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Alcast new video: Magsorcs just got deleted
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Can we have a MissBizz reads patch notes video?The_Patriarch wrote: »
lol. Maybe if I did anything even remotely similar to Alcast. Builds/clickbait and generally anything that has to do with combat and balance are not my area at all. Don't worry
@MissBizz
So you’re up for it?
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MalagenR✭✭✭✭✭Emmagoldman wrote: »Shadowasrial wrote: »To every single sorc who tells nightblades not to cry about our nerf after nerf after nerf I just have one thing to say to you....
Haaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaaaaaaaahahahahahaaaaaaaaaahhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
I'm going hunting for magnb myself. Detect pots, keep my wings up, and they only have one shield with a delay. Spam flame reach and cc yourself. I also run blade cloak and keep them out of cloak. With that new set that takes up 5500 health from their next heal and they are just ap cookies.
Sounds just *kind* of broken right? Almost like that is a bad system to put in place
You took Overload out of your name!?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
Can we have a MissBizz reads patch notes video?The_Patriarch wrote: »
lol. Maybe if I did anything even remotely similar to Alcast. Builds/clickbait and generally anything that has to do with combat and balance are not my area at all. Don't worry
@MissBizz
So you’re up for it?
Not trolling
Well I mean if you want to hear a high pitched girl scream out of excitement of being able to move your characters around in character select, along with some really misinformed (and not really caringly) mentions of balance changes, SURE! lol Oh, I'd probably have a rant about the tail things with scales not deserving their own dlc too but...
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✭✭✭✭✭Emmagoldman wrote: »Shadowasrial wrote: »To every single sorc who tells nightblades not to cry about our nerf after nerf after nerf I just have one thing to say to you....
Haaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaaaaaaaahahahahahaaaaaaaaaahhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
I'm going hunting for magnb myself. Detect pots, keep my wings up, and they only have one shield with a delay. Spam flame reach and cc yourself. I also run blade cloak and keep them out of cloak. With that new set that takes up 5500 health from their next heal and they are just ap cookies.
Sounds just *kind* of broken right? Almost like that is a bad system to put in place
You took Overload out of your name!?
That's a different Emma.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE4 -
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✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Emmagoldman wrote: »Shadowasrial wrote: »To every single sorc who tells nightblades not to cry about our nerf after nerf after nerf I just have one thing to say to you....
Haaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaaaaaaaahahahahahaaaaaaaaaahhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
I'm going hunting for magnb myself. Detect pots, keep my wings up, and they only have one shield with a delay. Spam flame reach and cc yourself. I also run blade cloak and keep them out of cloak. With that new set that takes up 5500 health from their next heal and they are just ap cookies.
Sounds just *kind* of broken right? Almost like that is a bad system to put in place
You took Overload out of your name!?
That's a different Emma.
There's two of you now.
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✭Honestly there's another stealth nerf to these shields if I remember the patch notes correctly. They removed the dodge frames at the end of the dodge roll animation that allowed you to cast one shield while still under the protection of dodge roll. So now it's more difficult to shield before or after a dodge roll, so once again zerglings get a buff, since their in flight projectiles will now connect with you after the dodge roll and won't even impact your shield... because you won't have one.
I predict this will hurt stam players running from hordes of players probably just as badly.
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ResTandRespeC✭✭✭✭Usually am not a big fan of Alcast advice on builds and such but i do agree with this.3
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✭✭generalmyrick wrote: »I made 4 magsorcs in the past 6 months...
maybe i should do like some of you folks and just keep 2 versions of each class instead of making stuff i have fun with.
Or try some other games..
I am loving the current survival game trend going on out there and have had zero desire to jump back into... well.. all of this. Though it certainly does make for some good reading lollove is love0 -
ResTandRespeC✭✭✭✭Funny how everyone says its just noob Sorcs crying on here, learn to adapt etc etc - then Alcast speaks and boom they STFU.
Didn't make me stop.
Alcast's streaming opinion really holds no sway in my book.
My assessment of Alcast?
He makes awesome guides!
Has a deeper understanding of builds and the way they affect combat.
But I wouldn't trust him to make balance decisions when those decisions affect the classes he enjoys the most.
^ Just another player like anyone else in regard to personal bias.
