Suggestion: Discount Percentage on Villa, if we dont hit the goal.

NoTimeToWait · September 2018

Chaquinho89 wrote: »

We've already hit the goal, ZOS had it already set since the beginning, they just want to make it interesting and have everyone working together and stuff...
Seriously, they won't put out an event behind an extremely expensive DLC paywall and have everyone "punished" in the end for not having hit their (secret) goal.
So don't worry, they'll announce the 100% in like two days from the end of the event...

That would be not very good, if ZOS made it obvious they've tampered with progress percentage (of course they can tamper with it in many not so obvious ways). It will discourage those who actually did participate in the event.

I would prefer not to receive the main prize, if we were not able to do it, than be given rewards no matter what outcome actually was

I don't like the idea of supporting "this event ends in 100% no matter what" mentality for the sake of future events.

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

NoTimeToWait wrote: »

Chaquinho89 wrote: »

We've already hit the goal, ZOS had it already set since the beginning, they just want to make it interesting and have everyone working together and stuff...
Seriously, they won't put out an event behind an extremely expensive DLC paywall and have everyone "punished" in the end for not having hit their (secret) goal.
So don't worry, they'll announce the 100% in like two days from the end of the event...

That would be not very good, if ZOS made it obvious they've tampered with progress percentage (of course they can tamper with it in many not so obvious ways). It will discourage those who actually did participate in the event.

I would prefer not to receive the main prize, if we were not able to do it, than be given rewards no matter what outcome actually was

I don't like the idea of supporting "this event ends in 100% no matter what" mentality for the sake of future events.

The event is, go and walk there, its pretty bleh. This is a summerset sales event.

Ydrisselle · September 2018

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Ydrisselle wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

There has been a lot of speculation (and conspiracy) circling the Summerfall Event; specifically regarding the Grand Psijic Villa. ESO has not released the set numbers, but as the percent to completion barely increases every day, folks are getting worried. So, I though I would extend a possible solution; even though I am fairly certain the event was designed to grant the home.

Suggestion:
Extend a Discount Proportionate to the Summerfall Completion

Example of Original Price: 21,000 Crowns
Summerfall Completion 47% (11,100 Crowns)
Summerfall Completion 82% (3400 Crowns)

ETC

Alternatively, this could be offered for gold as well, with say, an Original Price of 8,000,000 gold.

This may make the event seem more enjoyable and have landmark goals. Just a thought.

I think they should be much more harsh: if we don't meet the goal, we don't get the house. Ever.

We cant influence 75% of the goal; as there are 4 mega servers. Of that 25% in our realm, most of us speak only 1 language. Its not a great execution on an event.

There are 6 megaservers (PC, Xbox, PS4, EU and NA for all). If you play on 1 platform, you can still contribute on 2 megaservers, since getting the achievement on both EU and NA count as 2 accounts for this event.

majulook · September 2018

IMHO this home was designed for this event or as some sort of big raffle/giveaway prize. It appears to be bigger than any other home. I believe that the cost of the home based on the cost of other hones would be so high not many players would purchase it.

I also think that ZOS used the right time to have this as a possible reward, due to the anger players have with the announced update changes. Its the classic "Jingling Shiny Keys" distraction.

Since we do not know the required results needed, we will most likely get it.

Elsterchen · September 2018

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

That would set a poor precedent. ZOS set the goal. If the goal is not met, they should be "gracious" enough to let us buy the house that we absolutely failed to achieve when we can't even see the numbers required?

I'd say that's some of the shadiest sales trickery in the history of selling stuff. Has ZOS been talking with EA lately?

They need to show something tangible. Anything.

How about: Next event ? (edit: or same event, next year?)

The house is a reward for a community achievement, if we miss the goal this time, maybe we are able to reach it next time.

Mix · September 2018

The event is about promoting and selling Summerset to those who haven't purchased it yet. I believe it will be very bad press if we don't get all 3 rewards, especially given the "hand-wavy" number we don't know

That being said. IF the manor was available for crowns, the most expensive Crown manor so far has been the Grand Topal Hideaway at 18,800 crowns for furnished (and 15,000 crowns unfurnished).

