces Mother Sorrow (body)
      5 pieces Master Architect (body)
      4 pieces Master Architect (jewelry + staff)
      2 pieces Grothdarr
      4 pieces Valkyn Skoria (2 divines, 2 impen)
      2 pieces Zaan (2 impen)
      2 pieces Ilambris
      5 pieces Impregnable (body)
      5 piece Impregnable (jewelry + 2 staves)
      5 pieces Vicious Death (jewelry + staff + greatsword)
      5 pieces Livewire (body)
      5 pieces Bahraha's curse (jewelry + shield + axe)
      2 pieces Molag Kena
      2 pieces Swarm Mother
      2 pieces Master Shield+Master Sword
      2 pieces Maelstrom Shield + Maelstrom Sword
      2 pieces Troll King
      5 pieces War Maiden (body)
      4 pieces Moondancer (jewelry + staff)
      4 pieces Infallible Aether (jewelry + staff)
      3 pieces Willpower (jewelry)
      1 Maelstrom Inferno Staff
      1 Maelstrom Lightning Staff
      1 Maelstrom Ice Staff
      1 Maelstrom Restoration Staff
      1 Master Inferno Staff
      1 Asylum Inferno Staff
      1 Inferno staff of Torug's Pact
      4 pieces Wizard's Riposte (jewelry + staff)
      Grand Repair kits
      Potion of Spell Power
      Essence of Magicka
      Essence of Immovability
      Keep Door Woodwork Repair Kit
      Keep Wall Masonry Repair Kit
      Longfin Pastry with Melon Sauce
      Melon-Baked Parmesan Pork
      Witchmother's Potent Brew
      Grand Amnesty Edict
      Counterfeit Pardon Edict
      Lockpicks
      Soul Gems
      Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
      Guild Tabard
      Ancient Scales
      Casserite Sand
      Dried Blood
      Iridium Grains
      Malachite Shards
      Platinum Dust
      Pulverized Antimony
      Pulverized Aurbic Amber
      Pulverized Cobalt
      Pulverized Dibellum
      Pulverized Titanium
      Raw Ancestor Silk
      Rough Ruby Ash
      Rubedite Ore
      Rubedite Hide Scraps
      Terne Grains
      Zircon Grains
      Chromium Grains

      I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?

      Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?

      well just leave some spots open for trash and if they fill up send them to a friend or just delete them from your inventory. I mean you can even use an addon (if youre on PC) to do it for you automatically (dustman) according to your wishes... your writing is no excuse. because yes people like you with a full inventory also find the trash annoying which YOU are leaving. And I think it also hurts the respawn rate. Though I havent tested it with stuff in the nodes, but mats generelly respawn if there are less mat nodes around!
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    • lientier
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      SirAndy wrote: »
      Conan776 wrote: »
      SirAndy wrote: »
      Finally , someone who actually understands how chest respawns work!
      thumb3d.gif
      I remember reading in zone chat when I first started (circa One Tamriel) that if you picked a flower but left the worms, the node would stay visually empty forever until someone stumbled upon the spot and picked up the worms you left behind. I never really gave it much thought once my bag got big enough, though I've never once stumbled on worms in a hole in the ground.
      Everything respawning on a timer would make a lot more sense.
      I still find myself worrying that if I decide not to steal an obsidian stone from a wardrobe, because it's not worth the 1/1000 chance an NPC will pop up and catch me, that I'm leaving junk behind for the next thief forever. But if it just resets on a timer, then big whoop.
      The moment you (or someone else) interacts with it, the respawn timer is set.
      Regardless of whether you fully loot the node/chest/whatever or not.

      So the worst that can happen is that you come across a chest that otherwise wouldn't even be there.
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      not true for mats as far as I am aware. They respawn on an amount of mats in the area not on a timer of a node themselves
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    • Gargath
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      Some people have limited space to pick up the best items so they leave stuff in the chests and nodes.
      ZOS is to be blamed as they made it possible, so something to be re-worked. I also have limited space and want only the best items, but being aware of the others wandering around I don't leave trash behind. In these specific situations people should be less selfish, more thinking about others. Let the chest respawn faster. It's sad that ZOS doesn't learn about that in their opening screens.
      Edited by Gargath on October 8, 2018 2:50PM
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    • Deyirn
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      Maybe you need to play another game for a week or so and then come back? You're like the guy who cried on stream because he reached the level cap in Bless Online in 2 days and there was no end game content.


      Try to have fun, if you can't then avoid the things that prevent you from having fun. Usually no online game is really that good, so accept that it may suck sometimes. If you want to play a perfect game with no issues, play old single player RPG classics. xD
      Edited by Deyirn on October 8, 2018 3:02PM
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    • Aisle9
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      lientier wrote: »
      Aisle9 wrote: »
      Snaekd wrote: »
      Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?

      Neither. People usually farm for rare and expensive set items, so whether the chest is locked or not makes little difference.

      It does, actually, because the respawn timer starts when the chest is opened, not when it's emptied.

