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PvE vs PvP - Toxicity at an all time high?
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Bruccius✭✭✭✭✭Interesting to see how many toxic threads there are with both "sides" of the community at each other's throats.
Sad too, when really, neither is responsible for the problems that cause the triggering.
Still, while it can be fun to have a bit of a giggle at each other's expense, people really need to learn when to dial it down and restrain themselves.
If you really, and I mean TRULY, dislike the game/PvP/PvE/other players, you should probably quit or take a break from the game.
Last time I checked, the PvE playerbase being toxic had to do with being ganked while on a quest in Cyrodiil.
So I wouldn't say ''neither is responsible''.
Whose idea was it to send the PvE'ers into a PvP zone then? Pretty sure it was neither PvPers OR PvEers.
If PvP players let PvE players do PvE, then there wouldn't be this problem.
''Live and let live'', you know?0 -
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✭✭Interesting to see how many toxic threads there are with both "sides" of the community at each other's throats.
Sad too, when really, neither is responsible for the problems that cause the triggering.
Still, while it can be fun to have a bit of a giggle at each other's expense, people really need to learn when to dial it down and restrain themselves.
If you really, and I mean TRULY, dislike the game/PvP/PvE/other players, you should probably quit or take a break from the game.
Last time I checked, the PvE playerbase being toxic had to do with being ganked while on a quest in Cyrodiil.
So I wouldn't say ''neither is responsible''.
Whose idea was it to send the PvE'ers into a PvP zone then? Pretty sure it was neither PvPers OR PvEers.
If PvP players let PvE players do PvE, then there wouldn't be this problem.
''Live and let live'', you know?
They do, everywhere but the pvp zones.
Edited by Agenericname on September 24, 2018 1:15PM1 -
AhPook_Is_Here✭✭✭✭✭
✭Forum PVP is the best kind, a big zerg fight like this is awesome.“Whatever.”
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The Uninvited✭✭✭✭✭
✭I play both PVE and PVP, but mostly PVP lately. I can honestly say I find the toxicity in PVP to be less than in PVE.
Yeah, sometimes you get a hate whisper from the opposing team but I have seen PVE'rs go at each others throats even in guild chat. Never mind the people you sometimes get in dungeons who rage at the whole team because they are the one dead on the floor.Pandora's Promise (rip) | LND | Pactriotic | IKnowWhatUDidLastWinter's | The Uninvited |
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ihazzit✭✭✭People are toxic due to their own incompetence.If you are angry about anything in this game you are only punishing yourself.0 -
NoTimeToWait✭✭✭✭✭I consider myself PvI player which means Player Versus Interface. Constantly fighting ESO UI2 -
Ozazz✭✭✭✭Interesting to see how many toxic threads there are with both "sides" of the community at each other's throats.
Sad too, when really, neither is responsible for the problems that cause the triggering.
Still, while it can be fun to have a bit of a giggle at each other's expense, people really need to learn when to dial it down and restrain themselves.
If you really, and I mean TRULY, dislike the game/PvP/PvE/other players, you should probably quit or take a break from the game.
So if you had 100's or 1000's of dollars spent on a game.
then you had 7k + hours on a game,5k or more on a specific class when its about to become completely irrelevant and worst in game in pvp you wouldn't be triggered?
all this due to years of in game horrible players that cant learn to play bitching and moaning over certain abilities= The anti Sorcerer Brigade.
Then zos feels pressured into destroying a class for social justice, because its more popular for the majority.
Im pretty sure you would be pissed AF.0 -
yiasemi✭✭✭✭I go cyrodil.
to get meat of fish.
for I am mighty angler.
i get killed.
by people who call themselves gankers.
They say I am meat.
Thus in the stars we curse the gankers who call themselves pp
cause we are pe pe
i say one day we can be peeppel
not gankers.
and hunt meat of fish in safety.
but not while the pp can gank us like meat.
gods, stop the ganking zergers
and we can ignore each other.
Until then the pepe are the meat of the pp.
And it sucks.
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nryerson1025✭✭✭✭yes there is toxicity but compared to other mmos, i've found the eso community to be by far the nicest0 -
The_Lex✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I place the blame squarely on ZOS' shoulders. PvP and PvE balanced together is a fundamental problem. But it goes beyond that. I can't understand why ZOS insists on making huge, sweeping changes from patch to patch with zero communication regarding their vision, instead of gradual meta changes. Compounding that is a lack of willingness to fix what's broken.
