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Looking for table that shows all Major/Minor buffs each class has access to
BaylorCorvette
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As title says, I'm looking for a table another user created that categorizes each class and lists each Major & Minor buff they have access to through their class skills and passives.
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This one is from a thread in January, I don't know where to find a more up to date one.
Summerset dated listings: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/284053/buffs-and-debuffs-a-full-list-updated-for-summerset
UESP Listings: http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Major_Expedition#ExpeditionEdited by Turelus on September 26, 2018 6:55PM@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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BaylorCorvette✭✭✭✭✭This one is from a thread in January, I don't know where to find a more up to date one.
Good enough, thanks @Turelus !Supreme Leader Corvette - StamSorc
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Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Just in case anyone needed a reference that demonstrates why NBs are on top and sorcs are simply an outdated class in the current meta...9 -
BaylorCorvette✭✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Just in case anyone needed a reference that demonstrates why NBs are on top and sorcs are simply an outdated class in the current meta...
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Ir0nB34r✭✭✭https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/284053/buffs-and-debuffs-a-full-list-updated-for-summerset/p1
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Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Staring at Sorc Debuff awesomeness
It really is amazing. I play every class, have taken all through VMA, and have done at least 2 of each to undaunted 9. Each month I try to get 6-8 toons on the PVP 30 day leaderboard for rewards. In other words, I play them all. Certainly some more than others, but I play them all.
I was absolutely flabbergasted the first time I saw this chart. I didnt realize quite how bad sorc had it until I saw this.
Everyone has Major Defile except sorcs. Everyone has Major Maim, except Sorcs. Everyone has Major Fracture, except sorcs and templars. Everyone has major breach, except sorcs and DKs and templars (edited to correct major breach and fracture).
Sorcs have 5 Major buffs/debuffs. Wardens have 15, NBS and DKs have 12, and Templars have 7 (templars need some love too IMO).
Of a sorcs 5 major buffs, zero are unique. Every major buff a Sorc has, a NB has. Heck, lets take them one at a time.
Major Berzerk: NBs have this and minor berzerk to boot.
Major Ward: All classses have it
Major Resolve: All Classes have it
Major Brutality: All but templar have it
Major Sorcery: All but templar have it
So basically, of the 5, 2 are shared by all, 2 are the easiest buffs to give yourself with a potion and shared by most, and 1 is tied to an ultimate where the other class with it (NB) is tied to a regular skill.
Dear Combat Team,
If you are looking for the first place to start with balance, you dont need to look any further. It's a bad joke at this point.Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on September 27, 2018 12:15AM6 -
KingExecration✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Staring at Sorc Debuff awesomeness
It really is amazing. I play every class, have taken all through VMA, and have done at least 2 of each to undaunted 9. Each month I try to get 6-8 toons on the PVP 30 day leaderboard for rewards. In other words, I play them all. Certainly some more than others, but I play them all.
I was absolutely flabbergasted the first time I saw this chart. I didnt realize quite how bad sorc had it until I saw this.
Everyone has Major Defile except sorcs. Everyone has Major Maim, except Sorcs. Everyone has Major Fracture, except sorcs. Everyone has major breach, except sorcs and DKs.
Sorcs have 5 Major buffs/debuffs. Wardens have 15, NBS and DKs have 12, and Templars have 7 (templars need some love too IMO).
Of a sorcs 5 major buffs, zero are unique. Every major buff a Sorc has, a NB has. Heck, lets take them one at a time.
Major Berzerk: NBs have this and minor berzerk to boot.
Major Ward: All classses have it
Major Resolve: All Classes have it
Major Brutality: All but templar have it
Major Sorcery: All but templar have it
So basically, of the 5, 2 are shared by all, 2 are the easiest buffs to give yourself with a potion and shared by most, and 1 is tied to an ultimate where the other class with it (NB) is tied to a regular skill.
Dear Combat Team,
If you are looking for the first place to start with balance, you dont need to look any further. It's a bad joke at this point.
Unless I’m outdated on my knowledge but Templar doesn’t get major fracture or major breach I don’t think.0 -
BaylorCorvette✭✭✭✭✭KingExecration wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Staring at Sorc Debuff awesomeness
It really is amazing. I play every class, have taken all through VMA, and have done at least 2 of each to undaunted 9. Each month I try to get 6-8 toons on the PVP 30 day leaderboard for rewards. In other words, I play them all. Certainly some more than others, but I play them all.
I was absolutely flabbergasted the first time I saw this chart. I didnt realize quite how bad sorc had it until I saw this.
