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PS4 1.40 made HDR over-saturated again

Swernik
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There have been many posts in the past about an over-saturated image while playing ESO on console with HDR enabled. Since wolfhunter we had a fix that made the game look beautifull. Now after a few weeks they reverted this and ESO looks horrific again. Thanks for the few good weeks ZOS, shame it had to end this quick.
  • Koolio
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    Swernik wrote: »
    There have been many posts in the past about an over-saturated image while playing ESO on console with HDR enabled. Since wolfhunter we had a fix that made the game look beautifull. Now after a few weeks they reverted this and ESO looks horrific again. Thanks for the few good weeks ZOS, shame it had to end this quick.

    I liked how it was previously and hated the new look.
  • Audrena
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    Swernik wrote: »
    There have been many posts in the past about an over-saturated image while playing ESO on console with HDR enabled. Since wolfhunter we had a fix that made the game look beautifull.

    Since Wolfhunter you had a patch that basically disabled HDR even when HDR was turned on. The fix, if you want the drab, grey version of the world back, is to turn off HDR ;)
    Koolio wrote: »
    I liked how it was previously and hated the new look.

    The overwhelming consensus was that almost everybody preferred how it was previously. They reverted the change for a good reason.
  • flguy147ub17_ESO
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    My game looks worse today. Way over saturated especially the reds. I have tried everything to change settings and nothing works. Tried it before when the HDR was enabled then when they disabled it my game look way more realistic and natural. Oh well.
  • crjs1
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    I know I preferred the new look last patch! Now we are back to cartoonish over saturation :-( Hope the promised compromise comes quickly as looks silly at moment
  • Swernik
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    My game looks worse today. Way over saturated especially the reds. I have tried everything to change settings and nothing works. Tried it before when the HDR was enabled then when they disabled it my game look way more realistic and natural. Oh well.

    Yes I have the same, this cant be intended since zos themselves have acknowleged the game was way too over saturated.
  • Beardimus
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    Guys you obviously missed the multiple threads about the fact that ZOS inadvertently turned off HDR with Wolfhunter whilst trying to adjust saturation.

    The majority of us were angry at that (after all if you invested in HDR capable technology why wouldn't you want it)

    All they have done is turned it back on as it was done in error. However they are then working on reducing saturation without breaking it, so in the future you will see a middle ground.

    Simple solution for you @Swernik @flguy147ub17_ESO & @crjs1 is turn HDR off. And thus you have the same result as you had last week. No HDR.

    This way round there is a choice, pre fix this update there was no choice for those of us missing the old bright HDR.
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  • Mikuelray
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    Bought a 4k tv and a pro for HDR. Just turn HDR off if you want your dull look back. Simply fix.
  • crjs1
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Guys you obviously missed the multiple threads about the fact that ZOS inadvertently turned off HDR with Wolfhunter whilst trying to adjust saturation.

    The majority of us were angry at that (after all if you invested in HDR capable technology why wouldn't you want it)

    All they have done is turned it back on as it was done in error. However they are then working on reducing saturation without breaking it, so in the future you will see a middle ground.

    Simple solution for you @Swernik @flguy147ub17_ESO & @crjs1 is turn HDR off. And thus you have the same result as you had last week. No HDR.

    This way round there is a choice, pre fix this update there was no choice for those of us missing the old bright HDR.

    The HDR was not turned off last patch, ZOS stated the charges they made had unintended consequences and went too far but HDR was definitely not ‘turned off’. I checked this myself after last patch when turning my own HDR off an on. It was most definitely different in terms of definition and effect (clear when looking at water and sun).

    I am looking forward to a compromise which hopefully everyone will be happy with.
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    Everyone was posting screenshots of the before-Wolfhunter, and damn did it look like it took a dip in acid

    Way too saturated and cartoony. I honestly don’t understand how it could be considered appealing
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    It's a subjective thing sure, and does depend on the quality of your hardware i guess. I bought a TV and setup with HDR in mind and to me the game looks epic with the vibrant colours.

    My TV is professionally colour calibrated which makes a huge difference. I'm sure on standard settings it might look odd as most defaault settings are terribad intended to sell TVs in large bright superstores.

    What's odd in this thread is 3-4 people liking the dull version yet the huge threads with 20 odd pages of comments only had that number throughout that preferred it.

    I think we all concur a slider would be mint. Personally, i requested refunds for all items bought on preWH as post WH they looked dull and awful. In particular the arms packs and ZOS agreed.
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  • REiiGN15
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    It would help ppl understand if you post what TV you have. An OLED, or budget TCL?
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    I think ideally somewhere between where it is now and where it was when “fixed” would be ideal for everyone. The game is wildly over-saturated compared to other HDR titles. It just needs to be toned down; but not completely muted to nothingness like they tried.
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    Troll thread trolls
  • swirve
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    REiiGN15 wrote: »
    It would help ppl understand if you post what TV you have. An OLED, or budget TCL?