Gold-wise the most expensive is 3,800,000 g (Hakkvild) which is 15,000 crowns furnished.

Your numbers are off quite a bit, but I appreciate the suggestion even though I believe most players would be upset to not get it for free after all the event promotion (by helping others with ports and notifying other players in zone and guild chats of the event going on, and server hopping to get more counted achievements!) and probably not want to pay crowns (or even gold) for it.

NoTimeToWait · September 2018

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

The event is, go and walk there, its pretty bleh. This is a summerset sales event.

It's your problem that you didn't enjoy this event properly. This one traveled far and wide. This one stood where the sun stands and sat where the sun sets, and held his jaw where the Sun holds, and spent some time lying on the mat where snotty elves lie to each other. This one stole accidentaly some stuff he even didn't see and had to run from the guards. This one played a lute at some spots (truly this one hoped to spot Santie Claws at some point and maybe accidentaly serenade this elusive khajiit but well... )

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

NoTimeToWait wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

The event is, go and walk there, its pretty bleh. This is a summerset sales event.

It's your problem that you didn't enjoy this event properly. This one traveled far and wide. This one stood where the sun stands and sat where the sun sets, and held his jaw where the Sun holds, and spent some time lying on the mat where snotty elves lie to each other. This one stole accidentaly some stuff he even didn't see and had to run from the guards. This one played a lute at some spots (truly this one hoped to spot Santie Claws at some point and maybe accidentaly serenade this elusive khajiit but well... )

I dont rp. At all.

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

Ydrisselle wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Ydrisselle wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

There has been a lot of speculation (and conspiracy) circling the Summerfall Event; specifically regarding the Grand Psijic Villa. ESO has not released the set numbers, but as the percent to completion barely increases every day, folks are getting worried. So, I though I would extend a possible solution; even though I am fairly certain the event was designed to grant the home.

Suggestion:
Extend a Discount Proportionate to the Summerfall Completion

Example of Original Price: 21,000 Crowns
Summerfall Completion 47% (11,100 Crowns)
Summerfall Completion 82% (3400 Crowns)

ETC

Alternatively, this could be offered for gold as well, with say, an Original Price of 8,000,000 gold.

This may make the event seem more enjoyable and have landmark goals. Just a thought.

I think they should be much more harsh: if we don't meet the goal, we don't get the house. Ever.

We cant influence 75% of the goal; as there are 4 mega servers. Of that 25% in our realm, most of us speak only 1 language. Its not a great execution on an event.

There are 6 megaservers (PC, Xbox, PS4, EU and NA for all). If you play on 1 platform, you can still contribute on 2 megaservers, since getting the achievement on both EU and NA count as 2 accounts for this event.

And the 1200 people that may do this... are not even a drop in the bucket. Its a design flaw.

Ydrisselle · September 2018

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Ydrisselle wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Ydrisselle wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

There has been a lot of speculation (and conspiracy) circling the Summerfall Event; specifically regarding the Grand Psijic Villa. ESO has not released the set numbers, but as the percent to completion barely increases every day, folks are getting worried. So, I though I would extend a possible solution; even though I am fairly certain the event was designed to grant the home.

Suggestion:
Extend a Discount Proportionate to the Summerfall Completion

Example of Original Price: 21,000 Crowns
Summerfall Completion 47% (11,100 Crowns)
Summerfall Completion 82% (3400 Crowns)

ETC

Alternatively, this could be offered for gold as well, with say, an Original Price of 8,000,000 gold.

This may make the event seem more enjoyable and have landmark goals. Just a thought.

I think they should be much more harsh: if we don't meet the goal, we don't get the house. Ever.

We cant influence 75% of the goal; as there are 4 mega servers. Of that 25% in our realm, most of us speak only 1 language. Its not a great execution on an event.

There are 6 megaservers (PC, Xbox, PS4, EU and NA for all). If you play on 1 platform, you can still contribute on 2 megaservers, since getting the achievement on both EU and NA count as 2 accounts for this event.

And the 1200 people that may do this... are not even a drop in the bucket. Its a design flaw.

