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i'm getting real frustrated how anti social this game is

  • GreenhaloX
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    Well, not that it's right or wrong, nor am I taking any sides, but there are just a lot of gamers who are anti-social in nature and are playing this game. However, the game is plentiful social, so much that it gets quite annoying have the text chat box up, more times than not. Ha ha. Don't sweat.. you'll find a guild eventually and then leave one or two, and the cycle of guild life in ESO continue onwards. As for the dungeon runs, that is what activity finder is for. Most, if not all the time, peeps are doing their own thing, farming or grinding and not particularly to run a PUG dungeon or trial runs. However, there are some still willing, but mostly, asking or calling out on zone chat is usually a big miss, but at times, can be a hit.
  • majulook
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    kathandira wrote: »
    majulook wrote: »
    I have recently left a guild due to "not nice" members. I was asking for assistance to do the preliminary Undaunted Quest on a new character who did not have the skills necessary to solo it.

    Got in the Que for the Dungeon and asked LFG in zone chat, after 45 minutes of nothing. I asked in Guild chat

    The guild members replies were immediate and horrible full of "Do not help this ******* he is to low a level, its a waste of time." " F***** if you cannot solo it, you should leave the game" "Hey, S******** you should quit playing if you cannot solo it."

    I have been a member of this guild for a over a year. Have donated time, items, and gold to the betterment of the guild. done trials and undaunted pledges with guild members on other charterers with no issues, until this.

    My point is that it is not just a few random players, it's a large amount of players that hide behind the anonymity of the game (and any internet game, forum, social media, etc... to just be jerks. Solution block them in chat, leave guilds if they are there. Just move on and play the game. It is supposed to be fun and these type of players just enjoy making it a horrible experience for others. So don't let them.

    That is horrible! Especially after being a member for a long time, and a contributor. Did you talk to the guild leadership about this?

    In our guild, this would not fly at all. Each of those people would have been removed quite quickly.

    Hmm... I seriously doubt they would have been removed. I would mention the Guild but, I believe it would be seen as name shaming.
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  • badmojo
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    I wish there was an established place for grouping with other players in the game. Something like the undaunted enclave but with no actual quest or activity tied to it besides social interaction. Call it something like 'Meeting Hall' and put it on the map, maybe add some target dummies and crafting stations.

    Sometimes I just feel like helping newer players learn the game or sometimes I feel like teaming up with random people to run around and do whatever we decide. But its not always easy to find the new players who want help from a vet, or find people that want to play co-op.

    Sometimes I ask in Vvardenfell zone if anyone wants help or wants to team up, every so often it works out great and I meet new interesting people. But, most of the time it doesnt result in any meaningful interaction. Most people in zone who are looking for help or need another body just want you to help them quickly clear a world boss, which usually means I solo the boss while they constantly die and rez next to me, then after the fight they thank me and disband the group. If I offer them a few tips on surviving or improving they mostly ignore me, too busy chasing the next quest marker or exploring the map. Which is fine, but I wouldnt consider the interaction meaningful.

    I have also tried just sideling up to players who look like they could use the help, but then I feel like they resent the difference between my performance and theirs, like I am stealing their kills for my own benefit. Some players have even said so in chat, or they will stop and wait for me to leave. Rarely they will thank me and spark up a friendship, but very rarely. It has gotten to the point where I only help people in the overworld by healing, or if its group content like dolmen and world bosses.

    I feel like there are so many people who want to play this game solo, and the mechanics of the game reinforce that mindset so much that its difficult for teamplayers to find each other. If there was a place for them to hang out and meet up, it would help players like the OP to find a guild that actually wants the social interaction and not just another chat channel to write 'LF2M for pledges" in. I have been in many active guilds over the years, but the players I would call friends I have mostly met while just playing. I feel like most guilds in this game are just groups of solo players who only team up because the game requires it. Obviously not all guilds, but a lot of them.
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  • O_LYKOS
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    People recruit for guilds all the time in zone chat. Just reply to one of those.
    Quite often there’s literally no point asking for help to do a dungeon in zone chat. That’s what the group finder is there for.
    It’s also about the way you ask.
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  • myskyrim26
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    geekboy09 wrote: »
    Nobody invites me to join a guild after i ask in the zone chat or helps me with a dungeon or anything really.

    Every day I invite players to my guilds and send free crafting materials if I see someone asks in zone chat. Many times I was helped just in this way. A lot of help with world bosses, both offered and received... I don't see a problem with that, really, on EU PC. But as for dungeons... I usually don't get help, as I'm dd. Too many DDs wanting to do dungeons :)
  • Shawn_PT
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
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    Aye. Been asking for help getting some dungeon achievements for over a week on several of my guilds. Even resorted to bribing people with gold and gold mats. Nothing. I have this feeling that people just don't care. Didn't use to be that way though.

    Asking and bribing won't work. Having friends and being nice will. If you're one of those ghosts that no one ever saw on chat and you asked for help, well... And if that's not the case, look for better guilds. I'm in 5 nice ones, 4 bring extra filled with nice people. Never failed to get any help.

