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Question about two hand axe bleed
Jaraal
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What I want to know is does the Forceful passive apply a 50% bleed to up to three other targets, if I have Heavy Weapons passive maxed? I would assume the 50% damage bonus stacks with the extra 5% damage applied to swords, but I'm not certain how Forceful is applied to axes (or maces.)
The reason I'm wondering about this is when I see Brawler Bleed activated in Srendarr, it stays active for several seconds. But when it shows Heavy Weapons Bleed active, it's very brief. One would assume if axe bleed is affecting multiple targets, it would show active for the full six seconds, but that is never the case.
Thoughts?
The reason I'm wondering about this is when I see Brawler Bleed activated in Srendarr, it stays active for several seconds. But when it shows Heavy Weapons Bleed active, it's very brief. One would assume if axe bleed is affecting multiple targets, it would show active for the full six seconds, but that is never the case.
Thoughts?
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GreenHere✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Short answer: Nope.
As of the Nerfmire PTS, nearby targets cannot be affected by a Heavy Weapons bleed from light/heavy attacks on the primary target in any way. They only take a portion of the direct damage from the light/heavy attack itself.
Once procced on the primary target, Heavy Weapons bleed did not send any bleed damage outwards in over 20 instances of it firing. Additionally, in over 200 light attacks and 100 heavy attacks on the target skeleton in the middle, not once did the two skeles to each side bleed. At all. So Heavy Weapons appears to require a direct light or heavy attack to the face to have a chance to proc.
Good question! I got curious after reading it, and decided to test for myself. Bummer it doesn't work, though.1 -
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✭✭Also worth noting is that Brawler's bleed cannot proc the Heavy Weapons bleed, but the initial direct damage portion of the skill can. Even on multiple targets from the single cast. Perhaps this is leading to what you're seeing in S'rendarr?Edited by GreenHere on October 7, 2018 2:14PM1
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Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Interesting! So the battle axes are inferior (total damage-wise) versus multiple targets, because the bonus damage from 16% bleed chance is applied to a single target, whereas the extra 5 % from the sword bonus is applied to up to four targets 100% of the time.
Thanks for saving me the cost of golding out an axe! Did you test this with Combat Metrics?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If you want a 2H for PvP, nothings beats Axe. According to Combat Metrics, the bleed usually deal 10%+ damage on pretty much everything any battle longer than 20 secs. That's accounting for bar swaps as well.1 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If you want a 2H for PvP, nothings beats Axe. According to Combat Metrics, the bleed usually deal 10%+ damage on pretty much everything any battle longer than 20 secs. That's accounting for bar swaps as well.
That's 1v1, right? I can see how a bleed would be better on single targets than a 5% bonus for swords. My question was initially geared towards multiple target fighting in PVE, but your insight makes sense, thanks.0