An example why sorcerer shields need something done to them and why overload needed nerfed

ezio45 · September 2018

ezio45 wrote: »

So what your saying is, magsorc can kill alot of players who are ALL half there level or below who are playing poorly..... with that sorcs ultimate.....

what about all those magblades with destro ultis that kill literally 15 players at one time that are all max lvl.... does that need a nerf? i mean at least sorcs terrible evil ultimate you have to kill them individually.....

what about stamblades who can do that exact same thing? who can rip through players half there lvl with ambush incap. does that need a nerf?

ZOS BTW THIS IS SARCASM, OVERLOAD DESTRO AND INCAP ALL DONT DESERVE A NERF

does soul tether need a nerf???? thats a class ult that can kill 10's of player at once

again zos...no.... no nerfs....

Ozazz · September 2018

Jake1576 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/vWOlXk0Zqvc someone explain to me why sorcerer's should be able to to have all that defense and hit like a truck I hope zos keeps some counter play to shields and goes through with the overload light attack Nerf

you take a clip of using elegant while camping on a resource smacking some pugs then justify these upcoming nerfs,
good one.
you know how many clips i see of other classes destroying hordes of players.
maybe ill start posting them on forums begging for nerfs.

Ozazz · September 2018

ezio45 wrote: »

So what your saying is, magsorc can kill alot of players who are ALL half there level or below who are playing poorly..... with that sorcs ultimate.....

what about all those magblades with destro ultis that kill literally 15 players at one time that are all max lvl.... does that need a nerf? i mean at least sorcs terrible evil ultimate you have to kill them individually.....

what about stamblades who can do that exact same thing? who can rip through players half there lvl with ambush incap. does that need a nerf?

ZOS BTW THIS IS SARCASM, OVERLOAD DESTRO AND INCAP ALL DONT DESERVE A NERF

too late theyre going after them next

Ozazz · September 2018

webrgesner wrote: »

if sorc can already get bursted quick i cant wait next patch

why is that?
you realize your kill 20 sorcerer quest will have to be dropped every time?

Girl_Number8 · September 2018

Apherius wrote: »

Yeah and Bomblade are fine, Vicious death, proxi deto, soul tether then sap sap.

Jake1576 wrote: »

where is the difficulty in that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3-uFxcC2bk

If you die to a bomber you deserve it ~ There are so many counters to bombers it is not even funny. Also, where is the difficulty in a zerg~?

Though this thread is a joke. Soon there will be one class to play called boring~

Sorcys die just fine but instead of buffing the other classes, Zos treats the game like a red headed stepchild and makes is worse, always~

usmguy1234 · September 2018

Jake1576 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/vWOlXk0Zqvc someone explain to me why sorcerer's should be able to to have all that defense and hit like a truck I hope zos keeps some counter play to shields and goes through with the overload light attack Nerf

So you're going to say that sorc is more powerful than this?

https://youtu.be/YpBG9h_Ic1k

Kadoin · September 2018

Considering every stamina build can do that without shield stacking or an ult, what's your point?

nursingninja · September 2018

one of the reasons that I chose sorc shields as part of my build was that they were already nerfed. I thought I'd be left alone and could just rock a little less DPS no biggie. This is a shame.

Lylith · September 2018

idk wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

I hope zos keeps some counter play to shields and goes through with the overload light attack Nerf

Zos stated they will make shields not interruptible which removes any counterplay. One second activation is not counterplay, it just makes the skill useless.

It also means that if this hits live Zos will have to revert it after seeing how poorly they thought this one out or make it more difficult for stamina to use active dodge roll. It would be imbalanced for stam to have greater defenses.

I also have to agree with the post quoted below

grannas211 wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/vWOlXk0Zqvc someone explain to me why sorcerer's should be able to to have all that defense and hit like a truck I hope zos keeps some counter play to shields and goes through with the overload light attack Nerf

This video proves what every Sorc has already known. They are great at smashing bad players. Not sure your point?

nah, they'll just jack around with shields, patch after patch, just like rune cage and they will end up even more useless than ever.

Jake1576 · September 2018

nursingninja wrote: »

one of the reasons that I chose sorc shields as part of my build was that they were already nerfed. I thought I'd be left alone and could just rock a little less DPS no biggie. This is a shame.

Lol they just need a little more of a Nerf then maybe they will be alright

Zoal_AUG · September 2018

Best representation why sorc needed to evolve

Sebar80 · September 2018

This is shocking video, sorc deserve their fate!!! Now let's have a look at this video of a NB and think how to respond to it, surely a buff is required

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S5jWUNYakGg

WuffyCerulei · September 2018

I personally don't care about the Overload change. I only used it for the third bar. But I still stand with shields not needing a cast time. It's not just sorcs who are gonna suffer. With the Annulment cast time, magdens, magplars, magblades, and magDKs all suffer, in pve or pvp.

Biro123 · September 2018

Sebar80 wrote: »

This is shocking video, sorc deserve their fate!!! Now let's have a look at this video of a NB and think how to respond to it, surely a buff is required https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S5jWUNYakGg

Well, there were a few where he didn't get them all - and I even saw him die once!!!