    Keep looking, the right guild for you will show up.

    I post in chat every day. I have been in the same guild for 3 years. I constantly get whispers asking if I'm up for helping with this or that. But when it's my turn to ask for help, those same people don't even reply. It's not me for sure.

    The sad thing is that their lack of replies is starting to be met with lack of replies on my part as well. Nobody answers my calls. Why should I answer theirs. And this is a downward spiral I did not want to be part of for sure.
  • ZonasArch
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    Shawn_PT wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Shawn_PT wrote: »
    Aye. Been asking for help getting some dungeon achievements for over a week on several of my guilds. Even resorted to bribing people with gold and gold mats. Nothing. I have this feeling that people just don't care. Didn't use to be that way though.

    Asking and bribing won't work. Having friends and being nice will. If you're one of those ghosts that no one ever saw on chat and you asked for help, well... And if that's not the case, look for better guilds. I'm in 5 nice ones, 4 bring extra filled with nice people. Never failed to get any help.

    Keep looking, the right guild for you will show up.

    I post in chat every day. I have been in the same guild for 3 years. I constantly get whispers asking if I'm up for helping with this or that. But when it's my turn to ask for help, those same people don't even reply. It's not me for sure.

    The sad thing is that their lack of replies is starting to be met with lack of replies on my part as well. Nobody answers my calls. Why should I answer theirs. And this is a downward spiral I did not want to be part of for sure.

    This sucks :/ if you're on PC NA, I can get you in a more social and friendly trading guild.
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    Platform? Xbox? Ps4? Pc?
  • Androconium
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    Urvoth wrote: »
    Zone chat is filled with people spamming recruitment ads for their guilds...

    Yes, but those guilds are culling daily and looking for more hamsters to run Mother's Mill. Hi-po trading guilds. These guilds sell themselves as 'social' guilds, but the first thing they ask is how much you sell in a week. There's a word for people like this, but the last time that I used it, a got an official warning. Nice to know where the support really is...

    All the good guilds are filled with happy players and these guilds don't need to go on hourly, daily, weekly recruitment campaigns.

    One solution to this would be to be able to IDENTIFY and CONTACT the guildmaster, from a roster of guilds.

    I don't like buying from some guilds...
  • AcadianPaladin
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    I'm rather a fish out of water in ESO but perhaps not as rare as one might imagine. I'm here because after several years and several thousand hours in both Oblivion and Skyrim, both those great games began to feel a bit. . . small. So I was looking for a massive scale open world medieval fantasy RPG that could dwarf Oblivion and Skyrim. And I found it. 'Tis my first MMO and after a couple years in ESO, I do consider the fact that is an MMO to be a drawback - but one I live with because I like the game's beauty, scale and combat system.

    I have tried grouping and Cyrodiil enough to determine that is not where my interests are. When I play, my goal is to get deep into the head of my elf and the game world. Real people chattering about, well, anything, disrupts that.

    So, yes, I am basically a solo player and as long as ESO meets my needs, I'll play it. I don't resent those with objectives that vary from mine and simply ask for the same courtesy. The game's marketing included efforts to, in part, draw solo players from the Elder Scrolls series and it does a reasonable job of that.
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  • Heroeric1337
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    You're not active enough in your search. For all the guilds I've been in, all I've had to do was go to a zone and put it in chat, and if nobody responded just go to another zone and repeat. It would only take me a few times before I'd find one who would invite. Just be more active, and don't just stay in the beginning zones where nobody is in a guild...
  • Tsar_Gekkou
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    When it comes to non-trading guilds, I feel like it's antisocial because people have no idea if a player is good from seeing them post in chat, and they only want to play with people who can complete content. Spening a lot of time in failed groups doing dugeons and trials tends to wear people down after a while.
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  • LittlePinkDot
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    I dont want to be forced to work with people all the time. The dungeons are enough... And even still I would prefer if there were single player versions of dungeons so I could get the stuff I wanted when I wanted it instead of waiting for group finder.
    Pvp is fun. But grouping for dungeons is annoying and seems to waste alot of time.
  • SHADOW2KK
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    I dont want to be forced to work with people all the time. The dungeons are enough... And even still I would prefer if there were single player versions of dungeons so I could get the stuff I wanted when I wanted it instead of waiting for group finder.
    Pvp is fun. But grouping for dungeons is annoying and seems to waste alot of time.

    There already is, a lot of dungeons can be done solo on vet, and many can be done solo on normal.
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  • Nyladreas
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    Lovely how easily people show their anti-social sides on a topic like this.

    Just lovely.
  • ssorgatem
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    I never looked for a guild, and at level 30 I was already in 5 guilds...

    Just talk to people you meet or do things with.
    Ask them if they are in a guild.

