PS4 1.40 made HDR over-saturated again

madchuska83

I'm so happy that they've reverted it. The picture on my TV looks absolutely amazing, the colors are warm and vibrant. Thank you, ZOS!

Ingenon

The colors are over saturated with my PS4 connected to my UHD TV 4K. The HDR Brightness slider under Video, Options does nothing. I think that making the HDR Brightness slider adjust the brightness would be a good idea.

Earmack

Swernik wrote: »

There have been many posts in the past about an over-saturated image while playing ESO on console with HDR enabled. Since wolfhunter we had a fix that made the game look beautifull. Now after a few weeks they reverted this and ESO looks horrific again. Thanks for the few good weeks ZOS, shame it had to end this quick.

+1. Its again starts looks over saturated. I like how its looks before, its looks realistic colors, without kill eye.

lagrue

Swernik wrote: »

There have been many posts in the past about an over-saturated image while playing ESO on console with HDR enabled. Since wolfhunter we had a fix that made the game look beautifull. Now after a few weeks they reverted this and ESO looks horrific again. Thanks for the few good weeks ZOS, shame it had to end this quick.

You should have seen the forums when the change of Wolfhunter hit - both XBox and PS4 had 10+ page threads of people collectively losing their minds and demanding ZOS revert it.


ZOS no doubt succumbed to pressure.

Donny_Vito

The problem with these threads is not the people who come here and collectively state their issues, it's the people who follow thereafter and troll them for doing so. Let these people document their problems with HDR, and stop bashing them.

swirve

dotme wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

Everyone was posting screenshots of the before-Wolfhunter, and damn did it look like it took a dip in acid

Way too saturated and cartoony. I honestly don’t understand how it could be considered appealing

HDR pumps up color. An HDR TV knows what to do with it. But when you convert that output (via Playstation screenshot) to JPG, it's way over-saturated. So the screenshots of HDR content won't look like they do on an HDR set.

Still hoping ZOS introduces more user control over HDR output though. It would be nice to let users set levels according to their tastes. I'd set mine somewhere between the last patch, and this one.

Yup... playstation recording is awful for HDR content.

Those with decent HDR set ups csn clearly see the awesome benefit of the change.

danno8

I don't play with HDR, but I thought it was suppose to increase color depth, not just crank the vibrance up to super high levels. There's a difference no?

I am using a non-HDR monitor and yet with all the screenshots people are providing I can see a huge vibrance difference between the two modes. If it was truly HDR, then I shouldn't be able to see a difference on my non-HDR monitor. The fact that I can suggests that it is vibrance that is making the "saturated" look.

This is of course assuming that the screenshotting software and hosting site can both record and display HDR themselves.

Lunerdog

I am happy that they've reverted it to how it was before, looks great to me, but as others have said there is a massive variety to the screens and tv's we use so while it looks great to some it may look bad to others.

Would a colour saturation slider be difficult for Zos to implement ? At least that way folk could set the saturation to what looks good on their particular device.

MacCait

Swernik wrote: »

There have been many posts in the past about an over-saturated image while playing ESO on console with HDR enabled. Since wolfhunter we had a fix that made the game look beautifull. Now after a few weeks they reverted this and ESO looks horrific again. Thanks for the few good weeks ZOS, shame it had to end this quick.

Hey, wow, there IS someone else like me after all lol. I just made a post on this this morning but was shot down by a few who were saying it looks great again.

I switched it on to do my mounts and looked at my glaringly over-saturated characters, and over dark shading and was like wtf??

In my opinion it looks terrible, but it seems the majority prefer the cartoon look to eso rather than a real look. Looking at other games, they all look sharp and real, but eso just looks cartoony now. Funny how a lot prefer that

dotme

MacCait wrote: »

In my opinion it looks terrible, but it seems the majority prefer the cartoon look to eso rather than a real look. Looking at other games, they all look sharp and real, but eso just looks cartoony now. Funny how a lot prefer that

I agree with others that it depends on the TV to a large extent. Colors on mine are more vibrant after the change, but not in a cartoonish sense.

Just one example - I own Hundings Palatial Hall and have a lot of lighting in there. With the original (and now current again) HDR implementation, my torches are orange and throw off an orange glow. Same with fireplaces. Candles and lanterns put out a yellow glow. There's a clear difference in the colors and effects of those two types of light source, and the place looks amazing at night (not blown out though)

When ZOS briefly changed HDR, ALL light sources became the same dull white/yellowish color. It totally changed how the place looked, and not in a positive way.

So I'm happy they reverted, but in the interests of all who use HDR, I would still urge ZOS to put some user preference sliders into future builds.

swirve

danno8 wrote: »

I don't play with HDR, but I thought it was suppose to increase color depth, not just crank the vibrance up to super high levels. There's a difference no?

I am using a non-HDR monitor and yet with all the screenshots people are providing I can see a huge vibrance difference between the two modes. If it was truly HDR, then I shouldn't be able to see a difference on my non-HDR monitor. The fact that I can suggests that it is vibrance that is making the "saturated" look.

This is of course assuming that the screenshotting software and hosting site can both record and display HDR themselves.

Screenshots do not show HDR especially if you are not viewing via a HDR enabled device... lol

Swernik

To all the people who think this is a troll post, it isn't. There seem to be quite a few people who have experienced the same issue as me.

acw37162

I have a 4k tv.

Play on PS4 Pro.

I did not notice/have the issues some x-box players and PS4 players reported.

The game looked better yesterday, its back to when HDR was first enable with almost unnatural colors.

Im hoping they get it ironed out and turn back on whatever they turned off soon.

Krayl

So is this where those of us who didn't like the washed out desaturated look of the wolfhunter "fix" tell the people who are unhappy now to just "buy a better TV" or "Adjust your TV"? Since that's the advice we were given when we noticed the game suddenly looked like garb.

