Shields casting time IS NOT ONE SECOND

  • Tasear
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    I tried on PTS. It's absolutely disgusting, awful, non comfortable. It's more then ONE SECOND MORE LIKE THREE OR MOERE SECONDS.

    It IS disgusting, awful, and uncomfortable (based on the gif posted below, I havent' actually spun up PTS), but it does look like it's one second. One second is just a long time in ESO combat to be stuck in an animation.

    It's about 2 secs to get the full shield effect.
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    here is my feedback: It is a WRONG decision
  • Doctordarkspawn
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    Minalan wrote: »
    They lost more subs in one day than they have since Morrowind... :smiley:

    If this keeps up, someone in charge will start asking about the revenue dip. And someone will figure this out eventually.

    How do you have the numbers on that @Minalan
    I'm all for making ZOS stop with these boneheaded moves but what do you base this on?
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    First PTS Natch Potes Cycle. People losing their minds.

    Can yah'll just calm your tatas and not lose your minds?
    It's not gonna be as bad as it sounds, geez. Sorcs thought the world died when shields' duration was reduced to 6s. Sorcs thought the world died when Rune Cage was made dodge-able. Did it? No.

    Now you just can't stand in the middle of a field shield-stacking like a baws, now you actually gotta use your (hopefully) existing brain and LoS / Kite.

    Just like everyone went mad when they have seen on PTS how broken rune cage was, then it went live and sorcs were everywhere killing almost everyone except of the most tankiest builds? Yeah let it go live. You think now "awesome I'm going to take my revenge on those sorcs now", no you won't, because you won't meet any MagSorcs there, you won't meet any other LA users (maybe except of magblades), all you will see now will be "Blocked/Dodged".

    I've been here when things like that happened before, when game performance was so bad that meteor rain was a completely legit thing. When they have changed lightning in Cyrodiil and you know what? This was one of the toughest times for the game, when some of the best players and even whole guilds was leaving the game, if you want this then please be my guest, but better get ready for more threads like "Is this game dying?".

    @Mayrael

    Thought I was the only one that remembered the exodus of 1.3

    That's lighting patch was the absolute low of ZOS broke PVP for 2 weeks @ 2 fps regardless of your rig. No free week or compensation gg @zos this will be your #2.
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    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lol, sorcs been easymode for years, now when sorcs have to start to actually put some effort into their play they start to cry like spoiled babys

    You sound like the typical tank duo that tries to gank me and when fails whispers me same useless garbage like easy mode while they wear heavy armors and hide behind shields that mitigate 90% of the dmg when block.

    Im sure you never knew it, but a magsorc that kills any class atm uses alot more skill than you. Since magsorc is by far the most nerfed class in the game.


    I bet 100% that youre a tankling on heavy armor that is ignored by sorcs and he rage on forums.

    Most nerfed class in the game?!?! Hahahaha, its been practically untouched except the last dics. Oh the tears, keep em flowing. I can tell you never played any other class, welcome to the real world...

    Tell me, what class you play?

    Most nerfed class by FAR, since day 1 of this game. Dont know if you started it yesterday but i still recall everything, run to patch notes and check nerfs yourself.

    Your reply though makes me think that many sorcs have made you shed your tears in PvP. But guess what? L2P first, talk next.



    Have fun
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    Don’t argue with @ErMurazor. He plays NB.

    @Lieblingsjunge

    So, what do they bring, besides negate? Minor Intellect? Wow. Ok, you can spam
    Encase if you lack a DK with Talons. That’s about it for group play.
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • StamWhipCultist
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lol, sorcs been easymode for years, now when sorcs have to start to actually put some effort into their play they start to cry like spoiled babys

    You sound like the typical tank duo that tries to gank me and when fails whispers me same useless garbage like easy mode while they wear heavy armors and hide behind shields that mitigate 90% of the dmg when block.

    Im sure you never knew it, but a magsorc that kills any class atm uses alot more skill than you. Since magsorc is by far the most nerfed class in the game.


    I bet 100% that youre a tankling on heavy armor that is ignored by sorcs and he rage on forums.

    Most nerfed class in the game?!?! Hahahaha, its been practically untouched except the last dics. Oh the tears, keep em flowing. I can tell you never played any other class, welcome to the real world...

    Tell me, what class you play?

    Most nerfed class by FAR, since day 1 of this game. Dont know if you started it yesterday but i still recall everything, run to patch notes and check nerfs yourself.

    Your reply though makes me think that many sorcs have made you shed your tears in PvP. But guess what? L2P first, talk next.



    Have fun

    I am sure you will have no issues with upcoming nerfs, based on what you wrote in Vivec thread.
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    Feanor wrote: »
    Don’t argue with @ErMurazor. He plays NB.

    @Lieblingsjunge

    So, what do they bring, besides negate? Minor Intellect? Wow. Ok, you can spam
    Encase if you lack a DK with Talons. That’s about it for group play.

