Why can't we hide each individual armor piece (like hats)?

ck37090 · September 2018

With all the fluff that is in the game (ie. tatoos/skins/etc...) it would seem to make sense that they would allow you to hide each piece or armor and not just hats so people could display such things as they wanted...no?

Micah_Bayer · September 2018

Because there is a cast time

Thrain · September 2018

The same reason why we cant hide vampirism^^

Bladehawk · September 2018

Because a bunch of crazy naked people running around in combat isn't immersive. Now, if NPCs in previous TES games had done so, sure. But, even with magic shields and other magical nonsense, people wear clothes and armor in Tamriel. Who knows why? They just do.

You can, of course, remove your armor and fight that way - it's probably a viable way to clear some of the zones at max level, given how easy the overworld content seems to be. Then, your pathetic foes will see your tattoos and other assorted bodily adornments in all their glory as they're punched to death.

swippy · September 2018

maybe because then we'd have even more people asking for difficult-to-code things, like when they want to specifically hide only the "hip flaps" section or the "crotch-flaps" section of their Legs armor, even though those parts aren't coded separately. lots of people just don't understand exactly what they're asking for, so i suspect the devs have to regard all of us with a "give them an inch" mentality.

the Outfit System was meant to hold us off longer than this, i suspect. adding a "naked" option (instead of an un-Outfitted slot defaulting to equipped armor as it does now) sounds reasonable to me to accomplish, but i don't really know anything and that would require lots of people to be both passionate and specific. it's a rare combination

ck37090 · September 2018

...I don't know...and maybe it is just me...but I don't see why they would sell all these tatoos and stuff when you pretty much have to cover it up with armor.

TheShadowScout · September 2018

Because why should they spend time coding this for no extra profit??

But as I said before:

TheShadowScout wrote: »

The most reasonable thing we can expect...
...is for them to sell "invisible armor" motiv pages in the crown store.

I mean, the suits in charge certainly won't send a code-jockey to spend their paid time programming the hide function for all outfit slots without wanting to see some profit, right?

But selling people the option... that would appeal to their shriveled greedy little hearts, right?

As for the lore... well, I already said it. "Invisible Armor". Enchanting your sturdy armor with an invisibility spell, to lure your foe into a false sense of security...
I mean, look at this guy:

So maybe someday they might do that, and give us "invisible armor" motiv pages in crown crates... or if they feel generous, perhaps even as "armor style unlock" much like the weapon style packs we are getting nowadays...

Imperial_Voice · September 2018

I support this even though i know it ends in nude Cryodiil battles.

GimpyPorcupine · September 2018

We could finally have that Pants Off Dance Off.

BigBragg · September 2018

Imperial_Voice wrote: »

I support this even though i know it ends in nude Cryodiil battles.

I support this because it ends in nude Cyrodiil battles!

p.s. Hip flaps are the top priority.

warabi · September 2018

Thrain wrote: »

The same reason why we cant hide vampirism^^

*sighs* I wish I could hide being a vamp. I'd pay good money for it.

Anyway, I wish we had the option to at least hide shoulders. Some of them are just huge and ugly.

MacCait · September 2018

Bladehawk wrote: »

Because a bunch of crazy naked people running around in combat isn't immersive. Now, if NPCs in previous TES games had done so, sure. But, even with magic shields and other magical nonsense, people wear clothes and armor in Tamriel. Who knows why? They just do.

You can, of course, remove your armor and fight that way - it's probably a viable way to clear some of the zones at max level, given how easy the overworld content seems to be. Then, your pathetic foes will see your tattoos and other assorted bodily adornments in all their glory as they're punched to death.

NOrds in game walk around bare chested... Sai sahan in the harborage story has shouler armour, but no chest armour... just saying

AuraNebula · September 2018

It would be nice to at least be able to hide shoulder and hip flaps or whatever they're called.

Tonestar34 · September 2018

I actually asked a similar question a few weeks back. I agree I'd like the option to un cover up the shoulders. Someone from Zenimax actually replied to the post! Its something they are considering.

harlam · September 2018

Bladehawk wrote: »

Because a bunch of crazy naked people running around in combat isn't immersive. Now, if NPCs in previous TES games had done so, sure. But, even with magic shields and other magical nonsense, people wear clothes and armor in Tamriel. Who knows why? They just do.

But to be able to hide gloves and shoulders isnt such a huge ask. Maybe chest pieces at a stretch, or at least more "vest"/sleeveless styles to set in outfits wouldnt go amiss in my opinion.

I know we shouldn't make comparisons across games (but I'm going to haha), but in WoW I can hide things like shoulders and tabards and so on but still have them equipped to create a slightly more personalised outfit.

On that note, it would be nice to be able to represent a guild with their name below yours without having to equip a tabard, or at least hide it visually like helms so it doesnt clash with a chosen outfit

*edit: Fixed a typo

weedgenius · September 2018

Gina has said recently that they are aware people want this and hinted that it will be coming in the future. Maybe someone else can link it, I don’t remember where she posted it.

