Does VMA need a difficulty increase?

  • Kanar
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    No, just add a new 1 person trial that is harder.
    Also stamSorc is one of the easiest to play in vMA due to crit surge. Try stamDK or stamplar.
  • TiZzA93
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    YES!
    @Navras is it easy with magsorc? i did with stamsorc and would like to try for inferno staff and dw
  • TiZzA93
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    YES!
    @Kanar I nearly went in with my stamplar but decided the title in the achievements wud suit my stamsorc better (stormproof) 🙂
    Edited by TiZzA93 on September 24, 2018 4:32PM
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    I straight up don't believe it. Sorry.

    Too many BS things in there intended to mess you up until you know to look for them for a blind run to have that result.
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

    IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.
    I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
    Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS
  • TiZzA93
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    YES!
    well i only had 9 lives left so i was halfway to failing the whole thing lol plus i rolled away from EVERYTHING lol bash etc im just new to ma but like above have completed alot of content to know what i shud look out for
    Edited by TiZzA93 on September 24, 2018 4:41PM
  • Jimmy
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    NO!
    TiZzA93 wrote: »
    @Jimmy i did it on vet blind run and thats why i found it to be a bit too easy well it was not easy but after all ive heard about its rep i thought it wud have been nightmarish

    @BigBragg TY! I have tanked every dungeon n dlc too so i have a bit of knowledge on what to look out for i would love to try vet trials but not in guild so just pug normals

    I also wud love a new harder solo arena

    I haven't done VMA in about a year, but that doesn't sound right. I don't know anyone who beats Vet VMA on their first run, blind, like that.

    You sure it was on Vet?
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    @SkruDe
  • TiZzA93
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    YES!
    @Jimmy defo vet i got a purple maelstrom greatsword 2 titles a polymorph and 2 xbox achievements completeling it and completeing on vet
  • Jimmy
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    NO!
    TiZzA93 wrote: »
    @Jimmy defo vet i got a purple maelstrom greatsword 2 titles a polymorph and 2 xbox achievements completeling it and completeing on vet

    Oh crap, XBox.

    Okay nevermind. I see why it was easier for you. It's naturally watered down on console.

    All the gripes you mostly see is from the PC version of vet VMA.
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  • SilverIce58
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    NO!
    I'd be for a difficulty increase when over half (say about 75%) of the playerbase can clear it in less than a week. I personally have little to no trouble (stupid 8th boss, you know the one, with the chains) making it to the 9th round. The last boss is the only one that causes me the most trouble of the end of round bosses. Took a long time to beat it.

    When that happens, then we can get a difficulty increase. Until then, I'm fine with a hard mode book/scroll appearing right before the final round of each arena.
    PC - NA
    CP 1125
    Veric Blackwood - Breton Magsorc DC
    Xhiak-Qua'cthurus - Argonian Frost Warden EP
    Kujata-qa - Khajiit Magplar AD
    Suunleth-dar - Khajiit Stamblade AD
    Teldryn Antharys - Dunmer Flame DK EP
    Strikes-With-Venom - Argonian Poison DK EP
    Rur'san-ra - Khajiit WW Stamsorc AD
    Ilianos Solinar - Altmer Stamplar AD
    Iscah Silver-Heart - Reachman Magden DC
  • TiZzA93
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    YES!
    oh damn lol is it easier on console then?
  • SilverIce58
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    NO!
    TiZzA93 wrote: »
    oh damn lol is it easier on console then?

    Maybe you should try doing it on a keyboard and a mouse.
    PC - NA
    CP 1125
    Veric Blackwood - Breton Magsorc DC
    Xhiak-Qua'cthurus - Argonian Frost Warden EP
    Kujata-qa - Khajiit Magplar AD
    Suunleth-dar - Khajiit Stamblade AD
    Teldryn Antharys - Dunmer Flame DK EP
    Strikes-With-Venom - Argonian Poison DK EP
    Rur'san-ra - Khajiit WW Stamsorc AD
    Ilianos Solinar - Altmer Stamplar AD
    Iscah Silver-Heart - Reachman Magden DC
  • TiZzA93
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    YES!
    @SilverIce58 I was always under the assumption that pc players had games easier than consoles better fps, finer control etc
  • SilverIce58
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    NO!
    TiZzA93 wrote: »
    @SilverIce58 I was always under the assumption that pc players had games easier than consoles better fps, finer control etc

    Ah but not everyone is as good as the other.
    PC - NA
    CP 1125
    Veric Blackwood - Breton Magsorc DC
    Xhiak-Qua'cthurus - Argonian Frost Warden EP
    Kujata-qa - Khajiit Magplar AD
    Suunleth-dar - Khajiit Stamblade AD
    Teldryn Antharys - Dunmer Flame DK EP
    Strikes-With-Venom - Argonian Poison DK EP
    Rur'san-ra - Khajiit WW Stamsorc AD
    Ilianos Solinar - Altmer Stamplar AD
    Iscah Silver-Heart - Reachman Magden DC
  • TiZzA93
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    YES!
    yh thats true im quite good with survivability due to alot of PvP it seems to have made me i guess 'faster' in PvE weaves heals dodges etc
  • gabriebe
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    NO!
    vMA is fine as it is, it really forces people to become a better player in its current state and make them ready for harder content. If you crank up the difficulty, I think a lot of people won't be able to make that transition.