      Simply put, you're upset you found a chest with things you didn't want, when the alternative was not finding the chest at all.

      Your feelings were hurt, but the chest will respawn properly even if there's stuff in it, after a while it will just disappear.

      You're not going to lose anything, not skill points, not loot, as the chest wouldn't have respawned anyways.

      Hope this helps.
      Have a nice day.

      Anyone else have a better way of trying to comprehend what's going on? The passivity and awkwardly condescending politeness isn't really my cup of tea.

      OP is really annoyed by people who leave their trash in chests instead of clearing them and wants them shamed and punished.

      Personally, I find it annoying to run up to a chest only to find I'm getting no exp, no gold, and trash. I think the people who do that are jerks.

      But I don't think they need to be punished. I just wish they would decide to be more polite and pick up after themselves.

      I beg to differ

      When 150 slots are reserved for PvE and PvP gear, and your bank is already full of stuff to deconstruct, stuff you're not sure it's going to be good next patch, but someone told you it will, and your mules with stuff you crafted to try out, yeah, it's not.

      I have 8 toons, and 6 of them only have less than 10 free slots at all times.

      Not one of them has trash, only keeping pieces I need to transmute, rings to deconstruct, mats to upgrade...

      Oh, right, not everyone can afford to sub for crafting bags, I suppose that's my fault as well ?

      Enjoy the worms and the training blue rubedite swords.

      my bad my bags are just always full and its a pain to go delete like 3 things for trash

      Full of what?

      oh dear, my inventory is full! whatever shall I do? I know!! I'll go open a few treasure chests!!!111ioneone

      not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):

      5 pieces Mother Sorrow (body)
      5 pieces Master Architect (body)
      4 pieces Master Architect (jewelry + staff)
      2 pieces Grothdarr
      4 pieces Valkyn Skoria (2 divines, 2 impen)
      2 pieces Zaan (2 impen)
      2 pieces Ilambris
      5 pieces Impregnable (body)
      5 piece Impregnable (jewelry + 2 staves)
      5 pieces Vicious Death (jewelry + staff + greatsword)
      5 pieces Livewire (body)
      5 pieces Bahraha's curse (jewelry + shield + axe)
      2 pieces Molag Kena
      2 pieces Swarm Mother
      2 pieces Master Shield+Master Sword
      2 pieces Maelstrom Shield + Maelstrom Sword
      2 pieces Troll King
      5 pieces War Maiden (body)
      4 pieces Moondancer (jewelry + staff)
      4 pieces Infallible Aether (jewelry + staff)
      3 pieces Willpower (jewelry)
      1 Maelstrom Inferno Staff
      1 Maelstrom Lightning Staff
      1 Maelstrom Ice Staff
      1 Maelstrom Restoration Staff
      1 Master Inferno Staff
      1 Asylum Inferno Staff
      1 Inferno staff of Torug's Pact
      4 pieces Wizard's Riposte (jewelry + staff)
      Grand Repair kits
      Potion of Spell Power
      Essence of Magicka
      Essence of Immovability
      Keep Door Woodwork Repair Kit
      Keep Wall Masonry Repair Kit
      Longfin Pastry with Melon Sauce
      Melon-Baked Parmesan Pork
      Witchmother's Potent Brew
      Grand Amnesty Edict
      Counterfeit Pardon Edict
      Lockpicks
      Soul Gems
      Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
      Guild Tabard
      Ancient Scales
      Casserite Sand
      Dried Blood
      Iridium Grains
      Malachite Shards
      Platinum Dust
      Pulverized Antimony
      Pulverized Aurbic Amber
      Pulverized Cobalt
      Pulverized Dibellum
      Pulverized Titanium
      Raw Ancestor Silk
      Rough Ruby Ash
      Rubedite Ore
      Rubedite Hide Scraps
      Terne Grains
      Zircon Grains
      Chromium Grains

      I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?

      Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?

      well just leave some spots open for trash and if they fill up send them to a friend or just delete them from your inventory. I mean you can even use an addon (if youre on PC) to do it for you automatically (dustman) according to your wishes... your writing is no excuse. because yes people like you with a full inventory also find the trash annoying which YOU are leaving. And I think it also hurts the respawn rate. Though I havent tested it with stuff in the nodes, but mats generelly respawn if there are less mat nodes around!

      Whether I pick up the trash or not, the chest is going to respawn in the same amount of time.

      I have nothing to excuse, because the chest is going to respawn anyways. By leaving the stuff in I'm not going to prevent it from respawning.

      It doesn't hurt the respawn rate, nor the respawn time, it only hurts your feelings.

      Once you open the container (nodes, chests) the respawn timer starts. The respawn timer for that container is longer than the destruction timer, but they are not dependent on each other. It's not going to respawn faster if you pick everything up.

      The reason why everyone makes such a big deal out of it is because they try to open the chest with high expectations, hoping to find who knows what treasure, and they get disappointed when they don't find anything.

      Have a nice day.


