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So they nerfed Swift, they nerfed Boundless Storm, but they didn't nerf SPEED POTS?
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NobleX35✭✭✭✭Good thing too, running speed pots is already has a built-in trade off of not being able to run other pots."Only the dead have seen the end of war."24 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Good thing too, running speed pots is already has a built-in trade off of not being able to run other pots.
LOL, no it doesn't. Stamina builds can still run speed pots and get lots of other good buffs built into the potion, Magicka builds are SCREWED.
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Good thing too, running speed pots is already has a built-in trade off of not being able to run other pots.
Yup agreed.
And most of us said to not touch swift/speed, only forward momentum. Now everyone that asked for speed nerfs knows why most of us were against touching it lol.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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NobleX35✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »
Magicka builds aren't meant to be as mobile as stamina builds...so what's your point?"Only the dead have seen the end of war."15 -
ccmedaddy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Such a big oversight. Stam builds will still have 100% uptime on Major Expedition while magicka mobility (which is already a joke) has been nerfed to oblivion.
I don't need them to nerf stam speed pot-- just give us the magicka equivalent.
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Zaryc✭✭✭I was wondering the same. This won't change anything as most builds run speed pots anyway. The duration nerf of Major Expedition also won't effect heavy armour builds as they usually use lingering health + speed pots. Another nerf for magicka imo since there are no magicka speed pots.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »
Magicka builds aren't meant to be as mobile as stamina builds...so what's your point?
Says who? Where does it say that?#CAREBEARMASTERRACE15 -
Ariades_swe✭✭✭✭✭This solves nothing as long as you have 100 percent uptime on speed pots.
Stam classes still dont need to sacrifice alot to get enough speed where it screws with the broken targetting system.
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Sarousse✭✭✭✭✭
✭The steed up was a damn dumb idea.
As a stamsorc even with swift nerf I'll stick at 71% perma speed thanks to the steed up while having insane hitpoints regen in heavy armor and huge melee power thanks to plate offensive armor.
Nothing changes.
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Zaryc✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »
Magicka builds aren't meant to be as mobile as stamina builds...so what's your point?
This is funny because why should someone wearing heavy armour be faster then someone wearing light armour? Doesn't make sense tho.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ariades_swe wrote: »Stam classes will still be too speedy for esos combat to handle.
Stam classes still dont need to sacrifice alot to get enough speed where it messes with the broken targetting system.
EXACTLY. They didn't do ANYTHING to address the underlying issues with targeting, they just nerfed a bunch of stuff that didn't need nerfs because it was easy.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE5 -
NobleX35✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Emma_Overload wrote: »
Magicka builds aren't meant to be as mobile as stamina builds...so what's your point?
Says who? Where does it say that?
It's the nature of the different spec's...maybe I should rephrase and say medium armor stamina builds. If you nerf major expedition pots then you push people further away from running medium armor, as mobility is one of the main forms of defense for this armor type. Magicka builds have greater burst heals and shields (albeit being nerfed) as their primary forms of defense. Besides...magicka builds can run speed pots too, it's not exclusive to stamina builds. At the vary least you should be asking for a magicka speed pot variant rather than asking to nerf the stamina oriented variant."Only the dead have seen the end of war."2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Ariades_swe wrote: »Stam classes will still be too speedy for esos combat to handle.
Stam classes still dont need to sacrifice alot to get enough speed where it messes with the broken targetting system.
EXACTLY. They didn't do ANYTHING to address the underlying issues with targeting, they just nerfed a bunch of stuff that didn't need nerfs because it was easy.
Yea because they wasted time on making swift changes instead of going after the hitbox/lag issues causing it lol.
Back to the snare meta we all hated for our mag builds for 3-4 years lol.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerSpeed pots will actually be addressed next week; we just ran out of time to get it into today's patch, that's all.34 -
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✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Speed pots will actually be addressed next week; we just ran out of time to get it into today's patch, that's all.
Thanks!Flawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info2 -
Ariades_swe✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Speed pots will actually be addressed next week; we just ran out of time to get it into today's patch, that's all.
Awesome!
Give it 12 secs duration or whatever the unstoppable buff is.
Edited by Ariades_swe on October 1, 2018 6:07PM3 -
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✭Bird of Prey got a nerf from 10s to 4s??? Really zos??? What is wrong with you!!! Why are you so desperate to force the handful of PvP Magdens to quit... they are underperforming so bad that I’m actually excited when I see another one in PvP... nerfing swift was fair but nerfing the expedition uptime on falcons swiftness is absolutely absurd as it was one of the only things Magden had going for it... if this goes live... that’s it... there will be ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO PLAY MAGDEN IN PVP8 -
Zaryc✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Speed pots will actually be addressed next week; we just ran out of time to get it into today's patch, that's all.
Good to hear. This will hopefully balance access and uptime for Major Expedition. But 4 seconds of it on most skills seems a bit low tbh.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭So they add swift and problems with speed builds are created so OK ZOS fixes by nerfing every form of expedition in sight instead of just swift. Why precision bomb when you can nuke? lol
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Myux✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Speed pots will actually be addressed next week; we just ran out of time to get it into today's patch, that's all.
oh bless u! ill go delete my thread then lol0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@Minno Why is there not a Speed/Sorcery/Magicka pot? I would prefer to having magicka characters use skills for mobility, but they have all been nerfed so hard I doubt they'll ever come back. Is a magicka speed pot the best we can hope for at this point?
Nope, judging from Gina's post above, speed pots are going to take a HUGE hit.
It is probably best to get your speed via race against time or run mist form next patch.
The forward momentum changes are much needed, but the speed nerfs across the board ruin this for mag builds looking to remove mist form off their bars.
Back to the 2014-2017 ESO movement meta lol.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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brookusSoul ShrivenInstead of nerfing Swift/speed pots, which are useful in other areas outside of pvp (harvesting, MTing for vCR, etc), why not just have speed impacted by battlespirit? So the effect is halved, or whatever, when you are in a pvp zone. Seems pretty simple.7
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Instead of nerfing Swift/speed pots, which are useful in other areas outside of pvp (harvesting, MTing for vCR, etc), why not just have speed impacted by battlespirit? So the effect is halved, or whatever, when you are in a pvp zone. Seems pretty simple.
It possible they don't want speed for PVE players so easily.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As a Magplar the stam/immovable/speed were quite handy for getting through choke points.
You actually need more stam when sprinting, better than a magic version of a speed pot which would be useless.Edited by TequilaFire on October 1, 2018 6:14PM2 -
Zelos✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »What's up with that?
Lol do you really need everything? They nerfed swift like everyone wanted and it's still not enough for you?Aeonhack - AD Stamina Nightblade - 5 Star General
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Creator and user of "Questionable" addons and game mechanics.6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Speed pots will actually be addressed next week; we just ran out of time to get it into today's patch, that's all.
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Teeba_Shei✭✭✭✭✭They've been having an overreaction to everything lately. You should slowly tip the scales not smash them.Edited by Teeba_Shei on October 1, 2018 6:16PM9
