Quality of stolen items?

Feric51 · March 2018

I was wondering what, if anything, affects the quality of items stolen via pickpocketing or looting owned containers?

I've heard that progressing ranks in the Legerdemain and Thieves Guild skill lines has some effect, but didn't know if that was hearsay or based on fact?

Any evidence supporting your claim would be helpful as well.

Thanks in advance!

TheNuminous1 · March 2018

bubump. im curious as well

Turelus · March 2018

From my understanding it's all random and nothing effects this.

ZOS are normally pretty good at telling us when skills/effects buff drops so we don't have to deal with much speculation.

None of the skills in legerdemain or thieves guild lines mention any changes to drop chances so I would say it's more speculation/rumour (like the dolman pinions) unless anyone is able to provide some evidence of long testing with recorded results to say otherwise.

newtinmpls · March 2018

It's all about have you left an offering to RNGjesus lately

Violynne · March 2018

Feric51 wrote: »

I was wondering what, if anything, affects the quality of items stolen via pickpocketing or looting owned containers?

I just put champion points into a skill tree which had an affect on the quality of items I get from chests as well as the amount of gold. I'm seeing more blue items in chests. Haven't pickpocketed yet (skill too low for a success), but I don't think this will be affected since it's not a chest.

I've heard that progressing ranks in the Legerdemain and Thieves Guild skill lines has some effect, but didn't know if that was hearsay or based on fact?

I only noticed a higher chance of blue items seemed dependent on the difficulty of the lock. As my skills improved, I didn't notice a change in percentage.

But I need to say that, given how much I was thieving with this character, it's all kind of a giant blur. I was mostly stealing to level up. If it was green or better, it went into my pocket.

Any evidence supporting your claim would be helpful as well.

Other than the increase in gold due to the champion points, I've got no proof either way. Sorry.

SGT_Wolfe101st · October 2018

From Natch Potes 2.6.4, Legerdemain now influences the quality of loot obtained from Justice activities.
* Higher skill ranks in Legerdemain provide a better chance to "find" higher quality items.

SGT_Wolfe101st · October 2018

From Natch Potes 2.6.4, Legerdemain now influences the quality of loot obtained from Justice activities.
* Higher skill ranks in Legerdemain provide a better chance to "find" higher quality items.

VaranisArano · October 2018

The Treasure Hunter CP passive only effects treasure chests in overland zones, dungeons, and trials. It does not effect stolen items, safeboxes, or dolmen chests.

Taloros · October 2018

SGT_Wolfe101st wrote: »

From Natch Potes 2.6.4, Legerdemain now influences the quality of loot obtained from Justice activities.
* Higher skill ranks in Legerdemain provide a better chance to "find" higher quality items.

This fits my perception. With Legerdemain 20, you are much, much more likely to find blue quality items. With a very low skill level, pretty much all loot is of white quality.

Runs · October 2018

SGT_Wolfe101st wrote: »

From Natch Potes 2.6.4, Legerdemain now influences the quality of loot obtained from Justice activities.
* Higher skill ranks in Legerdemain provide a better chance to "find" higher quality items.

Just checked it does say that. All my characters get legerdemain leveled to 20 within the first 2 weeks of creating them, for the lock-picking passive.

I don't notice any difference on standard stolen loot. But in Morrowind when many people where complaining about the drop rate on the 3 house motifs which are earned from pick pocketing I was racking in the gold. I would log one character pick pocket 5-6 people(pick pick stab method) and log onto next character and do the same. Each rotation of 10 characters would usually give me 5 or 6 motif pages. So maybe there is something to it.

Starlock · October 2018

Ledgermain ranks directly impact it. Have tested this with theivery guild events at a large scale. The difference is very noticeable on the ratio of white to green to blue. Purps won’t even drop with bad ledgermain.