      PS-
      lientier wrote: »
      SirAndy wrote: »
      Conan776 wrote: »
      SirAndy wrote: »
      Finally , someone who actually understands how chest respawns work!
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      I remember reading in zone chat when I first started (circa One Tamriel) that if you picked a flower but left the worms, the node would stay visually empty forever until someone stumbled upon the spot and picked up the worms you left behind. I never really gave it much thought once my bag got big enough, though I've never once stumbled on worms in a hole in the ground.
      Everything respawning on a timer would make a lot more sense.
      I still find myself worrying that if I decide not to steal an obsidian stone from a wardrobe, because it's not worth the 1/1000 chance an NPC will pop up and catch me, that I'm leaving junk behind for the next thief forever. But if it just resets on a timer, then big whoop.
      The moment you (or someone else) interacts with it, the respawn timer is set.
      Regardless of whether you fully loot the node/chest/whatever or not.

      So the worst that can happen is that you come across a chest that otherwise wouldn't even be there.
      shades.gif

      not true for mats as far as I am aware. They respawn on an amount of mats in the area not on a timer of a node themselves

      no they don't

      Edited by Aisle9 on October 8, 2018 3:07PM
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    • lientier
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      Aisle9 wrote: »
      lientier wrote: »
      Aisle9 wrote: »
      Snaekd wrote: »
      Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?

      Neither. People usually farm for rare and expensive set items, so whether the chest is locked or not makes little difference.

      It does, actually, because the respawn timer starts when the chest is opened, not when it's emptied.

      Simply put, you're upset you found a chest with things you didn't want, when the alternative was not finding the chest at all.

      Your feelings were hurt, but the chest will respawn properly even if there's stuff in it, after a while it will just disappear.

      You're not going to lose anything, not skill points, not loot, as the chest wouldn't have respawned anyways.

      Hope this helps.
      Have a nice day.

      Anyone else have a better way of trying to comprehend what's going on? The passivity and awkwardly condescending politeness isn't really my cup of tea.

      OP is really annoyed by people who leave their trash in chests instead of clearing them and wants them shamed and punished.

      Personally, I find it annoying to run up to a chest only to find I'm getting no exp, no gold, and trash. I think the people who do that are jerks.

      But I don't think they need to be punished. I just wish they would decide to be more polite and pick up after themselves.

      I beg to differ

      When 150 slots are reserved for PvE and PvP gear, and your bank is already full of stuff to deconstruct, stuff you're not sure it's going to be good next patch, but someone told you it will, and your mules with stuff you crafted to try out, yeah, it's not.

      I have 8 toons, and 6 of them only have less than 10 free slots at all times.

      Not one of them has trash, only keeping pieces I need to transmute, rings to deconstruct, mats to upgrade...

      Oh, right, not everyone can afford to sub for crafting bags, I suppose that's my fault as well ?

      Enjoy the worms and the training blue rubedite swords.

      my bad my bags are just always full and its a pain to go delete like 3 things for trash

      Full of what?

      oh dear, my inventory is full! whatever shall I do? I know!! I'll go open a few treasure chests!!!111ioneone

      not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):

      5 pieces Mother Sorrow (body)
      5 pieces Master Architect (body)
      4 pieces Master Architect (jewelry + staff)
      2 pieces Grothdarr
      4 pieces Valkyn Skoria (2 divines, 2 impen)
      2 pieces Zaan (2 impen)
      2 pieces Ilambris
      5 pieces Impregnable (body)
      5 piece Impregnable (jewelry + 2 staves)
      5 pieces Vicious Death (jewelry + staff + greatsword)
      5 pieces Livewire (body)
      5 pieces Bahraha's curse (jewelry + shield + axe)
      2 pieces Molag Kena
      2 pieces Swarm Mother
      2 pieces Master Shield+Master Sword
      2 pieces Maelstrom Shield + Maelstrom Sword
      2 pieces Troll King
      5 pieces War Maiden (body)
      4 pieces Moondancer (jewelry + staff)
      4 pieces Infallible Aether (jewelry + staff)
      3 pieces Willpower (jewelry)
      1 Maelstrom Inferno Staff
      1 Maelstrom Lightning Staff
      1 Maelstrom Ice Staff
      1 Maelstrom Restoration Staff
      1 Master Inferno Staff
      1 Asylum Inferno Staff
      1 Inferno staff of Torug's Pact
      4 pieces Wizard's Riposte (jewelry + staff)
      Grand Repair kits
      Potion of Spell Power
      Essence of Magicka
      Essence of Immovability
      Keep Door Woodwork Repair Kit
      Keep Wall Masonry Repair Kit
      Longfin Pastry with Melon Sauce
      Melon-Baked Parmesan Pork
      Witchmother's Potent Brew
      Grand Amnesty Edict
      Counterfeit Pardon Edict
      Lockpicks
      Soul Gems
      Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
      Guild Tabard
      Ancient Scales
      Casserite Sand
      Dried Blood
      Iridium Grains
      Malachite Shards
      Platinum Dust
      Pulverized Antimony
      Pulverized Aurbic Amber
      Pulverized Cobalt
      Pulverized Dibellum
      Pulverized Titanium
      Raw Ancestor Silk
      Rough Ruby Ash
      Rubedite Ore
      Rubedite Hide Scraps
      Terne Grains
      Zircon Grains
      Chromium Grains

      I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?

      Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?

      well just leave some spots open for trash and if they fill up send them to a friend or just delete them from your inventory. I mean you can even use an addon (if youre on PC) to do it for you automatically (dustman) according to your wishes... your writing is no excuse. because yes people like you with a full inventory also find the trash annoying which YOU are leaving. And I think it also hurts the respawn rate. Though I havent tested it with stuff in the nodes, but mats generelly respawn if there are less mat nodes around!

      Whether I pick up the trash or not, the chest is going to respawn in the same amount of time.

      I have nothing to excuse, because the chest is going to respawn anyways. By leaving the stuff in I'm not going to prevent it from respawning.

      It doesn't hurt the respawn rate, nor the respawn time, it only hurts your feelings.

      Once you open the container (nodes, chests) the respawn timer starts. The respawn timer for that container is longer than the destruction timer, but they are not dependent on each other. It's not going to respawn faster if you pick everything up.

      The reason why everyone makes such a big deal out of it is because they try to open the chest with high expectations, hoping to find who knows what treasure, and they get disappointed when they don't find anything.

      Have a nice day.

      well no. I dont know how the chests timer works. But I was talking about crafting nodes. There is no classic respawn timer. If a node respawns is dependend on the amount of -active- nodes around that one (probably in the same category, but seems more like every type). The question being: is a half looted crafting node still counted as active? I believe it is. But I can test it out on my favourite dense-node spot in bleakrock, where the clearing of nodes is in perfect balance with the circle you walk. Well actually no, I can't test it because I am a casual player but still own the crafting bag. Leaving garbage because you have limited inventory space for other people with also limited inventory space, when you can easily just delete stuff is still annoying and rude anyway.
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    • Aisle9
      Aisle9
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      lientier wrote: »
      Aisle9 wrote: »
      lientier wrote: »
      Aisle9 wrote: »
      Snaekd wrote: »
      Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?

      Neither. People usually farm for rare and expensive set items, so whether the chest is locked or not makes little difference.

      It does, actually, because the respawn timer starts when the chest is opened, not when it's emptied.

      Simply put, you're upset you found a chest with things you didn't want, when the alternative was not finding the chest at all.

      Your feelings were hurt, but the chest will respawn properly even if there's stuff in it, after a while it will just disappear.

      You're not going to lose anything, not skill points, not loot, as the chest wouldn't have respawned anyways.

      Hope this helps.
      Have a nice day.

      Anyone else have a better way of trying to comprehend what's going on? The passivity and awkwardly condescending politeness isn't really my cup of tea.

      OP is really annoyed by people who leave their trash in chests instead of clearing them and wants them shamed and punished.

      Personally, I find it annoying to run up to a chest only to find I'm getting no exp, no gold, and trash. I think the people who do that are jerks.

      But I don't think they need to be punished. I just wish they would decide to be more polite and pick up after themselves.

      I beg to differ

      When 150 slots are reserved for PvE and PvP gear, and your bank is already full of stuff to deconstruct, stuff you're not sure it's going to be good next patch, but someone told you it will, and your mules with stuff you crafted to try out, yeah, it's not.

      I have 8 toons, and 6 of them only have less than 10 free slots at all times.

      Not one of them has trash, only keeping pieces I need to transmute, rings to deconstruct, mats to upgrade...

      Oh, right, not everyone can afford to sub for crafting bags, I suppose that's my fault as well ?

      Enjoy the worms and the training blue rubedite swords.

      my bad my bags are just always full and its a pain to go delete like 3 things for trash

      Full of what?

      oh dear, my inventory is full! whatever shall I do? I know!! I'll go open a few treasure chests!!!111ioneone

      not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):