It seems everyone is doing it. There are thousands of US players on the EU megaserver, and thousands of EU players on the US Megaserver - at least on PC.

Hateanthem · September 2018

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

That would set a poor precedent. ZOS set the goal. If the goal is not met, they should be "gracious" enough to let us buy the house that we absolutely failed to achieve when we can't even see the numbers required?

I'd say that's some of the shadiest sales trickery in the history of selling stuff. Has ZOS been talking with EA lately?

They need to show something tangible. Anything.

Why? if the goal isn't met, then it's not met.

Ardaghion · September 2018

I'll be seriously shocked if we don't make the goal. The bar is already at 76% and we have almost 4 more days.

ezio45 · September 2018

redspecter23 wrote: »

That would set a poor precedent. ZOS set the goal. If the goal is not met, they should be "gracious" enough to let us buy the house that we absolutely failed to achieve when we can't even see the numbers required?

I'd say that's some of the shadiest sales trickery in the history of selling stuff. Has ZOS been talking with EA lately?

tbh i dont really care, i was planning to by that house outright from the start, wish they just would have sold it like a normal house

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

That would set a poor precedent. ZOS set the goal. If the goal is not met, they should be "gracious" enough to let us buy the house that we absolutely failed to achieve when we can't even see the numbers required?

I'd say that's some of the shadiest sales trickery in the history of selling stuff. Has ZOS been talking with EA lately?

They need to show something tangible. Anything.

Why? if the goal isn't met, then it's not met.

Because, in my world, thats not how it works.

Hateanthem · September 2018

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

That would set a poor precedent. ZOS set the goal. If the goal is not met, they should be "gracious" enough to let us buy the house that we absolutely failed to achieve when we can't even see the numbers required?

I'd say that's some of the shadiest sales trickery in the history of selling stuff. Has ZOS been talking with EA lately?

They need to show something tangible. Anything.

Why? if the goal isn't met, then it's not met.

Because, in my world, thats not how it works.

So in your world, when you don't complete a task, you get rewarded for failing?

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

That would set a poor precedent. ZOS set the goal. If the goal is not met, they should be "gracious" enough to let us buy the house that we absolutely failed to achieve when we can't even see the numbers required?

I'd say that's some of the shadiest sales trickery in the history of selling stuff. Has ZOS been talking with EA lately?

They need to show something tangible. Anything.

Why? if the goal isn't met, then it's not met.

Because, in my world, thats not how it works.

So in your world, when you don't complete a task, you get rewarded for failing?

I wouldn't take on a task without knowing the intimate details. Also, I do not fail.

EvilAutoTech · September 2018

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

That would set a poor precedent. ZOS set the goal. If the goal is not met, they should be "gracious" enough to let us buy the house that we absolutely failed to achieve when we can't even see the numbers required?

I'd say that's some of the shadiest sales trickery in the history of selling stuff. Has ZOS been talking with EA lately?

They need to show something tangible. Anything.

Why? if the goal isn't met, then it's not met.

Because, in my world, thats not how it works.

So in your world, when you don't complete a task, you get rewarded for failing?

Participation trophies

Hateanthem · September 2018

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

That would set a poor precedent. ZOS set the goal. If the goal is not met, they should be "gracious" enough to let us buy the house that we absolutely failed to achieve when we can't even see the numbers required?

I'd say that's some of the shadiest sales trickery in the history of selling stuff. Has ZOS been talking with EA lately?

They need to show something tangible. Anything.

Why? if the goal isn't met, then it's not met.

Because, in my world, thats not how it works.

So in your world, when you don't complete a task, you get rewarded for failing?

I wouldn't take on a task without knowing the intimate details. Also, I do not fail.

Well obviously in your world failure is rewarded. See, in the real world, when you don't accomplish something, or don't complete a task, you aren't rewarded or paid, but according to you if the player base does not complete the task, or does not succeed, you expect them to be given some kind of reward.

And everybody fails. If you haven't failed, then you haven't tried.

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

That would set a poor precedent. ZOS set the goal. If the goal is not met, they should be "gracious" enough to let us buy the house that we absolutely failed to achieve when we can't even see the numbers required?

