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Crowns for Gold - Legit?
AlCiao
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So I've seen a thing in zone chat lately where people will offer to indirectly sell crowns in exchange for gold (by buying requested items from crown store to gift to someone who gives them gold in exchange).
Is this acceptable? It's not against TOS or anything?
Also, how are these things done? Is there a way to ensure that the gifted player does in fact give the gold, and vice versa, to prevent possible scamming?
Thanks
Is this acceptable? It's not against TOS or anything?
Also, how are these things done? Is there a way to ensure that the gifted player does in fact give the gold, and vice versa, to prevent possible scamming?
Thanks
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Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭So I've seen a thing in zone chat lately where people will offer to indirectly sell crowns in exchange for gold (by buying requested items from crown store to gift to someone who gives them gold in exchange).
Is this acceptable? It's not against TOS or anything?
Also, how are these things done? Is there a way to ensure that the gifted player does in fact give the gold, and vice versa, to prevent possible scamming?
Thanks
Yes this is 100% legal, before you run into any scammers in zone chat though I suggest you check your PMs and give our discord a shot. It's a crown for gold exchange marketplace and we have dedicated sellers. We even have @ZOS_GinaBruno in it. We run only legitimate exchanges and reimburse our sellers and buyers should an Error occur. We also have ingame guilds if you'd be interested.
@AlCiao
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Also, scamming in crowns for gold exchange is against the TOS and ZOS will investigate and help you, should such thing occur. Edited by Nyladreas on September 20, 2018 3:22AM5 -
kadar✭✭✭✭✭
✭https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/417563/major-update-zos-official-response-on-whether-trading-gold-for-crowns-crown-store-items-is-allowed/
I've bought ~7000 crowns through that guys discord^ it's legitEdited by kadar on September 20, 2018 5:42AM1 -
Glurin✭✭✭✭✭
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All they need is for ZoS to add the arrow sign spinner emote.Edited by Glurin on September 20, 2018 7:09AM"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."1 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If you are nervous, screenshot your conversation/mails with the seller. Zos will help people who have been scammed if they have evidence to prove it
Good luck! I've successfully traded around 3 million worth of gold for crown items, just communicate your price before-hand, document it, and good luck!Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!1 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I still dont like it. People getting millions just cause they have decent paychecks...CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!4 -
geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
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All they need is for ZoS to add the arrow sign spinner emote.I still dont like it. People getting millions just cause they have decent paychecks...
hmmmmm, my natural inclination would be to agree with this view...
I don't know...maybe simply the present and future of video game commerce...
I still remember when all this stuff was cheat codes...PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place1 -
Jameliel✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've sold crowns twice so far. Half gold up front, and half after I send crown gift. Only takes a few minutes. Apparently zos actually handles situations if a party gets scammed. Anyone willing to lose their account just to temporarily possess a bit of gold or crown store item isnt too bright.1 -
Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ESO+ members who don't care about cosmetics will end up with a lot of crowns.
I don't do it, but I see no problem with it.0 -
Wonderboy✭✭✭I see it as an equalizer, really. It opens up access to crowns to those who simply cannot afford them and opens up gold more gold options to those who, perhaps, don't have the time or desire to do what it takes to rake in the millions in game in a more "traditional" way.
I imagine this is also a nice boost for ZoS and in turn, hopefully, the game in general as I have a strong feeling that more crowns are being bought these days because of this system and ZoS's allowance of the crown for gold trade.
I see no significant downside to this, really so long as a proportionate amount of the game's related financial success leaks back into the quality and quantity of content and general game experiences, events, etc.3 -
NoTimeToWait✭✭✭✭✭I see it as an equalizer, really. It opens up access to crowns to those who simply cannot afford them and opens up gold more gold options to those who, perhaps, don't have the time or desire to do what it takes to rake in the millions in game in a more "traditional" way.
I imagine this is also a nice boost for ZoS and in turn, hopefully, the game in general as I have a strong feeling that more crowns are being bought these days because of this system and ZoS's allowance of the crown for gold trade.
I see no significant downside to this, really so long as a proportionate amount of the game's related financial success leaks back into the quality and quantity of content and general game experiences, events, etc.