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DorianDragonRaze✭✭✭✭Alcast knows inside-outs of builds of classes. So if he dislikes the changes, then there is definitely a good reason besides clickbait and everything.Edited by DorianDragonRaze on September 18, 2018 10:22PMI used to be an adventurer like you, then I got the ESO on my hard drive...1 -
ResTandRespeC✭✭✭✭HansaBergen wrote: »I hope all sorc leaves the game. Less lagging for me than.. Streak away sorcerers! We ain't gonna miss you..
They’ll either shut down what’s left or increase subscription rates to make up for the lost revenue. Just trying to help you get a clue on how these things work. You have a lot of PvE casuals that aren’t on these forums who will logon one day and their main toon won’t work. Many will go so far as to see the new cast time as a bug. They will just quit game and move on. Silently without saying a word. You should really think through the overall repercussions of that with regards to the game you seem to enjoy.
Well... PvE casuals don't have a deep enough knowledge or skill to even notice the change is that bad. Most people can't even keep a fast paced rotation or use animation cancel, all this for someone who doesn't play the game everyday or doesn't read the forums, well... It's irrelevant. They just adapt easier because they are not even that used to their toons rotation anyway. Most just have good looking skills with no synergy between them or the sets they use... Do you think not having an insta shield will make any difference? It won't. I'll tell you more, even for daily casual players it won't matter because they don't play end game veteran pve content, only, as you said so yourself, casual content aka normal.
Nah... This is just another case of usual crybabies being crybabies, only this time is a very popular OP-AF class/play-style, so the crying is a lot louder.
And I do agree that it was a heavy handed take, 1s is too much, .5s would be more than enough to achieve what they want, but this will only ever affect end game hardcore players, as it's true with absolutely every balance ever in every game. Casuals just enjoy the fun. Casuals won't create a full new character or spend a crapton of money to rebuild. They are, obviously, just casuals. The very definition of casual being that you're just enjoying the game, not going full on hardcore. Balancing changes are, for business stand point, never bad. Even more so, they are beneficial as it gives purpose to hardcore people and makes casuals more competitive for when they decide to take on a challenge.
Sorcs are undoubtedly op, or they wouldn't be as popular. Same for NB, who will, pay attention to what I'm saying now, get nerfed for real soon, just like sorcs were.
And screw meta-mimic players. Most lack the creativity to work around nerfs, so they whine because they'll be weak and useless until alkast tells them what to do. That's the root of all the issues here, btw. Whiny mimic meta-only players.
You make mostly right points for mostly wrong reasons. Balance changes should be focused around endgame content because people doing normal level content wont notice. Sorcs have been bottom tear for awhile now in vet level content. This just push them further down. High level players will always adapt. Its those working their way up that get screwed.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Is "member of Hodor" supposed to mean something to me? Or "top PvE player"?
God all this over just a cast time for shields. Maybe take this as a reason to not build so squishy?CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Akimbro✭✭✭✭Is "member of Hodor" supposed to mean something to me? Or "top PvE player"?
God all this over just a cast time for shields. Maybe take this as a reason to not build so squishy?
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✭✭The only thing that comes to mind regarding current sorc behavior.
https://youtu.be/klVhwlwHhY4
Not trolling or insulting, but "the end is nigh" style of posting doesn't work. It's sort of like professional athletes that never learned that in ~2800 years of officiated sports, no referee has ever changed their call because you argued with them.1 -
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✭Over reactions like mad. Its not perhaps how many of us would have tuned shields.
But shields have needed tuning a long time.
Dramatic folks will be dramatic.Esse quam videri.3 -
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✭✭Dark Souls isn’t hard. It’s hard when you have zero clue what you’re doing. Please don’t compare the two. You learn from your mistakes with the Soulsborne series. I wish people would stop whining. Learn to play without a shield, stam characters do just fine.3 -
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✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Emmagoldman wrote: »Shadowasrial wrote: »To every single sorc who tells nightblades not to cry about our nerf after nerf after nerf I just have one thing to say to you....
Haaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaaaaaaaahahahahahaaaaaaaaaahhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
I'm going hunting for magnb myself. Detect pots, keep my wings up, and they only have one shield with a delay. Spam flame reach and cc yourself. I also run blade cloak and keep them out of cloak. With that new set that takes up 5500 health from their next heal and they are just ap cookies.
Sounds just *kind* of broken right? Almost like that is a bad system to put in place
You took Overload out of your name!?
That's a different Emma.
There's two of you now.
Logical step is a fight to the death for name rights.