They should really nerf sorcs some more!

d3adpain · September 2018

SORC OVERPOWERED CONFIRMED
#DELETESORC
lol

Kadoin · September 2018

Sebar80 wrote: »

This is shocking video, sorc deserve their fate!!! Now let's have a look at this video of a NB and think how to respond to it, surely a buff is required https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S5jWUNYakGg

How to respond to it?

Not stacking on flags like an idiot, and expecting a bomb on flags. NBs come after me so often in Cyro that I practically have muscle memory to break free or block instantly. If on templar in such a situation hit rememberance, spam springs, or ward the weakest person around so their bomb attempts fail (I've also stopped it on my DK many times by simply killing the NB and always keeping mutagen on people near flag). The result? I stop bombs and destro trains all the time... well, not that time I sneezed.

Mayrael · September 2018

And this is the reason of patches like this. Newbies get rekt by experienced player, then they run to ZOS crying that this bad man/woman killed them all alone.
And what ZOS does? Balances the game AROUND UNEXPERIENCED LOW LEVEL PLAYERS, because devs are just like them. They don't have an idea about their game, they are just like these potatoes on this movie.

Zoal_AUG · September 2018

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Mayrael wrote: »

And this is the reason of patches like this. Newbies get rekt by experienced player, then they run to ZOS crying that this bad man/woman killed them all alone.
And what ZOS does? Balances the game AROUND UNEXPERIENCED LOW LEVEL PLAYERS, because devs are just like them. They don't have an idea about their game, they are just like these potatoes on this movie.

LOL i want to see that exp player harder class. You should be happy ur skill will still carry u even without ez mode right? just now ppl wont complain when u wreck them. Why do u complain after mag sorc is not "competetive enough for you" Just play other char or its just that ur "experience" just works when u play shieldstacker class with ez burst sustain and mobilitiy. I think u take experience for ez mode.

Sebar80 · September 2018

Following op logic. This

Kadoin wrote: »

Sebar80 wrote: »

This is shocking video, sorc deserve their fate!!! Now let's have a look at this video of a NB and think how to respond to it, surely a buff is required https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S5jWUNYakGg

How to respond to it?

Not stacking on flags like an idiot, and expecting a bomb on flags. NBs come after me so often in Cyro that I practically have muscle memory to break free or block instantly. If on templar in such a situation hit rememberance, spam springs, or ward the weakest person around so their bomb attempts fail (I've also stopped it on my DK many times by simply killing the NB and always keeping mutagen on people near flag). The result? I stop bombs and destro trains all the time... well, not that time I sneezed.

Following op logic, new and inexpirienced players should not be killed easily under any circumstances. So if shielding sorc deserve a nerf due to killing 3 players under cp cap. Nb bomb blade build should be nerfd to the ground cause you can kill 20+ surprised pvprs with no effort. Instead cloaking nb were recently buffed with detection indicator. No risk in bombing now, only benefits.

Lets measure all skills classes using the same measuring stick

Mayrael · September 2018

Zoal_AUG wrote: »

Expe

Mayrael wrote: »

And this is the reason of patches like this. Newbies get rekt by experienced player, then they run to ZOS crying that this bad man/woman killed them all alone.
And what ZOS does? Balances the game AROUND UNEXPERIENCED LOW LEVEL PLAYERS, because devs are just like them. They don't have an idea about their game, they are just like these potatoes on this movie.

LOL i want to see that exp player harder class. You should be happy ur skill will still carry u even without ez mode right? just now ppl wont complain when u wreck them. Why do u complain after mag sorc is not "competetive enough for you" Just play other char or its just that ur "experience" just works when u play shieldstacker class with ez burst sustain and mobilitiy. I think u take experience for ez mode.

Dude I have played every class in PvP except of stamplars and guess what? I killed MagSorcs when they were much stronger than now, maybe you should get some "experience" and learn how to kill players not just relay on nerfing others?

Edit:
Oh right... You joined June 18 this year... Sorry what do I know about the game, you're far more experienced than I am. I'm here barely over 4 years.

Reistr_the_Unbroken · September 2018

Zoal_AUG wrote: »

Expe

Mayrael wrote: »

And this is the reason of patches like this. Newbies get rekt by experienced player, then they run to ZOS crying that this bad man/woman killed them all alone.
And what ZOS does? Balances the game AROUND UNEXPERIENCED LOW LEVEL PLAYERS, because devs are just like them. They don't have an idea about their game, they are just like these potatoes on this movie.

LOL i want to see that exp player harder class. You should be happy ur skill will still carry u even without ez mode right? just now ppl wont complain when u wreck them. Why do u complain after mag sorc is not "competetive enough for you" Just play other char or its just that ur "experience" just works when u play shieldstacker class with ez burst sustain and mobilitiy. I think u take experience for ez mode.

Wow I’m getting a headache trying to read this jumbled up trash. Do us all a favor and learn English again.

Lyss1991 · September 2018

Us PvE players are gonna feel this change too..Trials are gonna suck when we cant instantly defend ourselves.

They say they did this to make healers relevant again, But healers were never irrelevant. Maybe in dungeons when people are doing massive dps and burn everythibg down, But there are still plenty of times I pull out my healer.

This is a crappy nerf and I think the cast times need to go. Leave the crit dmg, Hell even make the shield take a little less dmg...But dont add a freakin cast time.