There is only one downside. With enough real cash injections you may get 5 Craglorn trader spots, if you wanted to wage trade war. I suppose, it would be short, costly (15-20 mil gold per place is no joke) but fun. Even if you don't want to wage war, you can indefinitely restrict some guild a trading spot if you provide continuous injections of cash. Maybe, such behavior is going to be regulated by ZOS if it occures.
Another downside is probably this one: because of the crown availability and saturation, the crown prices in crown store may start risingEdited by NoTimeToWait on September 20, 2018 9:05AM0 -
SpiderCultist✭✭✭✭✭Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
8000 dollars for that? Looks such a small ingame cash amount to be honest...
C'mon it's 8k
Edited by SpiderCultist on September 20, 2018 10:05AMPC | EU
Ashlander and Mephala worshipper.
"You are just another breed of domestic animal, grazing stupidly while higher beings plot your slaughter."0 -
Universe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett This is just one example for how unfair and unbalanced crown store items for gold trade is.
Please restrict or disallow it, it doesn't look good for you ZOS, it isn't decent for a gaming company such as you to allow gold buying.
A simple step to restrict it will go a long way:
The number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months.Edited by Universe on September 20, 2018 9:53AMSome videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
Started playing ESO in beta & early access
User_ID: Daedric_Prince2 -
Unknown_Redemption✭✭✭✭✭Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett This is just one example for how unfair and unbalanced crown store items for gold trade is.
Please restrict or disallow it, it doesn't look good for you ZOS, it isn't decent for a gaming company such as you to allow gold buying.
A simple step to restrict it will go a long way:
The number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months.
$8,000 in crown sales =/= 533 ESO+ months
Its not unbalanced.1 -
Universe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett This is just one example for how unfair and unbalanced crown store items for gold trade is.
Please restrict or disallow it, it doesn't look good for you ZOS, it isn't decent for a gaming company such as you to allow gold buying.
A simple step to restrict it will go a long way:
The number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months.
$8,000 in crown sales =/= 533 ESO+ months
Its not unbalanced.
This type of trade shouldn't be allowed to exist in the first place.
ZOS has made a mistake in allowing it.
This is real money for gold currency conversion.
Gold buying is extremely bad for ESO and it looks like the gold buying has reached the skies in this game.
I hope ZOS will understand why this practice is terrible and act to restrict or disallow it.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett Please don't let the community down and restrict or disallow this type of trade.Edited by Universe on September 20, 2018 10:09AMSome videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
Started playing ESO in beta & early access
User_ID: Daedric_Prince1 -
susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett This is just one example for how unfair and unbalanced crown store items for gold trade is.
Please restrict or disallow it, it doesn't look good for you ZOS, it isn't decent for a gaming company such as you to allow gold buying.
A simple step to restrict it will go a long way:
The number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months.
That gold is coming from within the system. So equilibrium is still there.1 -
Universe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett This is just one example for how unfair and unbalanced crown store items for gold trade is.
Please restrict or disallow it, it doesn't look good for you ZOS, it isn't decent for a gaming company such as you to allow gold buying.
A simple step to restrict it will go a long way:
The number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months.
That gold is coming from within the system. So equilibrium is still there.
It doesn't matter.
Players shouldn't get rich because they used their real money.
It's gold buying, almost same like gold buying from bots, just in this case ZOS makes the profit.
So basically ZOS is selling the gold while the players exchange the in-game virtual items and currency.Edited by Universe on September 20, 2018 10:14AMSome videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
Started playing ESO in beta & early access
User_ID: Daedric_Prince0 -
Unknown_Redemption✭✭✭✭✭Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett This is just one example for how unfair and unbalanced crown store items for gold trade is.
Please restrict or disallow it, it doesn't look good for you ZOS, it isn't decent for a gaming company such as you to allow gold buying.
A simple step to restrict it will go a long way:
The number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months.
That gold is coming from within the system. So equilibrium is still there.
It doesn't matter.
Players shouldn't get rich because they used their real money.
It's gold buying, almost same like gold buying from bots, just in this case ZOS makes the profit.
So basically ZOS is selling the gold while the players exchange the in-game virtual items and currency.
Correct, which is supporting the game you love.2 -
Universe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett This is just one example for how unfair and unbalanced crown store items for gold trade is.