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✭✭Also in high ping environment these one minute cool times break animation wise and DO NOT go off... So these will get us killed..
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✭✭✭I mean- ZOS did nerf Templar Breath of Life spamming builds... then DK permablock builds... now they're nerfing shield stacking builds... the only thing left is cloak spamming builds.
That should pretty much equalize out all of our OP survivability.
Edited by Savos_Saren on September 19, 2018 12:44AMWant to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
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C3N50R3D✭✭✭Alcast is a famous, multiple classes top PvE player, member of Hodor and more.
He's also the guy who streamed a blind Dark Souls run (first time he ever seen the game) and completed 2 hours of it! Yeah the same game most quickly just give up because of how difficult it is.
Now, Alcast has just posted a video where he lists a number of reasons why, if the nerfs go through, magsorcs are DEAD. R.I.P.
Some of his clearly not "politically correct" quotes in the video:
"Death sentence for sorcs".
"I don't know who thought this was a good idea".
"Who comes up with this kind of ideas".
"In PvP you'll be mostly dead before you cast the shield".
"This is really not the right way to balance sh***".
"This would completely destroy magsorc in PvP and it won't be fun any more to play in PvE".
"This is a really, really bad change".
"I really don't know who the sh** came off with this change. Definitely somebody who does not play the game, that's for sure".
Video: Did ZOS just delete Sorcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B087K6AdPMM
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Magblades got buffed so far ahead of magsorcs for endgame trials dps in previous patches that the new negative nightblade changes don't affect their dps as much, percentagewise. Magsorcs never had the same amount of continuous heal per hit skills as magblades, all they had was their shields that were needed in certain trials. Its another case of PvE suffers because of so called PvP balance which could have been solved in multiple other, not so draconian, ways.4 -
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✭✭OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »Dark Souls isn’t hard. It’s hard when you have zero clue what you’re doing. Please don’t compare the two. You learn from your mistakes with the Soulsborne series. I wish people would stop whining. Learn to play without a shield, stam characters do just fine.
So basically nerf/change vigour from Stam DPS is what you are saying? I see no reason why vigour can't have a 1 second cast time as well.Edited by karekiz on September 19, 2018 12:46AM1 -
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✭✭Is "member of Hodor" supposed to mean something to me? Or "top PvE player"?
God all this over just a cast time for shields. Maybe take this as a reason to not build so squishy?
How about not make classes so squishy and they would need to build against it..Edited by DanteYoda on September 19, 2018 12:46AM0 -
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✭Savos_Saren wrote: »I mean- ZOS did nerf Templar Breath of Life spamming builds... then DK permablock builds... now they're nerfing shield stacking builds... the only thing left is cloak spamming builds.
That should pretty much equalize out all of our OP survivability.
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✭✭✭✭Alcast is a famous, multiple classes top PvE player, member of Hodor and more.
He's also the guy who streamed a blind Dark Souls run (first time he ever seen the game) and completed 2 hours of it! Yeah the same game most quickly just give up because of how difficult it is.
Now, Alcast has just posted a video where he lists a number of reasons why, if the nerfs go through, magsorcs are DEAD. R.I.P.
Some of his clearly not "politically correct" quotes in the video:
"Death sentence for sorcs".
"I don't know who thought this was a good idea".
"Who comes up with this kind of ideas".
"In PvP you'll be mostly dead before you cast the shield".
"This is really not the right way to balance sh***".
"This would completely destroy magsorc in PvP and it won't be fun any more to play in PvE".
"This is a really, really bad change".
"I really don't know who the sh** came off with this change. Definitely somebody who does not play the game, that's for sure".
Video: Did ZOS just delete Sorcshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B087K6AdPMM
But I was told in another thread the fact that Alcast streaming Blackrose run on a sorcerer proved that the class was fine!!??1 -
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✭✭✭Emmagoldman wrote: »Savos_Saren wrote: »I mean- ZOS did nerf Templar Breath of Life spamming builds... then DK permablock builds... now they're nerfing shield stacking builds... the only thing left is cloak spamming builds.
That should pretty much equalize out all of our OP survivability.
they nerfed the perma block, limitless streak, and infinite dodge a long time ago
Right. I'm just saying that it's Sorc's turn and then it will be NightBlade's turn. Just as Templars and DKs had to diversify our builds- eventually so will Sorcs and NBs.Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
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