I'd say that's some of the shadiest sales trickery in the history of selling stuff. Has ZOS been talking with EA lately?

They need to show something tangible. Anything.

Why? if the goal isn't met, then it's not met.

Because, in my world, thats not how it works.

So in your world, when you don't complete a task, you get rewarded for failing?

I wouldn't take on a task without knowing the intimate details. Also, I do not fail.

Well obviously in your world failure is rewarded. See, in the real world, when you don't accomplish something, or don't complete a task, you aren't rewarded or paid, but according to you if the player base does not complete the task, or does not succeed, you expect them to be given some kind of reward.

And everybody fails. If you haven't failed, then you haven't tried.

Are you describing a corporate job? Is that what they do? Cute. I wouldn't know, I started heavily investing in cyrptocurrency in 2009 and never looked back. If you're a motivational speaker, let me know, Ill book the room and take some lessons from you; I would love to know more about this real world.

I suggested this thread to alleviate the failings of the event.

Hateanthem · September 2018

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

That would set a poor precedent. ZOS set the goal. If the goal is not met, they should be "gracious" enough to let us buy the house that we absolutely failed to achieve when we can't even see the numbers required?

I'd say that's some of the shadiest sales trickery in the history of selling stuff. Has ZOS been talking with EA lately?

They need to show something tangible. Anything.

Why? if the goal isn't met, then it's not met.

Because, in my world, thats not how it works.

So in your world, when you don't complete a task, you get rewarded for failing?

I wouldn't take on a task without knowing the intimate details. Also, I do not fail.

Well obviously in your world failure is rewarded. See, in the real world, when you don't accomplish something, or don't complete a task, you aren't rewarded or paid, but according to you if the player base does not complete the task, or does not succeed, you expect them to be given some kind of reward.

And everybody fails. If you haven't failed, then you haven't tried.

Are you describing a corporate job? Is that what they do? Cute. I wouldn't know, I started heavily investing in cyrptocurrency in 2009 and never looked back. If you're a motivational speaker, let me know, Ill book the room and take some lessons from you; I would love to know more about this real world.

I suggested this thread to alleviate the failings of the event.

I'm describing any kind of situation where there is a reward involved. And congratulations on cryptocurrency investment. What's it's like to invest heavily into something that is continually decreasing in value?

And you still aren't addressing the fact that you want a participation trophy. A feel good medal for showing up.

That's not how it works.

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

That would set a poor precedent. ZOS set the goal. If the goal is not met, they should be "gracious" enough to let us buy the house that we absolutely failed to achieve when we can't even see the numbers required?

I'd say that's some of the shadiest sales trickery in the history of selling stuff. Has ZOS been talking with EA lately?

They need to show something tangible. Anything.

Why? if the goal isn't met, then it's not met.

Because, in my world, thats not how it works.

So in your world, when you don't complete a task, you get rewarded for failing?

I wouldn't take on a task without knowing the intimate details. Also, I do not fail.

Well obviously in your world failure is rewarded. See, in the real world, when you don't accomplish something, or don't complete a task, you aren't rewarded or paid, but according to you if the player base does not complete the task, or does not succeed, you expect them to be given some kind of reward.

And everybody fails. If you haven't failed, then you haven't tried.

Are you describing a corporate job? Is that what they do? Cute. I wouldn't know, I started heavily investing in cyrptocurrency in 2009 and never looked back. If you're a motivational speaker, let me know, Ill book the room and take some lessons from you; I would love to know more about this real world.

I suggested this thread to alleviate the failings of the event.

I'm describing any kind of situation where there is a reward involved. And congratulations on cryptocurrency investment. What's it's like to invest heavily into something that is continually decreasing in value?

And you still aren't addressing the fact that you want a participation trophy. A feel good medal for showing up.

That's not how it works.

I started on cyrptocurrency, my seed money moved to Amazon in 2017; but thanks.

As for the event, I dont want anything, and if you read my OP, I stated the house will likely be given as it will generate micro crown sales on furniture. A lot of players do not own a single Noble home, this was suggested for them.

