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Summerfall Event - Can we do it?

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    VDoom1 wrote: »
    Only 47%...o.o. A 5% increase? What? That feels crazy after the livestream and everyone running around last night.

    Okay, I'm starting to think this might indeed be rigged. Seems like no matter if everyone who ever owned ESO did this achievement, it would still say 47%.

    actually i am pretty sure, the majority of people interested in this event will do or did it the early days and till sunday. we will see what comes after sunday...

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  • sedi
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    Nope (Don't be negative)
    I’m worried we won’t get the mount!
  • arvilla
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    Nope (Don't be negative)
    No
  • Koronach
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    Nope (Don't be negative)
    Unless something drastic happens, I don't see it happening.
  • Nulami
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    I see them giving out the house. To fail to do that would hurt them too much.

    Also, who said that the meter was an accurate representation of how many people have the achievement? They could just be "building suspense" by moving the needle slowly.
  • VDoom1
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    Yes! We can do it!
    Nulami wrote: »
    I see them giving out the house. To fail to do that would hurt them too much.

    Also, who said that the meter was an accurate representation of how many people have the achievement? They could just be "building suspense" by moving the needle slowly.

    Will agree with that. For all we know it's already decided how much the meter will increase everyday, regardless of how many get the achievement. It would just be bad press and bad publicity if we don't even get the mount.

    But it's Saturday evening, I will wait and see until Monday.
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  • SydneyGrey
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    Yes! We can do it!
    Argh, not even to 50% yet. Can I change my answer now? Now I'm thinking there's no way in heck we're getting a free palace. Not happening.
    We'll be lucky if we can even get the mount, but I'm not even sure about that any more.
  • antoniotf5
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    Not sure
    Hey can someone at ZOS rig the event please?
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    antoniotf5 wrote: »
    Hey can someone at ZOS rig the event please?

    Done, this event is as fake as "pro" wrestling. Either we get it or we don't, and that's been decided. The only thing that will really have impact is community "support" and how many summerset copies sell.
  • rumple9
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    Yes! We can do it!
    Can Gina's Twitter hacker hack the meter too?
  • Ertosi
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    After today's update to the counter page, we only saw a 5% increase from yesterday. To get that house we're going to need to see a solid 9% increase daily until the end of the event. That seems very unlikely.
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  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    Yes! We can do it!
    Hey ZoS can we see the actual numbers on the bar? Think this thing is just a sham so we don’t get the house and HAVE to buy it instead of getting it for free .-.

    Like seriously, with all the people in Summerset I think the bar would be a bit higher than 47%
  • weedgenius
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    Nope (Don't be negative)
    Nulami wrote: »
    I see them giving out the house. To fail to do that would hurt them too much.

    Also, who said that the meter was an accurate representation of how many people have the achievement? They could just be "building suspense" by moving the needle slowly.

    How badly would it really hurt them, though? The event is deliberately designed so all of the onus is on the players. ZOS is able to say, "Look, we chose a fair number, we provided you with a guide of the landmarks, we did a live stream, we advertised in-game and online, but unfortunately we did not have enough participation to reach the final milestone. Sorry but more players should have participated, more people should have gotten the word out in guild/zone chats, blah blah." Boom. On top of that, they're getting a boost to their sales and log-in/play time numbers, revenue from more copies of Summerset sold, AND tens of thousands of dollars when they put this house in the crown store.

    If players say "it was rigged! your number was impossible!" they'll simply come to the forums and explain the number they chose and why they chose it in order to quell the pitchfork mobs. Assuming it isn't rigged and the number is possible, ZOS has nothing to lose here.
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  • SpiderKnight
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    Nope (Don't be negative)
    Sorry, but I can't help but feel negative about this. Seeing how shady this company can be, this is just a ploy to grab more Summerset sales and at the end, they'll say: "Sorry we made a huge profit, (suckers), but we missed it by x amount of people, so close, maybe next time." I might jump on my EU guy, but Destiny 2 is good again and I'd rather be raid ready.
  • rfennell_ESO
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    Yes! We can do it!
    People should think of putting this in the guild message for the people that just log on for daily rewards and other things of that nature.

    That's likely the problem that will arise, as there are plenty of people that do that. (Of course, they likely won't read a guild message of the day, but just maybe they will).
  • o_0
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    If....IF the meter reaches 100% it wont be until the last day, after building suspense, and followed by, "due to a rally of players at the LAST MINUTE we are happy to announce success!"

    But no matter how hard we try they won't show 100% before the last day as that's basically saying "Good job you all got the house. No need to buy or gift summerset or work on the achievement. See ya 10/10 for your stuff."
  • KittyHazWares
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    Nope (Don't be negative)
    The game was rigged from the start
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  • SophiCat
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    I don't see 100% as a realistic target to shoot for... or to set actually. I would say they really don't want to give out free ginormous houses that they could get a ton money for instead. So the house is a non-starter.. and really not a good idea by Z, since it's only going to generate bad feelings in the community toward them which i'm pretty sure was not what they wanted to achieve out of this whole exercise - so not a smart move there guys... *shakes head* They would have been better off just leaving the house out - or giving out a smaller house for 85%... something like that.

    The mount is a much more realistic goal - we may actually be able to get there.
  • Hurbster
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    Free stuff is free stuff. Just popped over to the NA server to get the Pathfinder achievement over there, so thats about as much as I can do.
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  • therift
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    On PS4 NA and EU, there seems to be tremendous activity from this event, judging by area text chat and activity at Dusk Keep (where I spent some time). That's completely unscientific, though.