      5 pieces Mother Sorrow (body)
      5 pieces Master Architect (body)
      4 pieces Master Architect (jewelry + staff)
      2 pieces Grothdarr
      4 pieces Valkyn Skoria (2 divines, 2 impen)
      2 pieces Zaan (2 impen)
      2 pieces Ilambris
      5 pieces Impregnable (body)
      5 piece Impregnable (jewelry + 2 staves)
      5 pieces Vicious Death (jewelry + staff + greatsword)
      5 pieces Livewire (body)
      5 pieces Bahraha's curse (jewelry + shield + axe)
      2 pieces Molag Kena
      2 pieces Swarm Mother
      2 pieces Master Shield+Master Sword
      2 pieces Maelstrom Shield + Maelstrom Sword
      2 pieces Troll King
      5 pieces War Maiden (body)
      4 pieces Moondancer (jewelry + staff)
      4 pieces Infallible Aether (jewelry + staff)
      3 pieces Willpower (jewelry)
      1 Maelstrom Inferno Staff
      1 Maelstrom Lightning Staff
      1 Maelstrom Ice Staff
      1 Maelstrom Restoration Staff
      1 Master Inferno Staff
      1 Asylum Inferno Staff
      1 Inferno staff of Torug's Pact
      4 pieces Wizard's Riposte (jewelry + staff)
      Grand Repair kits
      Potion of Spell Power
      Essence of Magicka
      Essence of Immovability
      Keep Door Woodwork Repair Kit
      Keep Wall Masonry Repair Kit
      Longfin Pastry with Melon Sauce
      Melon-Baked Parmesan Pork
      Witchmother's Potent Brew
      Grand Amnesty Edict
      Counterfeit Pardon Edict
      Lockpicks
      Soul Gems
      Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
      Guild Tabard
      Ancient Scales
      Casserite Sand
      Dried Blood
      Iridium Grains
      Malachite Shards
      Platinum Dust
      Pulverized Antimony
      Pulverized Aurbic Amber
      Pulverized Cobalt
      Pulverized Dibellum
      Pulverized Titanium
      Raw Ancestor Silk
      Rough Ruby Ash
      Rubedite Ore
      Rubedite Hide Scraps
      Terne Grains
      Zircon Grains
      Chromium Grains

      I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?

      Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?

      well just leave some spots open for trash and if they fill up send them to a friend or just delete them from your inventory. I mean you can even use an addon (if youre on PC) to do it for you automatically (dustman) according to your wishes... your writing is no excuse. because yes people like you with a full inventory also find the trash annoying which YOU are leaving. And I think it also hurts the respawn rate. Though I havent tested it with stuff in the nodes, but mats generelly respawn if there are less mat nodes around!

      Whether I pick up the trash or not, the chest is going to respawn in the same amount of time.

      I have nothing to excuse, because the chest is going to respawn anyways. By leaving the stuff in I'm not going to prevent it from respawning.

      It doesn't hurt the respawn rate, nor the respawn time, it only hurts your feelings.

      Once you open the container (nodes, chests) the respawn timer starts. The respawn timer for that container is longer than the destruction timer, but they are not dependent on each other. It's not going to respawn faster if you pick everything up.

      The reason why everyone makes such a big deal out of it is because they try to open the chest with high expectations, hoping to find who knows what treasure, and they get disappointed when they don't find anything.

      Have a nice day.

      well no. I dont know how the chests timer works. But I was talking about crafting nodes. There is no classic respawn timer. If a node respawns is dependend on the amount of -active- nodes around that one (probably in the same category, but seems more like every type). The question being: is a half looted crafting node still counted as active? I believe it is. But I can test it out on my favourite dense-node spot in bleakrock, where the clearing of nodes is in perfect balance with the circle you walk. Well actually no, I can't test it because I am a casual player but still own the crafting bag. Leaving garbage because you have limited inventory space for other people with also limited inventory space, when you can easily just delete stuff is still annoying and rude anyway.

      Destroying the trash every time I pick something up is annoying for me as well, as I have to open the inventory, select destroy, confirm, then repeat for every other item, a task that takes from 10 to 20 seconds, while for you, you just have to ignore them: 0 seconds.

      Considering I work for a living, and I have limited time to play, no, I'm sorry. You think I'm rude ? Well, I'm gonna cry myself to sleep tonight, and then get over it in the morning.

      Have a nice day.
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    • lientier
      lientier
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      Aisle9 wrote: »
      lientier wrote: »
      Aisle9 wrote: »
      lientier wrote: »
      Aisle9 wrote: »
      Snaekd wrote: »
      Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?

      Neither. People usually farm for rare and expensive set items, so whether the chest is locked or not makes little difference.

      It does, actually, because the respawn timer starts when the chest is opened, not when it's emptied.

      Simply put, you're upset you found a chest with things you didn't want, when the alternative was not finding the chest at all.

      Your feelings were hurt, but the chest will respawn properly even if there's stuff in it, after a while it will just disappear.

      You're not going to lose anything, not skill points, not loot, as the chest wouldn't have respawned anyways.

      Hope this helps.
      Have a nice day.

      Anyone else have a better way of trying to comprehend what's going on? The passivity and awkwardly condescending politeness isn't really my cup of tea.

      OP is really annoyed by people who leave their trash in chests instead of clearing them and wants them shamed and punished.

      Personally, I find it annoying to run up to a chest only to find I'm getting no exp, no gold, and trash. I think the people who do that are jerks.

      But I don't think they need to be punished. I just wish they would decide to be more polite and pick up after themselves.

      I beg to differ

      When 150 slots are reserved for PvE and PvP gear, and your bank is already full of stuff to deconstruct, stuff you're not sure it's going to be good next patch, but someone told you it will, and your mules with stuff you crafted to try out, yeah, it's not.

      I have 8 toons, and 6 of them only have less than 10 free slots at all times.

      Not one of them has trash, only keeping pieces I need to transmute, rings to deconstruct, mats to upgrade...

      Oh, right, not everyone can afford to sub for crafting bags, I suppose that's my fault as well ?