    And also vMA will be indirectly harder anyway because of the nerf to shields.
    Former Empresses: Saliva Bortschion (MagBlade), Janet From Finance (PvP MagSorc), Carla Swagan (Tank DK), Estelle Born (StamBlade), Enya Arsenal (MagPlar), Anita Nurse (Magplar Healer), Bearback Brigitte (Magden), Rachel Justice (MagDK), Nicole From Payroll (Stamden), Bailiff Belinda (PvE MagSorc), Féline Dion (StamDK), Septic Tank Tina (Necro Tank)

    The runts: The Trolly Spirit (Tank Sorc), Floods-Your-Basement (Warden Healer) Dinah Asthma (Magcro), Total Top Tony (Stamcro)

    The traitor
    s: Janis Javelin (Stamplar, EP), Barbecue Becky (Magblade Healer, AD)

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  • TiZzA93
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    YES!
    @gabriebe i agree shields nerfed mag toons hard, vma is going to be a cakewalk for stam and magblade for 25% aoe mitigation next patch
  • valeriiya
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    MAYBE (REASON)
    I voted maybe because there are a lot of people who want harder content, i am not one of them as i struggle with vMA. Why not add a HM element to it for those people? HM exists for PVE so why not add it here too? Seems the easiest way to satisfy everyone.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    VMA cleared on first run through in under an hour...hmmm.

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    On the one hand, I agree with you. On the other hand, a lot of the mechanics ARE very similar to ones in dungeons.
  • Dymence
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    Lol at everyone who doesn't believe someone can clear it on a first run.

    VMA has been *** easy since launch
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    @Dymence you were high end even then when you got the World First clears and Flawless. Skill aside, I have to believe you ran into your share of bugs in the process.

    The frequency of those alone make it questionable, not the player skill.
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

    IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.
    I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
    Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS
  • p00tx
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    MAYBE (REASON)
    Let's wait and see how the shield changes pan out before suggesting something like this.
    PC/Xbox NA
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  • StamWhipCultist
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    it will be harder for sorcs next patch
  • coop500
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    NO!
    "I've heard lots of people struggle with it, but I'm Awesome! So it needs to be harder!"

    Um, no.

    Pretty much this
    Hoping for more playable races
  • ChunkyCat
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    NO!
    Yes. Increases the difficulty.

    Too many people are using the master’s bow and destruction staves on their back bar. It’s not even going on their front bar! So if all those people really want that BiS weapon on their back bar, they should have to actually work to get it. Not just steamroll through some content and come out singing koom-bajah a few minutes later.

    Make it so difficult that people want to break their keyboards. Its a small price to pay for a few extra percentage points to their dps.

    :trollface:
    Edited by ChunkyCat on September 24, 2018 6:58PM
  • firedrgn
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    I would say your highly visual and an exceptional player. Or something else.

  • MooseKnuckles88
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    NO!
    Nope, leave it alone. If the relatively small population that clear it in 30 mins want it more challenging, then zos should offer a non-cp version same difficulty or a hard mode on each arena. Rewards can be a special title and skin or motif style for completing all with no death and no sigil option.
  • Kingslayer513
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    It could use a "hardmode" version which rewards perfected maelstrom weapons. These perfected weapons would have the same 2-piece bonus, but would also include a 1-piece stat bonus similar to the new blackrose prison weapons.

    Veteran mode shouldn't be made harder though, enough players struggle with it already. Just give us endgame players another layer on top to play, with better rewards to match.
  • Radox0
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    MAYBE (REASON)
    Keep current version as it. It is brutal for plenty of people until they have the mechanics around, evidently we have 1337 or those ahead of the curve on the forum, but not really the norm and most will rarely do it on thier first attempt and many even days / weeks later can struggle.

    But add a HM with perfected weapon drops. Or better yet as mentioned, add new solo content with entirely new set of challenges and weapon drops / sets.
    Edited by Radox0 on September 24, 2018 8:46PM
  • JiKama
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    NO!
    I actually just completed it myself this past Saturday. A total of 5 times over the weekend. I received a maelstrom inferno staff, maelstrom lightning staff, dual wield axe/dagger, and my beloved maelstrom bow. If they decide to buff it for whatever reason whatevs.... I got what I wanted XD
  • WuffyCerulei
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    MAYBE (REASON)
    The arena itself is hard enough. But perhaps add a hard mode of sorts for people looking for a harder time in there.
    "Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater

    Bring Back Pure Class Build Power
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