Please restrict or disallow it, it doesn't look good for you ZOS, it isn't decent for a gaming company such as you to allow gold buying.
A simple step to restrict it will go a long way:
The number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months.
That gold is coming from within the system. So equilibrium is still there.
It doesn't matter.
Players shouldn't get rich because they used their real money.
It's gold buying, almost same like gold buying from bots, just in this case ZOS makes the profit.
So basically ZOS is selling the gold while the players exchange the in-game virtual items and currency.
Correct, which is supporting the game you love.
The game is becoming more and more P2W.
Hopefully, ZOS will understand they need to stop this practice before it's too late.Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
Started playing ESO in beta & early access
User_ID: Daedric_Prince0 -
Unknown_Redemption✭✭✭✭✭Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett This is just one example for how unfair and unbalanced crown store items for gold trade is.
Please restrict or disallow it, it doesn't look good for you ZOS, it isn't decent for a gaming company such as you to allow gold buying.
A simple step to restrict it will go a long way:
The number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months.
That gold is coming from within the system. So equilibrium is still there.
It doesn't matter.
Players shouldn't get rich because they used their real money.
It's gold buying, almost same like gold buying from bots, just in this case ZOS makes the profit.
So basically ZOS is selling the gold while the players exchange the in-game virtual items and currency.
Correct, which is supporting the game you love.
The game is becoming more and more P2W.
Hopefully, ZOS will understand they need to stop this practice before it's too late.
There is 0 PTW in ESO, are you trolling?2 -
Universe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett This is just one example for how unfair and unbalanced crown store items for gold trade is.
Please restrict or disallow it, it doesn't look good for you ZOS, it isn't decent for a gaming company such as you to allow gold buying.
A simple step to restrict it will go a long way:
The number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months.
That gold is coming from within the system. So equilibrium is still there.
It doesn't matter.
Players shouldn't get rich because they used their real money.
It's gold buying, almost same like gold buying from bots, just in this case ZOS makes the profit.
So basically ZOS is selling the gold while the players exchange the in-game virtual items and currency.
Correct, which is supporting the game you love.
The game is becoming more and more P2W.
Hopefully, ZOS will understand they need to stop this practice before it's too late.
There is 0 PTW in ESO, are you trolling?
Players buy gold while they made no in-game effort to obtain.
They didn't use the legit in-game methods for obtaining gold, such as: farming raw mats and selling the refined mats and tempers through guild traders etc.
They quite literally:
1) They Used their credit card to buy crown packs.
2) They bought the crown store items.
3) They exchanged the crown store items for in-game gold.
There is no doubt it is P2W.Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
Started playing ESO in beta & early access
User_ID: Daedric_Prince1 -
Unknown_Redemption✭✭✭✭✭Also, 250M gold is nothing.
Look at this months daily log in rewards (100,000g). Say 1,250,000 players on each platform receive the gold reward. 1,250,000p * 100,000g = 125 Billion Gold that will be introduced into each mega server.1 -
Unknown_Redemption✭✭✭✭✭Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett This is just one example for how unfair and unbalanced crown store items for gold trade is.
Please restrict or disallow it, it doesn't look good for you ZOS, it isn't decent for a gaming company such as you to allow gold buying.
A simple step to restrict it will go a long way:
The number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months.
That gold is coming from within the system. So equilibrium is still there.
It doesn't matter.
Players shouldn't get rich because they used their real money.
It's gold buying, almost same like gold buying from bots, just in this case ZOS makes the profit.
So basically ZOS is selling the gold while the players exchange the in-game virtual items and currency.
Correct, which is supporting the game you love.
The game is becoming more and more P2W.
Hopefully, ZOS will understand they need to stop this practice before it's too late.
There is 0 PTW in ESO, are you trolling?
Players buy gold while they made no in-game effort to obtain.
They didn't use the legit in-game methods for obtaining gold, such as: farming raw mats and selling the refined mats and tempers through guild traders etc.
They quite literally:
1) They Used their credit card to buy crown packs.
2) They bought the crown store items.
3) They exchanged the crown store items for in-game gold.
There is no doubt it is P2W.
You dont understand P2W.0 -
Universe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett This is just one example for how unfair and unbalanced crown store items for gold trade is.