    They bring the ability to hide behind their friends long enough to cast a shield!
    Minalan owes me a beer.

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    Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
    Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
    Aidee - Magsorc - DC
    Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
    Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.
  • ErMurazor
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lol, sorcs been easymode for years, now when sorcs have to start to actually put some effort into their play they start to cry like spoiled babys

    You sound like the typical tank duo that tries to gank me and when fails whispers me same useless garbage like easy mode while they wear heavy armors and hide behind shields that mitigate 90% of the dmg when block.

    Im sure you never knew it, but a magsorc that kills any class atm uses alot more skill than you. Since magsorc is by far the most nerfed class in the game.


    I bet 100% that youre a tankling on heavy armor that is ignored by sorcs and he rage on forums.

    Most nerfed class in the game?!?! Hahahaha, its been practically untouched except the last dics. Oh the tears, keep em flowing. I can tell you never played any other class, welcome to the real world...

    Tell me, what class you play?

    Most nerfed class by FAR, since day 1 of this game. Dont know if you started it yesterday but i still recall everything, run to patch notes and check nerfs yourself.

    Your reply though makes me think that many sorcs have made you shed your tears in PvP. But guess what? L2P first, talk next.



    Have fun

    I play magplar and i beat most sorcs, the top sorcs i ocasionally loose but mostly it ends Up a draw. Shieldstacking is just stupid, glad to see it nerfed. IF you know how to play a sorc u should only die when u get overrun by a zerg, but even that is easy avoidable IF u are aware and skilled, just pop shields and streak. Glad that easymode sorcs got nerfed, its totally needed
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    idk wrote: »
    I did not time it but the shield animation can be canceled so it does not take quite as long.. A minimal time is still required but more skilled players will have an advantage over those that are challenged with animation canceling.

    Regardless, it seems to be a stale and lazy change.

    Did you try on PTS? Because I tried animation cancel on conjured ward and harness magicka - not work.

    PTS is the only place that matters ATM. Yes, the animation can be canceled but you have to waiting that full second or you cancel the shield.

    Basically, it will only be effective for the best players. Everyone else will get a longer cast time.
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    Tested it on my magsorc on pts. Its basically useless i a pvp situation as it is. Just to the poster above me, I also main a magplar. Imagine your heals all had a 1 sec delay and were bashable. Yes, thats how it is. Without shields magsorcs arent a usable class in pvp anymore, unfortunately. The shields define the class, is part of its unique class skills and is the only viable defensive option. Its a no-go. Has nothing to do with how fkin pro you are, pros will probably still be able to do ok without shields, maybe. Still havent heard a single player with semi knowledge of sorcs thinking this is anything than a crazy idea. Listen to your class reps Zenimax. Go another path.
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    I finally got on the PTS to test it:

    Hardened Ward appears to be at least 1.5 seconds, more likely from 1.8 to 2 seconds.

    This is nowhere near 1 seconds! Someone could get TWO Uppercut hits on you while this thing is casting.
    #CAREBEARMASTERRACE
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    I Tried it on PTS and it works amazing specialy when i pair it with new sets. no problems what so ever. Only the people who made over 40 rage posts say this
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    Zoal_AUG wrote: »
    I Tried it on PTS and it works amazing specialy when i pair it with new sets. no problems what so ever. Only the people who made over 40 rage posts say this

    How does it work amazingly? Its ok to get feedback, but specify a bit. Do you mean you dont have any problems with the cast time? In so, in which situations did you test it? On a target dummy? In trials? In pvp/bg's? Im curious.

    Which new sets is perfect to fit with channeled sheilds? This one too I would really like to know, I have to test your theories on my magplar and on my magsorc.

    Edit; I just checked your threads and comments. Let me say, the last 27 comments you have made, are trying to make fun of magsorcs complaining about shields and 2 showing off your argonian...Just saying....If I scroll further back Im pretty sure Ill find way more than 40 posts about magsorcs and shields from you.
    Edited by killimandrosb16_ESO on September 21, 2018 3:11PM
  • Nicko_Lps
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lol, sorcs been easymode for years, now when sorcs have to start to actually put some effort into their play they start to cry like spoiled babys

    You sound like the typical tank duo that tries to gank me and when fails whispers me same useless garbage like easy mode while they wear heavy armors and hide behind shields that mitigate 90% of the dmg when block.

    Im sure you never knew it, but a magsorc that kills any class atm uses alot more skill than you. Since magsorc is by far the most nerfed class in the game.


    I bet 100% that youre a tankling on heavy armor that is ignored by sorcs and he rage on forums.

    Most nerfed class in the game?!?! Hahahaha, its been practically untouched except the last dics. Oh the tears, keep em flowing. I can tell you never played any other class, welcome to the real world...

    Tell me, what class you play?