Tonestar34 · September 2018

This was the post

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi all

We have seen requests from our players to have the option to hide specific equipment slot visuals, and it is something we'd like to offer in the future.

weedgenius · September 2018

Tonestar34 wrote: »

This was the post

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi all

We have seen requests from our players to have the option to hide specific equipment slot visuals, and it is something we'd like to offer in the future.

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Oops, Jess not Gina. Thanks @Tonestar34

Tonestar34 · September 2018

No worries mate.

Bladehawk · September 2018

harlam wrote: »

Bladehawk wrote: »

Because a bunch of crazy naked people running around in combat isn't immersive. Now, if NPCs in previous TES games had done so, sure. But, even with magic shields and other magical nonsense, people wear clothes and armor in Tamriel. Who knows why? They just do.

But to be able to hide gloves and shoulders isnt such a huge ask. Maybe chest pieces at a stretch, or at least more "vest"/sleeveless styles to set in outfits wouldnt go amiss in my opinion.

I know we shouldn't make comparisons across games (but I'm going to haha), but in WoW I can hide things like shoulders and tabards and so on but still have them equipped to create a slightly more personalised outfit.

On that note, it would be nice to be able to represent a guild with their name below yours without having to equip a tabard, or at least hide it visually like helms so it doesnt clash with a chosen outfit

*edit: Fixed a typo

Yeah, hiding shoulders is almost a necessity on male draenei. Don't get me wrong; I wouldn't be opposed to more slots having a hidden option, particularly shoulders and gloves, but typically it ends up in people asking, "if we can hide X, why not Y?" (like this thread). Slippery slope, inch/mile, etc. The simple answer is that it's arbitrary and, depending on how much time/resources have to be devoted to implementing it, it might not be worth the cost. Helms and cloaks (if present) are the most common slots to have a hidden option because 1) people spend lots of time customizing faces and 2) cloaks can have awful clipping issues. Or, sometimes, helmets are oversized and you get a bobblehead effect. Beyond those, I don't expect any hidden armor options in any MMO I play.

My initial comment was more in response to the desire to show off full-body tattoos, thus hiding chest/leg armor.

harlam · September 2018

Bladehawk wrote: »

My initial comment was more in response to the desire to show off full-body tattoos, thus hiding chest/leg armor.

I agree totally. Thats why I'm interested in seeing more sleeveless chest-pieces as I like my hard hitting melee chars to show off their intentionally massive arms and their tattoos too.

Agree with a few comments I've seen saying what's the point in tattoos etc if we are never really able to show them off (As I heavily tattooed person in reality, I agree there haha), but also agree that we cant just hide everything or there would be naked chaos!

Saucy_Jack · September 2018

The REAL question is why - even though the assets already exist within the game - isn't Sai Sahan's beard style available to players?

GIMME DAT BEARDO

ghastley · September 2018

If there's already the bathing towel costume, then why not allow outfits with the same coverage? Every slot should have a "hide" option. Barefoot Khajiits/Argonians, bare-chested barbarians, invisible pauldrons, there's a reason for each one. We believe that's the easiest way to implement, too.

The one step further I'd like is to have the belt-dependent stuff (tassets etc.) as part of the waist slot. If it hangs from the belt, why is it counted as chest? Leave the existing styles the way they are, if you must, but make anything new work logically.

ArchMikem · September 2018

Maybe cause people would adventure in their underwear.

Chronocidal · September 2018

+1 for hide outfit pieces

mostly for the gods damned ugly shoulders that levitate, fail to attach to anything, threaten to get stuck in doorways unless you enter sideways

but also for the gods awful butt/crotch/hip flaps which 9/10 are both aesthetically and functionally displeasing

though I suppose some hip flaps do at least mitigate the way weapons float beside a slim-hipped toon due to a failure in the avatar modelling and equipment model hanging points

idk · September 2018

Zos has stated in these forums they are looking into it. Of course I expect they do not want characters to be running around in their undies so I expect it will stop short of that extreme but should end up permitting hiding other armor pieces.

newtinmpls · September 2018

...and this is why we can't have nice things ....

Oh, wait they are working on it...??

Lylith · September 2018

shoulders need to be an option, first.

whatever else goes is fine, too, ofc.

Saucy_Jack · September 2018

To be honest, I have no idea why anyone would be whining about immersion. There's a farmable CLANNFEAR HEAD currently, so it's not like people adventuring around in their underwear is any less likely than someone adventuring around in, say, A GIANT FREAKING CLANNFEAR HEAD.

I guess what I'm saying is that if you don't want people hero-ing around in their underwear because "it'll break immersion", you need to build a bridge and get over yourself.

starkerealm · September 2018

ck37090 wrote: »

With all the fluff that is in the game (ie. tatoos/skins/etc...) it would seem to make sense that they would allow you to hide each piece or armor and not just hats so people could display such things as they wanted...no?

I assume to cut down on the players running around naked... but we already get that with the Nordic Bather's Towel... so... *shrugs*

I'd like to be able to hide shoulders and belts on some characters, so, I mean, I don't disagree with you.