Please restrict or disallow it, it doesn't look good for you ZOS, it isn't decent for a gaming company such as you to allow gold buying.
A simple step to restrict it will go a long way:
The number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months.
That gold is coming from within the system. So equilibrium is still there.
It doesn't matter.
Players shouldn't get rich because they used their real money.
It's gold buying, almost same like gold buying from bots, just in this case ZOS makes the profit.
So basically ZOS is selling the gold while the players exchange the in-game virtual items and currency.
Correct, which is supporting the game you love.
The game is becoming more and more P2W.
Hopefully, ZOS will understand they need to stop this practice before it's too late.
There is 0 PTW in ESO, are you trolling?
Players buy gold while they made no in-game effort to obtain.
They didn't use the legit in-game methods for obtaining gold, such as: farming raw mats and selling the refined mats and tempers through guild traders etc.
They quite literally:
1) They Used their credit card to buy crown packs.
2) They bought the crown store items.
3) They exchanged the crown store items for in-game gold.
There is no doubt it is P2W.
You dont understand P2W.
I understand what is P2W.
If a player can buy with real money the way to victory in-game it is P2W.
Being able to buy gold with real money is one example for P2W.
The gold currency is extremely valuable in-game and the players who buy the gold through crown store items for gold practice are winning.
This is a solid case of P2W.Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
Started playing ESO in beta & early access
User_ID: Daedric_Prince0 -
Unknown_Redemption✭✭✭✭✭Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett This is just one example for how unfair and unbalanced crown store items for gold trade is.
Please restrict or disallow it, it doesn't look good for you ZOS, it isn't decent for a gaming company such as you to allow gold buying.
A simple step to restrict it will go a long way:
The number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months.
That gold is coming from within the system. So equilibrium is still there.
It doesn't matter.
Players shouldn't get rich because they used their real money.
It's gold buying, almost same like gold buying from bots, just in this case ZOS makes the profit.
So basically ZOS is selling the gold while the players exchange the in-game virtual items and currency.
Correct, which is supporting the game you love.
The game is becoming more and more P2W.
Hopefully, ZOS will understand they need to stop this practice before it's too late.
There is 0 PTW in ESO, are you trolling?
Players buy gold while they made no in-game effort to obtain.
They didn't use the legit in-game methods for obtaining gold, such as: farming raw mats and selling the refined mats and tempers through guild traders etc.
They quite literally:
1) They Used their credit card to buy crown packs.
2) They bought the crown store items.
3) They exchanged the crown store items for in-game gold.
There is no doubt it is P2W.
You dont understand P2W.
I understand what is P2W.
If a player can buy with real money the way to victory in-game it is P2W.
Being able to buy gold with real money is one example for P2W.
The gold currency is extremely valuable in-game and the players who buy the gold through crown store items for gold practice are winning.
This is a solid case of P2W.
Having gold gives no combat advantage, unless I am missing some form of a bottle-cap grenade in ESO?1 -
Universe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett This is just one example for how unfair and unbalanced crown store items for gold trade is.
Please restrict or disallow it, it doesn't look good for you ZOS, it isn't decent for a gaming company such as you to allow gold buying.
A simple step to restrict it will go a long way:
The number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months.
That gold is coming from within the system. So equilibrium is still there.
It doesn't matter.
Players shouldn't get rich because they used their real money.
It's gold buying, almost same like gold buying from bots, just in this case ZOS makes the profit.
So basically ZOS is selling the gold while the players exchange the in-game virtual items and currency.
Correct, which is supporting the game you love.
The game is becoming more and more P2W.
Hopefully, ZOS will understand they need to stop this practice before it's too late.
There is 0 PTW in ESO, are you trolling?
Players buy gold while they made no in-game effort to obtain.
They didn't use the legit in-game methods for obtaining gold, such as: farming raw mats and selling the refined mats and tempers through guild traders etc.
They quite literally:
1) They Used their credit card to buy crown packs.
2) They bought the crown store items.
3) They exchanged the crown store items for in-game gold.
There is no doubt it is P2W.
You dont understand P2W.
I understand what is P2W.
If a player can buy with real money the way to victory in-game it is P2W.