    Most nerfed class by FAR, since day 1 of this game. Dont know if you started it yesterday but i still recall everything, run to patch notes and check nerfs yourself.

    Your reply though makes me think that many sorcs have made you shed your tears in PvP. But guess what? L2P first, talk next.



    Have fun

    I am sure you will have no issues with upcoming nerfs, based on what you wrote in Vivec thread.

    Not really, when the nerfs come live ill leave the game and forum to you.
    Keep stalking me mr obsessed with me, i really enjoy your attention.

    Also, find me in game ALONE and pay some attention to me as well? Like a good warrior you are..
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lol, sorcs been easymode for years, now when sorcs have to start to actually put some effort into their play they start to cry like spoiled babys

    You sound like the typical tank duo that tries to gank me and when fails whispers me same useless garbage like easy mode while they wear heavy armors and hide behind shields that mitigate 90% of the dmg when block.

    Im sure you never knew it, but a magsorc that kills any class atm uses alot more skill than you. Since magsorc is by far the most nerfed class in the game.


    I bet 100% that youre a tankling on heavy armor that is ignored by sorcs and he rage on forums.

    Most nerfed class in the game?!?! Hahahaha, its been practically untouched except the last dics. Oh the tears, keep em flowing. I can tell you never played any other class, welcome to the real world...

    Tell me, what class you play?

    Most nerfed class by FAR, since day 1 of this game. Dont know if you started it yesterday but i still recall everything, run to patch notes and check nerfs yourself.

    Your reply though makes me think that many sorcs have made you shed your tears in PvP. But guess what? L2P first, talk next.



    Have fun

    I play magplar and i beat most sorcs, the top sorcs i ocasionally loose but mostly it ends Up a draw. Shieldstacking is just stupid, glad to see it nerfed. IF you know how to play a sorc u should only die when u get overrun by a zerg, but even that is easy avoidable IF u are aware and skilled, just pop shields and streak. Glad that easymode sorcs got nerfed, its totally needed

    Easy mode sorcs?
    You beat most sorcs on magplar?


    Like if you are aware youre unskilled you purge-heal-mistform like a sorc streak?

    1 mistake, and EZ mode sorc is instantly dead. How many mistakes your HARDMODE magplar can do before die? Yes forgeting to press BoL or HtD can make u die. Hardstuff.

    1v1 sorc DPS rotation vs YOU: Curse,reach,Frag,execute. Will need to be done like 500 times since you purge everything. If they are not 100% aligned together and the burst start when YOU will be at around 80% HP you will never die.

    1v1 defensive rotation of sorc vs YOU, 6 seconds shields. Cast both from a few meters away because if youre close enough you will burst BOTH of the shields before the burst is even being made.


    Now your dps rotation is like? Vampires bane+Purifying light+jabs+mostersetProc 3 skills+1proc, no timing no nothing just ooga booga jab+heal while you dps.

    Your surving rotation is Purge BoL-HtD. So how hardmode you are standing on your HoT's and runes like a tank?

    Your comment are the typical player that got hurt inside cyrodiil, like that other guy on top of this post that stalks me in forums because he has a sort of obsession with me.

    Now to be even MORE hard mode....Go stamplar, its a class that really makes me suffer :smiley:
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    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lol, sorcs been easymode for years, now when sorcs have to start to actually put some effort into their play they start to cry like spoiled babys

    You sound like the typical tank duo that tries to gank me and when fails whispers me same useless garbage like easy mode while they wear heavy armors and hide behind shields that mitigate 90% of the dmg when block.

    Im sure you never knew it, but a magsorc that kills any class atm uses alot more skill than you. Since magsorc is by far the most nerfed class in the game.


    I bet 100% that youre a tankling on heavy armor that is ignored by sorcs and he rage on forums.

    Most nerfed class in the game?!?! Hahahaha, its been practically untouched except the last dics. Oh the tears, keep em flowing. I can tell you never played any other class, welcome to the real world...

    Tell me, what class you play?

    Most nerfed class by FAR, since day 1 of this game. Dont know if you started it yesterday but i still recall everything, run to patch notes and check nerfs yourself.

    Your reply though makes me think that many sorcs have made you shed your tears in PvP. But guess what? L2P first, talk next.



    Have fun

    I play magplar and i beat most sorcs, the top sorcs i ocasionally loose but mostly it ends Up a draw. Shieldstacking is just stupid, glad to see it nerfed. IF you know how to play a sorc u should only die when u get overrun by a zerg, but even that is easy avoidable IF u are aware and skilled, just pop shields and streak. Glad that easymode sorcs got nerfed, its totally needed
    1. I always beat sorcs
    2. ???
    3. sorcs need nerfs

    Wait, what?
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • ErMurazor
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lol, sorcs been easymode for years, now when sorcs have to start to actually put some effort into their play they start to cry like spoiled babys

    You sound like the typical tank duo that tries to gank me and when fails whispers me same useless garbage like easy mode while they wear heavy armors and hide behind shields that mitigate 90% of the dmg when block.