Everyone has Major Defile except sorcs. Everyone has Major Maim, except Sorcs. Everyone has Major Fracture, except sorcs. Everyone has major breach, except sorcs and DKs.
Sorcs have 5 Major buffs/debuffs. Wardens have 15, NBS and DKs have 12, and Templars have 7 (templars need some love too IMO).
Of a sorcs 5 major buffs, zero are unique. Every major buff a Sorc has, a NB has. Heck, lets take them one at a time.
Major Berzerk: NBs have this and minor berzerk to boot.
Major Ward: All classses have it
Major Resolve: All Classes have it
Major Brutality: All but templar have it
Major Sorcery: All but templar have it
So basically, of the 5, 2 are shared by all, 2 are the easiest buffs to give yourself with a potion and shared by most, and 1 is tied to an ultimate where the other class with it (NB) is tied to a regular skill.
Dear Combat Team,
If you are looking for the first place to start with balance, you dont need to look any further. It's a bad joke at this point.
Unless I’m outdated on my knowledge but Templar doesn’t get major fracture or major breach I don’t think.
Correct it is Minor.Edited by BaylorCorvette on September 27, 2018 12:12AMSupreme Leader Corvette - StamSorc
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Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭KingExecration wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Staring at Sorc Debuff awesomeness
It really is amazing. I play every class, have taken all through VMA, and have done at least 2 of each to undaunted 9. Each month I try to get 6-8 toons on the PVP 30 day leaderboard for rewards. In other words, I play them all. Certainly some more than others, but I play them all.
I was absolutely flabbergasted the first time I saw this chart. I didnt realize quite how bad sorc had it until I saw this.
Everyone has Major Defile except sorcs. Everyone has Major Maim, except Sorcs. Everyone has Major Fracture, except sorcs. Everyone has major breach, except sorcs and DKs.
Sorcs have 5 Major buffs/debuffs. Wardens have 15, NBS and DKs have 12, and Templars have 7 (templars need some love too IMO).
Of a sorcs 5 major buffs, zero are unique. Every major buff a Sorc has, a NB has. Heck, lets take them one at a time.
Major Berzerk: NBs have this and minor berzerk to boot.
Major Ward: All classses have it
Major Resolve: All Classes have it
Major Brutality: All but templar have it
Major Sorcery: All but templar have it
So basically, of the 5, 2 are shared by all, 2 are the easiest buffs to give yourself with a potion and shared by most, and 1 is tied to an ultimate where the other class with it (NB) is tied to a regular skill.
Dear Combat Team,
If you are looking for the first place to start with balance, you dont need to look any further. It's a bad joke at this point.
Unless I’m outdated on my knowledge but Templar doesn’t get major fracture or major breach I don’t think.
Good catch, I read the minor fracture/breach the templars have as major. At least the access to these gives stamplars a meaningful spot in a raid with power of the light. As I already stated though, templars need some love too. haha
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usmguy1234✭✭✭✭✭
✭You guys think Sorcs are the worst class according on that table ?
Do you have any data to prove otherwise?Zaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
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ccfeeling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭usmguy1234 wrote: »
No , I don't .
But there are many non Sorc buffs in the game we can use , we could access those minor and major buffs / debuffs via weapons / armor / world / guild and Alliance War skills .
Sorc is very strong .0 -
SirAndy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Just in case anyone needed a reference that demonstrates why NBs are on top and sorcs are simply an outdated class in the current meta...
ZOS:
Thanks for posting that table, we looked at it and decided it would be a great idea to add a 1 second cast time to Sorc shields!
Edited by SirAndy on September 27, 2018 1:59AM0 -
usmguy1234✭✭✭✭✭
✭usmguy1234 wrote: »
No , I don't .
But there are many non Sorc buffs in the game we can use , we could access those minor and major buffs / debuffs via weapons / armor / world / guild and Alliance War skills .
Sorc is very strong .
Right, but we are talking about class specific buffs/debuffs. Every class has access to the options you listed. The reason this is an issue is because it makes sorc a very one dimensional class. Having more access to a larger amount of buffs/debuffs allows other classes to effectively distribute stats elsewhere thus making them more dynamic and ultimately more effective than sorcerers.Edited by usmguy1234 on September 27, 2018 2:12AMZaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
Soul Razor- Altmer Magsorc
Les Drago- Redguard Stamdk
Eirius- Altmer Magdk
Stormifeth- Altmer Magplar
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Just in case anyone needed a reference that demonstrates why NBs are on top and sorcs are simply an outdated class in the current meta...
Not matter what type of nb you use you aren't going to use half of the buffs.
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