    The drop in Friday completions is a surprise. I expected the first 6 days after the Tuesday announcement to show rising completions through the weekend, followed by a drop early next week, then a race of sorts to the end. This projection seemed reasonable to me, whether the results were based on actual player enthusiasm or perhaps 'massaged' somewhat.

    I hope the Friday result proves to be a fluke.
  • Druachan
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    Yes! We can do it!
    Well I did my bit after getting an email about it. Now, meanwhile in stonefalls...
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  • EmEm_Oh
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    VDoom1 wrote: »
    Only 47%...o.o. A 5% increase? What? That feels crazy after the livestream and everyone running around last night.

    Okay, I'm starting to think this might indeed be rigged. Seems like no matter if everyone who ever owned ESO did this achievement, it would still say 47%.

    It's not "rigged". It's what was expected. Most looked at the house and thought, "Yay, it can be mine!"

    Not so fast.

    It's simply a mathematical return on known data. Initially, of course you'll get a boost...because the system has to register everyone who already bought it. Then, it should, decline in percentages thereafter. Which is why I was a little surprised to think everyone was under the impression we'd get to 100 in a few days or so. The percentages will exponentially be less as the days roll on. It could bottom out at an average of 2% per day, but that's ZOS's in-house knowledge they probably won't share, so who knows what the average daily new purchasing rate is of Summerset.

    The chances you'll get another 10% spike would be rare and I wouldn't expect it.

    My guess, everyone will get a cool free mount, as planned. I'm ok with it, but for those who thought they'd get a 15K crown house or whatever, they should have done the math first and also realized how likely it was that everyone would get such a prize.

    So, once again, I don't particularly blame ZOS or think this was a rigged game. It was your basic mathematical event where people just don't realize the odds of getting the top tier prize, and assuming they would get it as well.
    The 100% completion goal on the Summerfall Event progress meter is a goal-post we set when designing this event that we believe our players have a high likelihood of reaching. We want our players to have fun with this event and successfully earn all three event rewards, and we chose a goal with that in mind.

    While we aren’t disclosing numbers, we can confirm that “100%” does not mean 100% of all players who own ESO or even ESO: Summerset.

    I'd estimate the current activity to end around 90% or so. Which is really good. I think the chances of everyone getting a Villa is possible, but the last few days are going to be really important.
    Edited by EmEm_Oh on September 22, 2018 4:20PM
  • RebornV3x
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    Yes! We can do it!
    I say we wait tell after the weekend before we go all doom and gloom many people have work and a job so if we arn't near 70% by Monday then this probably wont happen the problem is all the active players all ready have the achievement on both servers by now so its gonna be close.
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  • Amarlado
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    I have saved crowns for that Psijic Villa, so if it doesn't become available for free from this event, I really, really hope that they make it available on the store. I want that manor.
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    EmEm_Oh wrote: »
    It's simply a mathematical return on known data. Initially, of course you'll get a boost...because the system has to register everyone who already bought it. Then, it should, decline in percentages thereafter. Which is why I was a little surprised to think everyone was under the impression we'd get to 100 in a few days or so.

    I agree with your expectation that percentages will decline over time. However, there is no way to calculate odds or projections because the mathematical data is not known. We don't know the numerical value of the goal that Zeni selected, we don't know the number of copies of Summerset sold, nor do we know the number of Summerset accounts presently active in the game.

    We merely have a percentage of progress and the rate over time; neither is amenable to any reliable analysis... which is why Zeni hasn't released numerical values. The goal number wouldn't provide anything useful for this event, but it would enable analysis of sales and revenue figures which Zeni doesn't wish to inadvertently disclose at this time.

    I expect the peak daily progress to occur over the weekend, under the loose assumption that more people are playing at that time.

  • Earrindo
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    Yes! We can do it!
    Amarlado wrote: »
    I have saved crowns for that Psijic Villa, so if it doesn't become available for free from this event, I really, really hope that they make it available on the store. I want that manor.

    I am in the same boat Amarlado. I would be stoked to get this house for free, but honestly I saved up for it, and I just want to get it.
    Hopefully they won't delay making it available to buy if we dont reach the goal in the end.
    I sincerely hope we will, of course. I logged into EU and NA, did it on both, and even dusted off a second account ive not used at all and will be getting it on NA and EU with that account as well.
    But I really dont want to have to wait months longer to get the Villa if we dont reach 100%.
  • Aebaradath
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    Not sure
    Nulami wrote: »
    I see them giving out the house. To fail to do that would hurt them too much.

    Also, who said that the meter was an accurate representation of how many people have the achievement? They could just be "building suspense" by moving the needle slowly.
    How exactly does it hurt them?

    You can go complain about the community not reaching the goal instead.
  • Bouldercleave
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    Yes! We can do it!
    I voted yes, because I have faith in us as a community, BUT:

    We don't know the REAL metrics of what the percentages stand for. Without the community knowing what constitutes 100% participation per their internal benchmark, we are just along for the ride. They can reward us as they see fit.

    Based on the information that we are privy to - I'm not liking our chances for the house though - and maybe not even the mount. A LOT of community effort for basically a "My Pretty Pony" pet.








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  • Mysanne
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    Nope (Don't be negative)
    This morning, I was full of hope.

    But this evening... I have no more hope.

    I did it on PC EU and PC NA... Can't do more...
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    Will Summerfall also be available to ESO PLUS users who havent bought Summerset?

    Next year most likely
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