    Im sure you never knew it, but a magsorc that kills any class atm uses alot more skill than you. Since magsorc is by far the most nerfed class in the game.


    I bet 100% that youre a tankling on heavy armor that is ignored by sorcs and he rage on forums.

    Most nerfed class in the game?!?! Hahahaha, its been practically untouched except the last dics. Oh the tears, keep em flowing. I can tell you never played any other class, welcome to the real world...

    Tell me, what class you play?

    Most nerfed class by FAR, since day 1 of this game. Dont know if you started it yesterday but i still recall everything, run to patch notes and check nerfs yourself.

    Your reply though makes me think that many sorcs have made you shed your tears in PvP. But guess what? L2P first, talk next.



    Have fun

    I am sure you will have no issues with upcoming nerfs, based on what you wrote in Vivec thread.

    Not really, when the nerfs come live ill leave the game and forum to you.
    Keep stalking me mr obsessed with me, i really enjoy your attention.

    Also, find me in game ALONE and pay some attention to me as well? Like a good warrior you are..
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lol, sorcs been easymode for years, now when sorcs have to start to actually put some effort into their play they start to cry like spoiled babys

    You sound like the typical tank duo that tries to gank me and when fails whispers me same useless garbage like easy mode while they wear heavy armors and hide behind shields that mitigate 90% of the dmg when block.

    Im sure you never knew it, but a magsorc that kills any class atm uses alot more skill than you. Since magsorc is by far the most nerfed class in the game.


    I bet 100% that youre a tankling on heavy armor that is ignored by sorcs and he rage on forums.

    Most nerfed class in the game?!?! Hahahaha, its been practically untouched except the last dics. Oh the tears, keep em flowing. I can tell you never played any other class, welcome to the real world...

    Tell me, what class you play?

    Most nerfed class by FAR, since day 1 of this game. Dont know if you started it yesterday but i still recall everything, run to patch notes and check nerfs yourself.

    Your reply though makes me think that many sorcs have made you shed your tears in PvP. But guess what? L2P first, talk next.



    Have fun

    I play magplar and i beat most sorcs, the top sorcs i ocasionally loose but mostly it ends Up a draw. Shieldstacking is just stupid, glad to see it nerfed. IF you know how to play a sorc u should only die when u get overrun by a zerg, but even that is easy avoidable IF u are aware and skilled, just pop shields and streak. Glad that easymode sorcs got nerfed, its totally needed

    Easy mode sorcs?
    You beat most sorcs on magplar?


    Like if you are aware youre unskilled you purge-heal-mistform like a sorc streak?

    1 mistake, and EZ mode sorc is instantly dead. How many mistakes your HARDMODE magplar can do before die? Yes forgeting to press BoL or HtD can make u die. Hardstuff.

    1v1 sorc DPS rotation vs YOU: Curse,reach,Frag,execute. Will need to be done like 500 times since you purge everything. If they are not 100% aligned together and the burst start when YOU will be at around 80% HP you will never die.

    1v1 defensive rotation of sorc vs YOU, 6 seconds shields. Cast both from a few meters away because if youre close enough you will burst BOTH of the shields before the burst is even being made.


    Now your dps rotation is like? Vampires bane+Purifying light+jabs+mostersetProc 3 skills+1proc, no timing no nothing just ooga booga jab+heal while you dps.

    Your surving rotation is Purge BoL-HtD. So how hardmode you are standing on your HoT's and runes like a tank?

    Your comment are the typical player that got hurt inside cyrodiil, like that other guy on top of this post that stalks me in forums because he has a sort of obsession with me.

    Now to be even MORE hard mode....Go stamplar, its a class that really makes me suffer :smiley:

    No im not hurt, in just telling the truth, a skilled magsorc cant die really. Thats not how its supposed to be. Your shieldstacking days are over finally, live with it
  • Nicko_Lps
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    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lol, sorcs been easymode for years, now when sorcs have to start to actually put some effort into their play they start to cry like spoiled babys

    You sound like the typical tank duo that tries to gank me and when fails whispers me same useless garbage like easy mode while they wear heavy armors and hide behind shields that mitigate 90% of the dmg when block.

    Im sure you never knew it, but a magsorc that kills any class atm uses alot more skill than you. Since magsorc is by far the most nerfed class in the game.


    I bet 100% that youre a tankling on heavy armor that is ignored by sorcs and he rage on forums.

    Most nerfed class in the game?!?! Hahahaha, its been practically untouched except the last dics. Oh the tears, keep em flowing. I can tell you never played any other class, welcome to the real world...

    Tell me, what class you play?