Edited by The_Lex on September 24, 2018 1:59PM2 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I go cyrodil.
to get meat of fish.
for I am mighty angler.
i get killed.
by people who call themselves gankers.
They say I am meat.
Thus in the stars we curse the gankers who call themselves pp
cause we are pe pe
i say one day we can be peeppel
not gankers.
and hunt meat of fish in safety.
but not while the pp can gank us like meat.
gods, stop the ganking zergers
and we can ignore each other.
Until then the pepe are the meat of the pp.
And it sucks.
Player v. player
Is allowed in Cyrodiil.
What did you expect?
Edited to add: I say this as someone who was PVE-only when I went to Cyrodiil to get my Master Angler fish. I expected to get ganked. I got ganked, several times. I respawned and went back to fishing until I had my fish.
(And this, here, is why the recent nerfs aren't the height of PVP v PVE toxicity. Its the fundamental difference of expectations people have when entering a zone with PVP enabled everywhere. I'm not saying the perception of nerfs doesn't contribute, but the recent threads are pretty mild compared to the eternal debate over PVEing in Cyrodiil.)Edited by VaranisArano on September 24, 2018 2:03PM0 -
iiYuki✭✭✭✭✭I dislike PvP and actively avoid it, personally I look at PVP and wonder how ANYONE has any enjoyment at all from it. Which as a result pisses me off when something gets nerfed because of it.
Crystaline shards insta proc having knockdown comes to mind, it wasn't """OP""" in PvE so clearly its people QQ'ing about it in PvP that got it nerfed."Play how you want... unless its not how we intended you to play in which case we'll nerf it".
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Bam_Bam✭✭✭✭✭
✭Interesting to see how many toxic threads there are with both "sides" of the community at each other's throats.
Sad too, when really, neither is responsible for the problems that cause the triggering.
Still, while it can be fun to have a bit of a giggle at each other's expense, people really need to learn when to dial it down and restrain themselves.
If you really, and I mean TRULY, dislike the game/PvP/PvE/other players, you should probably quit or take a break from the game.
Last time I checked, the PvE playerbase being toxic had to do with being ganked while on a quest in Cyrodiil.
So I wouldn't say ''neither is responsible''.
Whose idea was it to send the PvE'ers into a PvP zone then? Pretty sure it was neither PvPers OR PvEers.
If PvP players let PvE players do PvE, then there wouldn't be this problem.
''Live and let live'', you know?
LOL. You're missing my point.
Regardless, if anyone - PvE OR PvP, is from a different alliance and they come into Vivec, I'm going to try and brutally kill them. I mean, it's a PvP zone right - what should anyone expect?
Anytime ANYONE goes into a PvP server, expect to be a target for other players. That is how it is. No one cares about the quests you need to do.
The solution, of course, is to prepare, detect pots, immovability pots and invis pots are your friends. Look at your map - avoid the cross swords that you can see and don't travel in a direct line - gankers WILL be waiting.Joined January 2014
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That's an old quote.
Nice try though
How long did it take you to dig that out? You'll be glad to know I've spent wayyy more since then, although I've slowed down more recently (girlfriend, house etc etc are taking up my time and money. lol
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✭✭✭✭✭All PVE toxicity is about not emptied treasure chests and fake healers / tank jumped to team of fake dps.0 -
Bam_Bam✭✭✭✭✭
✭I dislike PvP and actively avoid it, personally I look at PVP and wonder how ANYONE has any enjoyment at all from it. Which as a result pisses me off when something gets nerfed because of it.
Crystaline shards insta proc having knockdown comes to mind, it wasn't """OP""" in PvE so clearly its people QQ'ing about it in PvP that got it nerfed.
Personally, I enjoy fighting other players. I'm pretty rubbish too, but I get up, dust off and go again. Then other times I'll have a great day and do really well. I Guess that I also prefer opponents that think for themselves and have their own individual fighting style. Fighting a mechanical, systematic opponent puts me to sleep.
Different strokes, different folks etc.
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✭It comes with competitive play.Your friendly neighborhood crazy cat lady of ESO
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