Being able to buy gold with real money is one example for P2W.
The gold currency is extremely valuable in-game and the players who buy the gold through crown store items for gold practice are winning.
This is a solid case of P2W.
Having gold gives no combat advantage, unless I am missing some form of a bottle-cap grenade in ESO?
You can buy whatever bind on equip set item or upgrade your armor/weapons/jewelry much more easily with having a lot of gold.
It can provide an advantage when bidding on a guild trader over guilds who don't buy gold.
The list goes on.Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
Started playing ESO in beta & early access
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Unknown_Redemption✭✭✭✭✭Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett This is just one example for how unfair and unbalanced crown store items for gold trade is.
Please restrict or disallow it, it doesn't look good for you ZOS, it isn't decent for a gaming company such as you to allow gold buying.
A simple step to restrict it will go a long way:
The number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months.
That gold is coming from within the system. So equilibrium is still there.
It doesn't matter.
Players shouldn't get rich because they used their real money.
It's gold buying, almost same like gold buying from bots, just in this case ZOS makes the profit.
So basically ZOS is selling the gold while the players exchange the in-game virtual items and currency.
Correct, which is supporting the game you love.
The game is becoming more and more P2W.
Hopefully, ZOS will understand they need to stop this practice before it's too late.
There is 0 PTW in ESO, are you trolling?
Players buy gold while they made no in-game effort to obtain.
They didn't use the legit in-game methods for obtaining gold, such as: farming raw mats and selling the refined mats and tempers through guild traders etc.
They quite literally:
1) They Used their credit card to buy crown packs.
2) They bought the crown store items.
3) They exchanged the crown store items for in-game gold.
There is no doubt it is P2W.
You dont understand P2W.
I understand what is P2W.
If a player can buy with real money the way to victory in-game it is P2W.
Being able to buy gold with real money is one example for P2W.
The gold currency is extremely valuable in-game and the players who buy the gold through crown store items for gold practice are winning.
This is a solid case of P2W.
Having gold gives no combat advantage, unless I am missing some form of a bottle-cap grenade in ESO?
You can buy whatever bind on equip set item or upgrade your armor/weapons/jewelry much more easily with having a lot of gold.
It can provide an advantage when bidding on a guild trader over guilds who don't buy gold.
The list goes on.
Again, that is not PTW. As an example, PTW would be if I could reach otherwise unavailable gear (exclusive) to the Crown store; or extra powerful pots that can not be made in game, etc.
Edited by Unknown_Redemption on September 20, 2018 10:59AM4 -
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The only thing I buy with gold is Motifs...and in the grand scheme of things...what exactly are they winning?Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »Unknown_Redemption wrote: »This is what 1,000,000 Crowns ($8000USD) will get you:
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett This is just one example for how unfair and unbalanced crown store items for gold trade is.
Please restrict or disallow it, it doesn't look good for you ZOS, it isn't decent for a gaming company such as you to allow gold buying.
A simple step to restrict it will go a long way:
The number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months.
That gold is coming from within the system. So equilibrium is still there.
It doesn't matter.
Players shouldn't get rich because they used their real money.
It's gold buying, almost same like gold buying from bots, just in this case ZOS makes the profit.
So basically ZOS is selling the gold while the players exchange the in-game virtual items and currency.
Correct, which is supporting the game you love.
The game is becoming more and more P2W.
Hopefully, ZOS will understand they need to stop this practice before it's too late.
There is 0 PTW in ESO, are you trolling?
Players buy gold while they made no in-game effort to obtain.
They didn't use the legit in-game methods for obtaining gold, such as: farming raw mats and selling the refined mats and tempers through guild traders etc.
They quite literally:
1) They Used their credit card to buy crown packs.
2) They bought the crown store items.
3) They exchanged the crown store items for in-game gold.
There is no doubt it is P2W.
You dont understand P2W.
I understand what is P2W.
If a player can buy with real money the way to victory in-game it is P2W.
Being able to buy gold with real money is one example for P2W.
The gold currency is extremely valuable in-game and the players who buy the gold through crown store items for gold practice are winning.
This is a solid case of P2W.
If you want to see P2W...real P2W... go play Neverwinter...its free to play...Edited by sevomd69 on September 20, 2018 12:56PM1
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