    I have a 4K UHD OLEDTV LG... the saturation was great before they turned off HDR when they broke it.
  • weedgenius
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    HDR breaks.... threads about how terrible it looks

    HDR turned back on.... threads about how terrible it looks
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  • Starlock
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    HDR breaks.... threads about how terrible it looks

    HDR turned back on.... threads about how terrible it looks

    Yup. I can't say I'm surprised.
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    Jhalin wrote: »
    Everyone was posting screenshots of the before-Wolfhunter, and damn did it look like it took a dip in acid

    Way too saturated and cartoony. I honestly don’t understand how it could be considered appealing

    If I wanted realistic I wouldn’t play a fantasy game.
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    Back to needing to disable HDR for me :(. I liked the new look. The oversaturation gives me a head ache and makes my wife motion sick.
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  • leepalmer95
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    God all thei forum does it cry about literally everything.

    Fix the HDR problem

    Zos fixes it

    Now it looks bad fml.
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  • msetten
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    I must admit that I wasn’t a fan of the new HDR look, but now the old is back, I do have to get used to it again. Personally I believe that a HDR version that is in the middle of the two versions would be best. The lighting effects of the original version and the coloring of the second version but a little but more color saturation (not as much as the original version has). Or have one or more settings that allows us to slide between the two versions.
    Edited by msetten on October 3, 2018 7:55PM
  • Acrolas
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    So now this leaves us in a sticky situation: if we change it back, there will be players that like the new way better than the old. And they will be correct, just as are the ones who like the old way – this is subjective. We are now in a no-win situation, which is why we haven’t given you guys much information up until this point.

    holy *** it's like that matt guy could see the future or something
    signing off
  • Nova Sky
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    So now this leaves us in a sticky situation: if we change it back, there will be players that like the new way better than the old. And they will be correct, just as are the ones who like the old way – this is subjective. We are now in a no-win situation, which is why we haven’t given you guys much information up until this point.

    holy *** it's like that matt guy could see the future or something

    Problem with that is the "desaturated" look was around for maybe a month. The "saturated" look is what folks with HDR and a 4K-capable television enjoyed (mostly) since for far, far longer.

    As others have noted, HDR can always be turned off in ESO.
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  • LadyLethalla
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    Well I'm very happy they reverted it :smiley:
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  • Davor
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    Jhalin wrote: »
    Everyone was posting screenshots of the before-Wolfhunter, and damn did it look like it took a dip in acid

    Way too saturated and cartoony. I honestly don’t understand how it could be considered appealing

    I have a black and white TV. I don't understand how anyone saying the colours are so much better. I don't see this saturation and cartoony. Your logic. What are you going to say that 3D on TV or in movies don't look good because you don't have the 3D glasses on?

    Or in other words if you are not seeing the picture through a HDR TV or monitor you will not really see the difference.
    Not my quote but I love this saying

    "I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"
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    1. ZOS changes HDR in wolfhunter
    Players: OMG PUT IT BACK

    2. ZOS puts it back with incremental
    Players: OMG PUT IT BACK



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  • dotme
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    Jhalin wrote: »
    Everyone was posting screenshots of the before-Wolfhunter, and damn did it look like it took a dip in acid

    Way too saturated and cartoony. I honestly don’t understand how it could be considered appealing

    HDR pumps up color. An HDR TV knows what to do with it. But when you convert that output (via Playstation screenshot) to JPG, it's way over-saturated. So the screenshots of HDR content won't look like they do on an HDR set.

    Still hoping ZOS introduces more user control over HDR output though. It would be nice to let users set levels according to their tastes. I'd set mine somewhere between the last patch, and this one.
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  • Davor
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    Sigtric wrote: »
    1. ZOS changes HDR in wolfhunter
    Players: OMG PUT IT BACK

    2. ZOS puts it back with incremental
    Players: OMG PUT IT BACK


    We knew this was going to happen. Even someone who represents Zenimax said this. They said they can't make everyone happy, but will try and make the most people happy. Saddly the original poster is in the minority. Or is setup us all up for a good troll thread.
    Not my quote but I love this saying

    "I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"
  • Zepiroth
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    Stop feeding the troll -.-
  • EnikSleestak
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    Yay, now it's so dark I have to run the Meridia collectible to see again! Woohoooooooooo! The real question is WTF is the slider for?
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  • priforce
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    HDR looks horrible for me. I think the flex option is best (give people the choice so everyone can adjust accordingly). HDR is software and most of our tvs are within a generation or two from each other - so no need to dis anyone's setup. Most games give us options to turn HDR on and of in-game and will work for those of us who watch other content on their screens without having to switch over just for ESO.
    Edited by priforce on October 4, 2018 1:27AM
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