    Most nerfed class by FAR, since day 1 of this game. Dont know if you started it yesterday but i still recall everything, run to patch notes and check nerfs yourself.

    Your reply though makes me think that many sorcs have made you shed your tears in PvP. But guess what? L2P first, talk next.



    Have fun

    I am sure you will have no issues with upcoming nerfs, based on what you wrote in Vivec thread.

    Not really, when the nerfs come live ill leave the game and forum to you.
    Keep stalking me mr obsessed with me, i really enjoy your attention.

    Also, find me in game ALONE and pay some attention to me as well? Like a good warrior you are..
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lol, sorcs been easymode for years, now when sorcs have to start to actually put some effort into their play they start to cry like spoiled babys

    You sound like the typical tank duo that tries to gank me and when fails whispers me same useless garbage like easy mode while they wear heavy armors and hide behind shields that mitigate 90% of the dmg when block.

    Im sure you never knew it, but a magsorc that kills any class atm uses alot more skill than you. Since magsorc is by far the most nerfed class in the game.


    I bet 100% that youre a tankling on heavy armor that is ignored by sorcs and he rage on forums.

    Most nerfed class in the game?!?! Hahahaha, its been practically untouched except the last dics. Oh the tears, keep em flowing. I can tell you never played any other class, welcome to the real world...

    Tell me, what class you play?

    Most nerfed class by FAR, since day 1 of this game. Dont know if you started it yesterday but i still recall everything, run to patch notes and check nerfs yourself.

    Your reply though makes me think that many sorcs have made you shed your tears in PvP. But guess what? L2P first, talk next.



    Have fun

    I play magplar and i beat most sorcs, the top sorcs i ocasionally loose but mostly it ends Up a draw. Shieldstacking is just stupid, glad to see it nerfed. IF you know how to play a sorc u should only die when u get overrun by a zerg, but even that is easy avoidable IF u are aware and skilled, just pop shields and streak. Glad that easymode sorcs got nerfed, its totally needed

    Easy mode sorcs?
    You beat most sorcs on magplar?


    Like if you are aware youre unskilled you purge-heal-mistform like a sorc streak?

    1 mistake, and EZ mode sorc is instantly dead. How many mistakes your HARDMODE magplar can do before die? Yes forgeting to press BoL or HtD can make u die. Hardstuff.

    1v1 sorc DPS rotation vs YOU: Curse,reach,Frag,execute. Will need to be done like 500 times since you purge everything. If they are not 100% aligned together and the burst start when YOU will be at around 80% HP you will never die.

    1v1 defensive rotation of sorc vs YOU, 6 seconds shields. Cast both from a few meters away because if youre close enough you will burst BOTH of the shields before the burst is even being made.


    Now your dps rotation is like? Vampires bane+Purifying light+jabs+mostersetProc 3 skills+1proc, no timing no nothing just ooga booga jab+heal while you dps.

    Your surving rotation is Purge BoL-HtD. So how hardmode you are standing on your HoT's and runes like a tank?

    Your comment are the typical player that got hurt inside cyrodiil, like that other guy on top of this post that stalks me in forums because he has a sort of obsession with me.

    Now to be even MORE hard mode....Go stamplar, its a class that really makes me suffer :smiley:

    No im not hurt, in just telling the truth, a skilled magsorc cant die really. Thats not how its supposed to be. Your shieldstacking days are over finally, live with it

    A skilled magsorc can die if you have equal skill as him.
    Now if youre the typical forum whinebaby that refuses to L2P, no you cant kill him.

    Learn to play, cry less and your non L2P nerf whining soon will go against you by others, as people realized that this is the way to go on ESO.
  • ErMurazor
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lol, sorcs been easymode for years, now when sorcs have to start to actually put some effort into their play they start to cry like spoiled babys

    You sound like the typical tank duo that tries to gank me and when fails whispers me same useless garbage like easy mode while they wear heavy armors and hide behind shields that mitigate 90% of the dmg when block.

    Im sure you never knew it, but a magsorc that kills any class atm uses alot more skill than you. Since magsorc is by far the most nerfed class in the game.


    I bet 100% that youre a tankling on heavy armor that is ignored by sorcs and he rage on forums.

    Most nerfed class in the game?!?! Hahahaha, its been practically untouched except the last dics. Oh the tears, keep em flowing. I can tell you never played any other class, welcome to the real world...

    Tell me, what class you play?

    Most nerfed class by FAR, since day 1 of this game. Dont know if you started it yesterday but i still recall everything, run to patch notes and check nerfs yourself.

    Your reply though makes me think that many sorcs have made you shed your tears in PvP. But guess what? L2P first, talk next.



    Have fun

    I am sure you will have no issues with upcoming nerfs, based on what you wrote in Vivec thread.

    Not really, when the nerfs come live ill leave the game and forum to you.
    Keep stalking me mr obsessed with me, i really enjoy your attention.