      Enjoy the worms and the training blue rubedite swords.

      my bad my bags are just always full and its a pain to go delete like 3 things for trash

      Full of what?

      oh dear, my inventory is full! whatever shall I do? I know!! I'll go open a few treasure chests!!!111ioneone

      not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):

      5 pieces Mother Sorrow (body)
      5 pieces Master Architect (body)
      4 pieces Master Architect (jewelry + staff)
      2 pieces Grothdarr
      4 pieces Valkyn Skoria (2 divines, 2 impen)
      2 pieces Zaan (2 impen)
      2 pieces Ilambris
      5 pieces Impregnable (body)
      5 piece Impregnable (jewelry + 2 staves)
      5 pieces Vicious Death (jewelry + staff + greatsword)
      5 pieces Livewire (body)
      5 pieces Bahraha's curse (jewelry + shield + axe)
      2 pieces Molag Kena
      2 pieces Swarm Mother
      2 pieces Master Shield+Master Sword
      2 pieces Maelstrom Shield + Maelstrom Sword
      2 pieces Troll King
      5 pieces War Maiden (body)
      4 pieces Moondancer (jewelry + staff)
      4 pieces Infallible Aether (jewelry + staff)
      3 pieces Willpower (jewelry)
      1 Maelstrom Inferno Staff
      1 Maelstrom Lightning Staff
      1 Maelstrom Ice Staff
      1 Maelstrom Restoration Staff
      1 Master Inferno Staff
      1 Asylum Inferno Staff
      1 Inferno staff of Torug's Pact
      4 pieces Wizard's Riposte (jewelry + staff)
      Grand Repair kits
      Potion of Spell Power
      Essence of Magicka
      Essence of Immovability
      Keep Door Woodwork Repair Kit
      Keep Wall Masonry Repair Kit
      Longfin Pastry with Melon Sauce
      Melon-Baked Parmesan Pork
      Witchmother's Potent Brew
      Grand Amnesty Edict
      Counterfeit Pardon Edict
      Lockpicks
      Soul Gems
      Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
      Guild Tabard
      Ancient Scales
      Casserite Sand
      Dried Blood
      Iridium Grains
      Malachite Shards
      Platinum Dust
      Pulverized Antimony
      Pulverized Aurbic Amber
      Pulverized Cobalt
      Pulverized Dibellum
      Pulverized Titanium
      Raw Ancestor Silk
      Rough Ruby Ash
      Rubedite Ore
      Rubedite Hide Scraps
      Terne Grains
      Zircon Grains
      Chromium Grains

      I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?

      Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?

      well just leave some spots open for trash and if they fill up send them to a friend or just delete them from your inventory. I mean you can even use an addon (if youre on PC) to do it for you automatically (dustman) according to your wishes... your writing is no excuse. because yes people like you with a full inventory also find the trash annoying which YOU are leaving. And I think it also hurts the respawn rate. Though I havent tested it with stuff in the nodes, but mats generelly respawn if there are less mat nodes around!

      Whether I pick up the trash or not, the chest is going to respawn in the same amount of time.

      I have nothing to excuse, because the chest is going to respawn anyways. By leaving the stuff in I'm not going to prevent it from respawning.

      It doesn't hurt the respawn rate, nor the respawn time, it only hurts your feelings.

      Once you open the container (nodes, chests) the respawn timer starts. The respawn timer for that container is longer than the destruction timer, but they are not dependent on each other. It's not going to respawn faster if you pick everything up.

      The reason why everyone makes such a big deal out of it is because they try to open the chest with high expectations, hoping to find who knows what treasure, and they get disappointed when they don't find anything.

      Have a nice day.

      well no. I dont know how the chests timer works. But I was talking about crafting nodes. There is no classic respawn timer. If a node respawns is dependend on the amount of -active- nodes around that one (probably in the same category, but seems more like every type). The question being: is a half looted crafting node still counted as active? I believe it is. But I can test it out on my favourite dense-node spot in bleakrock, where the clearing of nodes is in perfect balance with the circle you walk. Well actually no, I can't test it because I am a casual player but still own the crafting bag. Leaving garbage because you have limited inventory space for other people with also limited inventory space, when you can easily just delete stuff is still annoying and rude anyway.

      Destroying the trash every time I pick something up is annoying for me as well, as I have to open the inventory, select destroy, confirm, then repeat for every other item, a task that takes from 10 to 20 seconds, while for you, you just have to ignore them: 0 seconds.

      Considering I work for a living, and I have limited time to play, no, I'm sorry. You think I'm rude ? Well, I'm gonna cry myself to sleep tonight, and then get over it in the morning.

      Have a nice day.

      you play on PC, so you can just let dustman do the destroying automatically.
      Also, yes I think you are rude and selfish, especially in your post above. Having limited time to play, having a job, as do I both, is no excuse for anyone for being rude and I dont know what it has to do with it.
      You cant see from a distance if its half emtpy, it still takes the same amount for someone else to open the node.
      PC-EU @lientier
    • rfennell_ESO
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      Snaekd wrote: »
      My mommy always says that only bad people don't share their loot. But I'm a good boy! Therefore I couldn't care less if there are other people farming in this zone and I will call them all the dirty names I know if they only dare to stand between me and fun. Especially, if they speak to me politely!