    And keep an eye for guild recruiters. You can find them in almost every zone, spamming zone chat.
  • wenchmore420b14_ESO
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    geekboy09 wrote: »
    The thing is i'm a relatively new player only at level 16. I started Monday of last week. I only got 3000 gold. I need 8000 more to increase my bag space. I was in davons watch on pc na "looking for a guild" multiple times. Not one person acknowledged me

    Sorry, this caught me as funny as you posted a thread in July saying you were coming back after playing 4 years ago and complaining about the forums?
    So how could you be a new player of only 8 days?
    Just curious.... :)
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  • MattT1988
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    badmojo wrote: »
    I wish there was an established place for grouping with other players in the game. Something like the undaunted enclave but with no actual quest or activity tied to it besides social interaction. Call it something like 'Meeting Hall' and put it on the map, maybe add some target dummies and crafting stations.

    Sometimes I just feel like helping newer players learn the game or sometimes I feel like teaming up with random people to run around and do whatever we decide. But its not always easy to find the new players who want help from a vet, or find people that want to play co-op.

    Sometimes I ask in Vvardenfell zone if anyone wants help or wants to team up, every so often it works out great and I meet new interesting people. But, most of the time it doesnt result in any meaningful interaction. Most people in zone who are looking for help or need another body just want you to help them quickly clear a world boss, which usually means I solo the boss while they constantly die and rez next to me, then after the fight they thank me and disband the group. If I offer them a few tips on surviving or improving they mostly ignore me, too busy chasing the next quest marker or exploring the map. Which is fine, but I wouldnt consider the interaction meaningful.

    I have also tried just sideling up to players who look like they could use the help, but then I feel like they resent the difference between my performance and theirs, like I am stealing their kills for my own benefit. Some players have even said so in chat, or they will stop and wait for me to leave. Rarely they will thank me and spark up a friendship, but very rarely. It has gotten to the point where I only help people in the overworld by healing, or if its group content like dolmen and world bosses.

    I feel like there are so many people who want to play this game solo, and the mechanics of the game reinforce that mindset so much that its difficult for teamplayers to find each other. If there was a place for them to hang out and meet up, it would help players like the OP to find a guild that actually wants the social interaction and not just another chat channel to write 'LF2M for pledges" in. I have been in many active guilds over the years, but the players I would call friends I have mostly met while just playing. I feel like most guilds in this game are just groups of solo players who only team up because the game requires it. Obviously not all guilds, but a lot of them.

    That’s what all the taverns should be.
  • Androconium
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    FIND A PACK MERCHANT!
    You can buy pack upgrades with gold.

    GO TO BAL FOYEN
    By boat or road.
    Plenty of guilds advertise there.
  • Androconium
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    Skraticus wrote: »
    Welcome to the world of MMOs

    Where the idea is to work and play together, yet nobody can bother to do that because Devs make everything so simple you don't have to work with anybody.

    Isn't that the bloody truth. Final Fantasy XI was the first MMO I really got into, and you couldn't solo jack diddles in that game. It was kind of a bummer sometimes waiting around forever to get a party together, but man was it rewarding and fun when you got the team together and did things. It also made for a much tighter knit community (my opinion).

    Tried a few MMOs here and there after that but never really found anything that kept me interested. When TESO was announced I was overjoyed. It blew my mind at how dumbed down of an experience it was, and I still to this day cannot understand how or why the main story quests of TESO are forced to be single player.

    It's an MMO .... and they make you play solo.

    That seems to be the thing though now. MMO just means there are other people in the world with you and that's it. No interaction required (almost). I'm just coming back after being gone for 3 years because some friends grabbed the game. A lot has changed, but I'm still seeing the same core issues. Though I don't think that will ever change. Today's players are much different than they were 10+ years ago.

    It's TES. You can play however you like. You don't have to do anything. That was a core feature of Morrowind in 2002.
  • geekboy09
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    geekboy09 wrote: »
    The thing is i'm a relatively new player only at level 16. I started Monday of last week. I only got 3000 gold. I need 8000 more to increase my bag space. I was in davons watch on pc na "looking for a guild" multiple times. Not one person acknowledged me

    Sorry, this caught me as funny as you posted a thread in July saying you were coming back after playing 4 years ago and complaining about the forums?
    So how could you be a new player of only 8 days?
    Just curious.... :)

    I had no computer then. I wanted the Summerset, Morrowind deal. I was on the forums giving suggestions on how to improve the game based on gameplay videos I watched
  • wenchmore420b14_ESO
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    geekboy09 wrote: »
    geekboy09 wrote: »
    The thing is i'm a relatively new player only at level 16. I started Monday of last week. I only got 3000 gold. I need 8000 more to increase my bag space. I was in davons watch on pc na "looking for a guild" multiple times. Not one person acknowledged me

    Sorry, this caught me as funny as you posted a thread in July saying you were coming back after playing 4 years ago and complaining about the forums?
    So how could you be a new player of only 8 days?
    Just curious.... :)

    I had no computer then. I wanted the Summerset, Morrowind deal. I was on the forums giving suggestions on how to improve the game based on gameplay videos I watched

    Ahhh.. Ok, just curious as I said. If you are on NA sometime, as you said you do mostly EU, shoot me a mail. We have a very friendly social guild I will send you a invite to.
    We have many sister guilds and maybe can set you up with a PvP or trade guild too..
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