    Also, find me in game ALONE and pay some attention to me as well? Like a good warrior you are..
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lol, sorcs been easymode for years, now when sorcs have to start to actually put some effort into their play they start to cry like spoiled babys

    You sound like the typical tank duo that tries to gank me and when fails whispers me same useless garbage like easy mode while they wear heavy armors and hide behind shields that mitigate 90% of the dmg when block.

    Im sure you never knew it, but a magsorc that kills any class atm uses alot more skill than you. Since magsorc is by far the most nerfed class in the game.


    I bet 100% that youre a tankling on heavy armor that is ignored by sorcs and he rage on forums.

    Most nerfed class in the game?!?! Hahahaha, its been practically untouched except the last dics. Oh the tears, keep em flowing. I can tell you never played any other class, welcome to the real world...

    Tell me, what class you play?

    Most nerfed class by FAR, since day 1 of this game. Dont know if you started it yesterday but i still recall everything, run to patch notes and check nerfs yourself.

    Your reply though makes me think that many sorcs have made you shed your tears in PvP. But guess what? L2P first, talk next.



    Have fun

    I play magplar and i beat most sorcs, the top sorcs i ocasionally loose but mostly it ends Up a draw. Shieldstacking is just stupid, glad to see it nerfed. IF you know how to play a sorc u should only die when u get overrun by a zerg, but even that is easy avoidable IF u are aware and skilled, just pop shields and streak. Glad that easymode sorcs got nerfed, its totally needed

    Easy mode sorcs?
    You beat most sorcs on magplar?


    Like if you are aware youre unskilled you purge-heal-mistform like a sorc streak?

    1 mistake, and EZ mode sorc is instantly dead. How many mistakes your HARDMODE magplar can do before die? Yes forgeting to press BoL or HtD can make u die. Hardstuff.

    1v1 sorc DPS rotation vs YOU: Curse,reach,Frag,execute. Will need to be done like 500 times since you purge everything. If they are not 100% aligned together and the burst start when YOU will be at around 80% HP you will never die.

    1v1 defensive rotation of sorc vs YOU, 6 seconds shields. Cast both from a few meters away because if youre close enough you will burst BOTH of the shields before the burst is even being made.


    Now your dps rotation is like? Vampires bane+Purifying light+jabs+mostersetProc 3 skills+1proc, no timing no nothing just ooga booga jab+heal while you dps.

    Your surving rotation is Purge BoL-HtD. So how hardmode you are standing on your HoT's and runes like a tank?

    Your comment are the typical player that got hurt inside cyrodiil, like that other guy on top of this post that stalks me in forums because he has a sort of obsession with me.

    Now to be even MORE hard mode....Go stamplar, its a class that really makes me suffer :smiley:

    No im not hurt, in just telling the truth, a skilled magsorc cant die really. Thats not how its supposed to be. Your shieldstacking days are over finally, live with it

    A skilled magsorc can die if you have equal skill as him.
    Now if youre the typical forum whinebaby that refuses to L2P, no you cant kill him.

    Learn to play, cry less and your non L2P nerf whining soon will go against you by others, as people realized that this is the way to go on ESO.

    No, u cant kill a top magsorc, i understand why u cant see that since u clearly havent reached that lvl of skill, i guess u have to leave the Path of the zerg to find thoose encounters.
  • Nicko_Lps
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    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lol, sorcs been easymode for years, now when sorcs have to start to actually put some effort into their play they start to cry like spoiled babys

    You sound like the typical tank duo that tries to gank me and when fails whispers me same useless garbage like easy mode while they wear heavy armors and hide behind shields that mitigate 90% of the dmg when block.

    Im sure you never knew it, but a magsorc that kills any class atm uses alot more skill than you. Since magsorc is by far the most nerfed class in the game.


    I bet 100% that youre a tankling on heavy armor that is ignored by sorcs and he rage on forums.

    Most nerfed class in the game?!?! Hahahaha, its been practically untouched except the last dics. Oh the tears, keep em flowing. I can tell you never played any other class, welcome to the real world...

    Tell me, what class you play?

    Most nerfed class by FAR, since day 1 of this game. Dont know if you started it yesterday but i still recall everything, run to patch notes and check nerfs yourself.

    Your reply though makes me think that many sorcs have made you shed your tears in PvP. But guess what? L2P first, talk next.



    Have fun

    I am sure you will have no issues with upcoming nerfs, based on what you wrote in Vivec thread.

    Not really, when the nerfs come live ill leave the game and forum to you.
    Keep stalking me mr obsessed with me, i really enjoy your attention.

    Also, find me in game ALONE and pay some attention to me as well? Like a good warrior you are..
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lol, sorcs been easymode for years, now when sorcs have to start to actually put some effort into their play they start to cry like spoiled babys

    You sound like the typical tank duo that tries to gank me and when fails whispers me same useless garbage like easy mode while they wear heavy armors and hide behind shields that mitigate 90% of the dmg when block.