      Actually, few of said names were quite a finding to me, so I have memorized them for further usage.

      That aside, I really do wonder if there is an option to penalize this kind of behaviour in game. I mean, reporting people for throwing mud balls surely feels nice, but it's a bit too harsh — if you do it in the wrong time and to the wrong category, they can really get banned. I say, we could have a better solution than swallowing them bitter tears of despair and ban-hammering each other to near-death state.

      How do you feel about a set of not-so-subtle in-game restrictions?

      Let's say, Jimmy has a weekend and no brakes when it comes to getting at people's nerves. He gets reported to the category of "inappropriate behaviour v.2" once, then twice more and the day after the boy discovers his own mount stripped of 20 levels of speed. Or that he can't sell items at guild stores for a certain period of time. Or that a blazing mark saying "I'M A BAD BOY, DON'T GO NEAR ME" appears over heads of all his characters and follows them to the very character selection menu. The latter would be really nice, in my opinion. Appropriate, too.

      And please, don't think that I simply needed to vent — I have been doing that for an hour prior to visiting the forum — it's just some people really ask for several lessons of good manners. And one can only tolerate so much of inhumane behaviour before attempting to fight the fire with fire.

      You're on a rant against bots that only pick up certain things...

      There is no one at the wheel to be offended or shamed.
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      lientier wrote: »
      Aisle9 wrote: »
      lientier wrote: »
      Aisle9 wrote: »
      lientier wrote: »
      Aisle9 wrote: »
      Snaekd wrote: »
      Sometimes when I'm bored I go around zones and unlock chests without looting anything. Is that being helpful or not? Genuine question, but if you came across an unlocked chest that still had 100ish gold, malachite shards ect. would you be mad or annoyed?

      Neither. People usually farm for rare and expensive set items, so whether the chest is locked or not makes little difference.

      It does, actually, because the respawn timer starts when the chest is opened, not when it's emptied.

      Simply put, you're upset you found a chest with things you didn't want, when the alternative was not finding the chest at all.

      Your feelings were hurt, but the chest will respawn properly even if there's stuff in it, after a while it will just disappear.

      You're not going to lose anything, not skill points, not loot, as the chest wouldn't have respawned anyways.

      Hope this helps.
      Have a nice day.

      Anyone else have a better way of trying to comprehend what's going on? The passivity and awkwardly condescending politeness isn't really my cup of tea.

      OP is really annoyed by people who leave their trash in chests instead of clearing them and wants them shamed and punished.

      Personally, I find it annoying to run up to a chest only to find I'm getting no exp, no gold, and trash. I think the people who do that are jerks.

      But I don't think they need to be punished. I just wish they would decide to be more polite and pick up after themselves.

      I beg to differ

      When 150 slots are reserved for PvE and PvP gear, and your bank is already full of stuff to deconstruct, stuff you're not sure it's going to be good next patch, but someone told you it will, and your mules with stuff you crafted to try out, yeah, it's not.

      I have 8 toons, and 6 of them only have less than 10 free slots at all times.

      Not one of them has trash, only keeping pieces I need to transmute, rings to deconstruct, mats to upgrade...

      Oh, right, not everyone can afford to sub for crafting bags, I suppose that's my fault as well ?

      Enjoy the worms and the training blue rubedite swords.

      my bad my bags are just always full and its a pain to go delete like 3 things for trash

      Full of what?

      oh dear, my inventory is full! whatever shall I do? I know!! I'll go open a few treasure chests!!!111ioneone

      not counting the gear I'm currently wearing (5 pieces BSW + 4 pieces Mother Sorrow + 2 pieces Zaan):

      5 pieces Mother Sorrow (body)
      5 pieces Master Architect (body)
      4 pieces Master Architect (jewelry + staff)
      2 pieces Grothdarr
      4 pieces Valkyn Skoria (2 divines, 2 impen)
      2 pieces Zaan (2 impen)
      2 pieces Ilambris
      5 pieces Impregnable (body)
      5 piece Impregnable (jewelry + 2 staves)
      5 pieces Vicious Death (jewelry + staff + greatsword)
      5 pieces Livewire (body)
      5 pieces Bahraha's curse (jewelry + shield + axe)
      2 pieces Molag Kena
      2 pieces Swarm Mother
      2 pieces Master Shield+Master Sword
      2 pieces Maelstrom Shield + Maelstrom Sword
      2 pieces Troll King
      5 pieces War Maiden (body)
      4 pieces Moondancer (jewelry + staff)
      4 pieces Infallible Aether (jewelry + staff)
      3 pieces Willpower (jewelry)
      1 Maelstrom Inferno Staff
      1 Maelstrom Lightning Staff
      1 Maelstrom Ice Staff
      1 Maelstrom Restoration Staff
      1 Master Inferno Staff
      1 Asylum Inferno Staff
      1 Inferno staff of Torug's Pact
      4 pieces Wizard's Riposte (jewelry + staff)
      Grand Repair kits
      Potion of Spell Power
      Essence of Magicka
      Essence of Immovability
      Keep Door Woodwork Repair Kit
      Keep Wall Masonry Repair Kit
      Longfin Pastry with Melon Sauce
      Melon-Baked Parmesan Pork
      Witchmother's Potent Brew
      Grand Amnesty Edict
      Counterfeit Pardon Edict
      Lockpicks
      Soul Gems
      Pocket Guide for Kick the Khajiit
      Guild Tabard
      Ancient Scales
      Casserite Sand
      Dried Blood
      Iridium Grains
      Malachite Shards
      Platinum Dust
      Pulverized Antimony
      Pulverized Aurbic Amber
      Pulverized Cobalt
      Pulverized Dibellum
      Pulverized Titanium
      Raw Ancestor Silk
      Rough Ruby Ash
      Rubedite Ore
      Rubedite Hide Scraps
      Terne Grains
      Zircon Grains
      Chromium Grains