Jhalin

Koolio wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

Everyone was posting screenshots of the before-Wolfhunter, and damn did it look like it took a dip in acid

Way too saturated and cartoony. I honestly don’t understand how it could be considered appealing

If I wanted realistic I wouldn’t play a fantasy game.

If you wanted that level of saturation I might recommend Borderlands. There’s artistically overemphasizing colors in way that draw attention to particular details, and then there’s a freshmen art student upping their photo saturation all over the place because they think it does something other than hurt people’s eyes

Koolio

Jhalin wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

Everyone was posting screenshots of the before-Wolfhunter, and damn did it look like it took a dip in acid

Way too saturated and cartoony. I honestly don’t understand how it could be considered appealing

If I wanted realistic I wouldn’t play a fantasy game.

If you wanted that level of saturation I might recommend Borderlands. There’s artistically overemphasizing colors in way that draw attention to particular details, and then there’s a freshmen art student upping their photo saturation all over the place because they think it does something other than hurt people’s eyes

I just got done with my 3rd full level character on the pre-sequel and have all leveled on Borderlands 2.

It has always been the way it is now. You’ve only seen it a different way for just over a month.

crjs1

Hopefully a slider will be introduced so we can set it how we all like it. Frankly the colour makes my head hurt at moment it’s like someone dropped acid.

Jhalin

Koolio wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

Everyone was posting screenshots of the before-Wolfhunter, and damn did it look like it took a dip in acid

Way too saturated and cartoony. I honestly don’t understand how it could be considered appealing

If I wanted realistic I wouldn’t play a fantasy game.

If you wanted that level of saturation I might recommend Borderlands. There’s artistically overemphasizing colors in way that draw attention to particular details, and then there’s a freshmen art student upping their photo saturation all over the place because they think it does something other than hurt people’s eyes

I just got done with my 3rd full level character on the pre-sequel and have all leveled on Borderlands 2.

It has always been the way it is now. You’ve only seen it a different way for just over a month.

I didn’t realize how bad console had it with the willywonka world coloration. The “awful drab changes” were just standard ESO. That’s what it’s meant to look like, not like candy land. There’s a balance between eyeburning color discrepancies and dull, ZOS needs to reach that balance

danno8

swirve wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

I don't play with HDR, but I thought it was suppose to increase color depth, not just crank the vibrance up to super high levels. There's a difference no?

I am using a non-HDR monitor and yet with all the screenshots people are providing I can see a huge vibrance difference between the two modes. If it was truly HDR, then I shouldn't be able to see a difference on my non-HDR monitor. The fact that I can suggests that it is vibrance that is making the "saturated" look.

This is of course assuming that the screenshotting software and hosting site can both record and display HDR themselves.

Screenshots do not show HDR especially if you are not viewing via a HDR enabled device... lol

Then why do people keep showing comparison screenshots when screenshotting software keeps showing blown out colors instead of proper color depth, even if you have an HDR capable screen.

They should just not bother, lol.

Beardimus

It's clearly a subjective issue, but honnestly I'm.glad it was back. Game looked dreadful with HDR 'off' I'm happy to spend crowns on cosmetics again so for me, and many others its 100% the right call.

HOWEVER they are working on the happy medium or at least a working slider. Which is good.

Those that hate it. Just turn off HDR

MacCait

I suddenly feel like I am playing DC Universe Online again... hurts my eys... feels like it's lost some immersion too. Everything just looks very jarring and cartoon like. Fires look horrid, plant life looks unnatural, colours on armour look freakishly wrong. Just a cartoon version of ESO.

I was away for a long time. I came back after Wolfhunter so it looked better to me then. I also have a brand new 55 inch 4k TV. All games in HDR look absolutely amazing.... except this one. As an ex professional in the art and design industry I would never have stated that the game looked unnsaturated, but many feel that it was. To me this is just waaay over saturated now.

Is balancing saturation in this one game as difficult as balancing PvP?

blnchk

And here we have proof that people only crawl out of their holes to complain. Before it was the world-on-acid crowd, now it's the drab committee.

Anyway, on topic: I remember reading that ZOS is looking for a compromise. Until then, the fix has been reverted.

DestructoKitty

I hate the change. The over saturation looks awful!

GDOFWR420

The game looks better now, looked like crap before. It was dull and showed a lack of vibrance also the HDR wasn't working. I was one of the ones who wanted it reverted to pre-wolfhunter appearance. I have an amazing 4k tv, and felt like I wasn't getting the full advantage.

But for all those who want it back to post-wolfhunter appearance, I hope they come up with a duel option.

Nova Sky

This thread's nowhere near the page lengths of the pro-HDR threads.

Hotdog_23

Personally I am glad to have HDR back.

TheMythicDawn

Nova Sky wrote: »

This thread's nowhere near the page lengths of the pro-HDR threads.

Wha? It's a surprise to you that the people who wanted their game to look like a cartoon cried harder?

leepalmer95

Koolio wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

Everyone was posting screenshots of the before-Wolfhunter, and damn did it look like it took a dip in acid

Way too saturated and cartoony. I honestly don’t understand how it could be considered appealing

If I wanted realistic I wouldn’t play a fantasy game.

If you wanted that level of saturation I might recommend Borderlands. There’s artistically overemphasizing colors in way that draw attention to particular details, and then there’s a freshmen art student upping their photo saturation all over the place because they think it does something other than hurt people’s eyes

I just got done with my 3rd full level character on the pre-sequel and have all leveled on Borderlands 2.

It has always been the way it is now. You’ve only seen it a different way for just over a month.

I haven't played the pre-sequel is it good?