    Im sure you never knew it, but a magsorc that kills any class atm uses alot more skill than you. Since magsorc is by far the most nerfed class in the game.


    I bet 100% that youre a tankling on heavy armor that is ignored by sorcs and he rage on forums.

    Most nerfed class in the game?!?! Hahahaha, its been practically untouched except the last dics. Oh the tears, keep em flowing. I can tell you never played any other class, welcome to the real world...

    Tell me, what class you play?

    Most nerfed class by FAR, since day 1 of this game. Dont know if you started it yesterday but i still recall everything, run to patch notes and check nerfs yourself.

    Your reply though makes me think that many sorcs have made you shed your tears in PvP. But guess what? L2P first, talk next.



    Have fun

    I play magplar and i beat most sorcs, the top sorcs i ocasionally loose but mostly it ends Up a draw. Shieldstacking is just stupid, glad to see it nerfed. IF you know how to play a sorc u should only die when u get overrun by a zerg, but even that is easy avoidable IF u are aware and skilled, just pop shields and streak. Glad that easymode sorcs got nerfed, its totally needed

    Easy mode sorcs?
    You beat most sorcs on magplar?


    Like if you are aware youre unskilled you purge-heal-mistform like a sorc streak?

    1 mistake, and EZ mode sorc is instantly dead. How many mistakes your HARDMODE magplar can do before die? Yes forgeting to press BoL or HtD can make u die. Hardstuff.

    1v1 sorc DPS rotation vs YOU: Curse,reach,Frag,execute. Will need to be done like 500 times since you purge everything. If they are not 100% aligned together and the burst start when YOU will be at around 80% HP you will never die.

    1v1 defensive rotation of sorc vs YOU, 6 seconds shields. Cast both from a few meters away because if youre close enough you will burst BOTH of the shields before the burst is even being made.


    Now your dps rotation is like? Vampires bane+Purifying light+jabs+mostersetProc 3 skills+1proc, no timing no nothing just ooga booga jab+heal while you dps.

    Your surving rotation is Purge BoL-HtD. So how hardmode you are standing on your HoT's and runes like a tank?

    Your comment are the typical player that got hurt inside cyrodiil, like that other guy on top of this post that stalks me in forums because he has a sort of obsession with me.

    Now to be even MORE hard mode....Go stamplar, its a class that really makes me suffer :smiley:

    No im not hurt, in just telling the truth, a skilled magsorc cant die really. Thats not how its supposed to be. Your shieldstacking days are over finally, live with it

    A skilled magsorc can die if you have equal skill as him.
    Now if youre the typical forum whinebaby that refuses to L2P, no you cant kill him.

    Learn to play, cry less and your non L2P nerf whining soon will go against you by others, as people realized that this is the way to go on ESO.

    No, u cant kill a top magsorc, i understand why u cant see that since u clearly havent reached that lvl of skill, i guess u have to leave the Path of the zerg to find thoose encounters.

    If you play PC EU, i will suggest you to duel one of my enemy, not friend Magica nightblade as a magsorc.

    A good nightblade is always superior, stamina maybe not. Magica 100% yes


    If you dont know how to do it, its not a magsorc faulth its your own fault
  • Vahrokh
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    And now you know why they are giving away murkmire as a daily reward. They knew the backlash this was going to create so to keep the numbers fluffed they added a quarterly dlc to the prizes.

    Makes sense now huh

    Too bad, a small DLC cannot compensate for 4 wasted years of efforts at gearing up, doing achievements and so on.
    Edited by Vahrokh on September 21, 2018 11:26PM
  • Lieblingsjunge
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    Feanor wrote: »
    Don’t argue with @ErMurazor. He plays NB.

    @Lieblingsjunge

    So, what do they bring, besides negate? Minor Intellect? Wow. Ok, you can spam
    Encase if you lack a DK with Talons. That’s about it for group play.

    Encase doesn't work. Skill's garbage. They provide streak stuns and excellent support :3
    Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
    PC - EU.
    Lieblingsjunge(AD) - Racechanged Argonian :< | AR 50 - No double AP or Bleakers involved |
    Sits-On-Cacti(DC) - Problem?
    Fail-With-Tail(AD) - Healing Springs-spammer :<
    Tiny Liebs(EP) - Very Tiny. Also heals.
    Lieblingsmädchen(DC) - Magplar is love.
    The Dominàtrix(AD) - Chains, whip, whip, whip.
    Fluffy Furball Kitten(DC) - Kittycat, meow.
    Your Face(EP) - People make bad jokes about my name =(
    Liebs-With-Trees(AD) - Male argo with a big tail :>