Hateanthem · September 2018

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Hateanthem wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

That would set a poor precedent. ZOS set the goal. If the goal is not met, they should be "gracious" enough to let us buy the house that we absolutely failed to achieve when we can't even see the numbers required?

I'd say that's some of the shadiest sales trickery in the history of selling stuff. Has ZOS been talking with EA lately?

They need to show something tangible. Anything.

Why? if the goal isn't met, then it's not met.

Because, in my world, thats not how it works.

So in your world, when you don't complete a task, you get rewarded for failing?

I wouldn't take on a task without knowing the intimate details. Also, I do not fail.

Well obviously in your world failure is rewarded. See, in the real world, when you don't accomplish something, or don't complete a task, you aren't rewarded or paid, but according to you if the player base does not complete the task, or does not succeed, you expect them to be given some kind of reward.

And everybody fails. If you haven't failed, then you haven't tried.

Are you describing a corporate job? Is that what they do? Cute. I wouldn't know, I started heavily investing in cyrptocurrency in 2009 and never looked back. If you're a motivational speaker, let me know, Ill book the room and take some lessons from you; I would love to know more about this real world.

I suggested this thread to alleviate the failings of the event.

I'm describing any kind of situation where there is a reward involved. And congratulations on cryptocurrency investment. What's it's like to invest heavily into something that is continually decreasing in value?

And you still aren't addressing the fact that you want a participation trophy. A feel good medal for showing up.

That's not how it works.

I started on cyrptocurrency, my seed money moved to Amazon in 2017; but thanks.

As for the event, I dont want anything, and if you read my OP, I stated the house will likely be given as it will generate micro crown sales on furniture. A lot of players do not own a single Noble home, this was suggested for them.

Your OP doesn't state that at all. Maybe you should be the one to reread it.

kargen27 · September 2018

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

That would set a poor precedent. ZOS set the goal. If the goal is not met, they should be "gracious" enough to let us buy the house that we absolutely failed to achieve when we can't even see the numbers required?

I'd say that's some of the shadiest sales trickery in the history of selling stuff. Has ZOS been talking with EA lately?

They need to show something tangible. Anything.

This comment is dangerously close to crossing the line into an entitlement thread.

ZOS is graciously giving us stuff for free.

Somebody doesn't comprehend the value of TIME! When everyone mentions entitlement it's always about us wanting "Free" stuff. Have you ever stopped to consider the TIME people invest in this game. Have you stopped to consider the time ZOS is asking us to spend on this event, or any other event for that matter. These "Freebies" aren't "FREE" they're being earned by time spent doing what the game designers want us to do. Puts a whole different perspective on this "Entitlement" BS that people keep tossing around like it's a bad thing. If I work for something, I earned it. I AM ENTITLED TO IT. Period. It's called capitalism!

It's a team thing. We either succeed or fail as a team. The NHL doesn't tell players your team lost but you had one heck of a good series so we are going to put your name on the cup anyway. The entitlement starts coming in when we say hey we didn't do our part but can we have it anyway.

Kel · September 2018

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

There has been a lot of speculation (and conspiracy) circling the Summerfall Event; specifically regarding the Grand Psijic Villa. ESO has not released the set numbers, but as the percent to completion barely increases every day, folks are getting worried. So, I though I would extend a possible solution; even though I am fairly certain the event was designed to grant the home.

Suggestion:
Extend a Discount Proportionate to the Summerfall Completion

Example of Original Price: 21,000 Crowns
Summerfall Completion 47% (11,100 Crowns)
Summerfall Completion 82% (3400 Crowns)

ETC

Alternatively, this could be offered for gold as well, with say, an Original Price of 8,000,000 gold.

This may make the event seem more enjoyable and have landmark goals. Just a thought.

Nah...
We have a chance to come together as a community and get it for free. Failing that, why should we get a discount?
If free isn't a great motivation, I don't and won't blame a company for charging full price after that.
We have a chance for the ultimate discount now. If that fails, then it fails. I'm grateful for the chance to get it for free. If players don't want to take 15 minutes to run around Summerset to get this amazing house for free, why is a futher discount warranted? We have our chance.