      I'm sorry, do you want me to go on ?

      Not everyone is a casual, some of us enjoy different types of content, that requires different types of gear. Does that mean I need to refrain from farming so that your feelings are not hurt ?

      well just leave some spots open for trash and if they fill up send them to a friend or just delete them from your inventory. I mean you can even use an addon (if youre on PC) to do it for you automatically (dustman) according to your wishes... your writing is no excuse. because yes people like you with a full inventory also find the trash annoying which YOU are leaving. And I think it also hurts the respawn rate. Though I havent tested it with stuff in the nodes, but mats generelly respawn if there are less mat nodes around!

      Whether I pick up the trash or not, the chest is going to respawn in the same amount of time.

      I have nothing to excuse, because the chest is going to respawn anyways. By leaving the stuff in I'm not going to prevent it from respawning.

      It doesn't hurt the respawn rate, nor the respawn time, it only hurts your feelings.

      Once you open the container (nodes, chests) the respawn timer starts. The respawn timer for that container is longer than the destruction timer, but they are not dependent on each other. It's not going to respawn faster if you pick everything up.

      The reason why everyone makes such a big deal out of it is because they try to open the chest with high expectations, hoping to find who knows what treasure, and they get disappointed when they don't find anything.

      Have a nice day.

      well no. I dont know how the chests timer works. But I was talking about crafting nodes. There is no classic respawn timer. If a node respawns is dependend on the amount of -active- nodes around that one (probably in the same category, but seems more like every type). The question being: is a half looted crafting node still counted as active? I believe it is. But I can test it out on my favourite dense-node spot in bleakrock, where the clearing of nodes is in perfect balance with the circle you walk. Well actually no, I can't test it because I am a casual player but still own the crafting bag. Leaving garbage because you have limited inventory space for other people with also limited inventory space, when you can easily just delete stuff is still annoying and rude anyway.

      Destroying the trash every time I pick something up is annoying for me as well, as I have to open the inventory, select destroy, confirm, then repeat for every other item, a task that takes from 10 to 20 seconds, while for you, you just have to ignore them: 0 seconds.

      Considering I work for a living, and I have limited time to play, no, I'm sorry. You think I'm rude ? Well, I'm gonna cry myself to sleep tonight, and then get over it in the morning.

      Have a nice day.

      you play on PC, so you can just let dustman do the destroying automatically.
      Also, yes I think you are rude and selfish, especially in your post above. Having limited time to play, having a job, as do I both, is no excuse for anyone for being rude and I dont know what it has to do with it.
      You cant see from a distance if its half emtpy, it still takes the same amount for someone else to open the node.

      Aisle is right, buddy. Chests are just another form of resource node, they operate the same way in game, and trigger their respawn timer as soon as they're opened. They do not reset the timer if interacted with in between the first access and countdown, you lose nothing for it.

      On the subject of Dustman, I would never trust an add-on to manage my inventory specifically when it is designed to delete items permanently. Nothing against the author, but I didn't build it, so I won't risk it.

      As far as being rude, all I see are people who never learned to handle disappointment with a healthy attitude, attacking others who are off minding their own business in the world.

      If none of the ample past arguments have made it through to you, at the very least, there's this. If you don't want to find half empty nodes out in the game, you'd better make sure you get to them first.

      Nobody owes you anything, nobody owes me anything. Especially not courtesy.
    • Chicharron
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      The other day i opened a chest and realized that i had my inventory full, just grab the ring and i left, immediately someone sent me a private message.

      Angry peasant: why did you do that? you're the reason why the community of ESO sucks, uninstall the game please.

      Me: I'm an Arch-Mage, Fighters Guild Veteran, Hero of the Daggerfall Covenant, Aldmeri Dominion, Ebonheart Pact and Wrothgar, Champion of Vivec and Savior of Morrowind, also and Assassin and a Thief.

      I can do everything i want and you can not do anything about it, deal with it.
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