    Officer/Sandwitch of Zerg Squad
    My title: The Maneater, Destroyer of Maneuvers, Bane of Potatoes, she who devours them, The Black Hole, the humorless, first of her name.
  • dendisu
    dendisu
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    Absolutely ridiculous change. Sorcs are frail defensively as it is. This change will completely destroy their viability to all but the most elite players. If this makes it through to live I'm unsubbing for sure and probably stop playing all together. My main has been a sorc since the pre-release. Shields have been an essential part of every build I've played all these years.
    ZoS don't destroy a whole class with some bs excuse about pacing and little reduction to damage output as I've seen someone quote. It was fine as it is. If shields are such a problem nerf shield stacking.
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    The focus is on sorcs but this change is a death sentence for any magicka class using shields, including nightblades and wardens.
  • Cronopoly
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    When Templars got hit with the Nerf Bat with the Morrowind release, they could still main Heal Trials as a Primary Mastery.
    DK's Tank awesomely
    NB's top DPS (PVE & PVP)

    I remember my old Necromancer in DAoC. The Necro had a Pet form that did all their combat actions for them while the player was a shade and had 1 hp should the pet die... The Pet form would take 100% Crit Damage from all enemy player spells in PVP (RVR). TRADEOF; It was the best PVE solo Chain Farmer in the game, hands down.

    Where is the tradeoff? Sorcs are just to be mediocre? Why play one over a NB, I and many others are asking for the DPS role as thats our specialty? I could see being a super glass cannon if our DPS was just the best. But that's not the case. I still think Balancing by VMA clears by a 1% of players is stupid but that's just me.
    Edited by Cronopoly on September 23, 2018 12:15AM
  • Spartabunny08
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    Red dead redemption comes out Oct 26th, all I'm saying lol
  • Extinct_Solo_Player
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    It's ruining even roleplaying.
    Because how stupid it is? Using instant cast for years and then add huge delay? What emotions do you expect?

    Add delay to evasion, vigor, etc then? What's your problem?

    Vigor is a heal over time not an instant heal lmao
  • JadonSky
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    So new patch notes still show how much the developers don't play the game. They think being able to be interrupted was the reason why "CAST TIME" made shield users vulnerable for "TO LONG" not the fact they added a "CAST TIME" to force shield user to be vulnerable longer. Like who the hell is coming up with these changes and the reasoning. Still will not renew my subscription until the cast time is removed this is still not acceptable. There are better ways to nerf shield stacking that would not destroy a class. They have been provided throughout this forum and other threads but are ignored without any feed back from the developers to show they are actually listening to our concerns and ideas to better the game. For a game who needs their subscriber base and their plays they sure show a lack of caring for their player base with these type of changes.
    Daedric Summoning
    Conjured Ward: This ability and its morphs can no longer be interrupted.
    Developer Comment:
    Spoiler
    Because combat pace is so quick, allowing this ability to be interrupted meant that Light Armor players would be vulnerable for too long. Keeping the cast time, but now allowing it to be interrupted allows enemies a short window of time to get in burst damage and kill a damage shield user. We’ll continue to monitor feedback closely for this ability throughout this PTS cycle.
  • Dr.NRG
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    I tried on PTS. It's absolutely disgusting, awful, not comfortable. It's more then ONE SECOND, MORE LIKE THREE OR MORE SECONDS.

    Animation canceling not work. So vigor you can cast instant yes?

    Revert it back.
    You won ok. Make sorc dead at PVP, but back instant shield cast wtf, it's NOT COMFORTABLE TO PLAY I WANT TO QUIT, DON'T WANT TO PLAY PVE, DON'T WANT TO BUY YOUR DLC, CROWNS, GL.

    Dont quit! How about you try learning another class or adjust your build? Mag sorc is least fun class anyways, with other classes you got so much options and you actually feel like your doing something but spamming the same three buttons:)
    Edited by Dr.NRG on September 24, 2018 5:40PM
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  • The_Lex
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    Dr.NRG wrote: »
    I tried on PTS. It's absolutely disgusting, awful, not comfortable. It's more then ONE SECOND, MORE LIKE THREE OR MORE SECONDS.

    Animation canceling not work. So vigor you can cast instant yes?

    Revert it back.
    You won ok. Make sorc dead at PVP, but back instant shield cast wtf, it's NOT COMFORTABLE TO PLAY I WANT TO QUIT, DON'T WANT TO PLAY PVE, DON'T WANT TO BUY YOUR DLC, CROWNS, GL.

    How about you try learning another class or adjust you build? Mag sorc is least fun class anyways, with other vlasses you got so much options and you actually feel like your doing something but spamming the same three buttons:)

    I guess you were too busy white-knighting these changes that it never dawned on you that Ruikkarikun might actually enjoy playing a Sorc, and that it's your opinion that Sorc is the "least fun class."

    Troll.

    Edited by The_Lex on September 24, 2018 5:49PM
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