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    Sorc is the most boring class in the game so good.. when I first started playing ESO everyone said sorc was hard to play.. yeah yeah...hmm so I never tried it, but when I did.. holy crap... you can pretty much kill anything with 2 skills..

    What is the point.. I'm glad they killed it.. better they bring in a new magica class then keep this tired one top of the tree..
    Just a poor healer from Glenumbra..
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    moonio wrote: »
    Sorc is the most boring class in the game so good.. when I first started playing ESO everyone said sorc was hard to play.. yeah yeah...hmm so I never tried it, but when I did.. holy crap... you can pretty much kill anything with 2 skills..

    What is the point.. I'm glad they killed it.. better they bring in a new magica class then keep this tired one top of the tree..

    Lol
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    these developers are clueless! ive talked with the majority of my friends in the eso community that are all vets, the dialogue/feedback is very negative and if this patch goes live its safe to say this game will decline even further .
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    moonio wrote: »
    Sorc is the most boring class in the game so good.. when I first started playing ESO everyone said sorc was hard to play.. yeah yeah...hmm so I never tried it, but when I did.. holy crap... you can pretty much kill anything with 2 skills..

    What is the point.. I'm glad they killed it.. better they bring in a new magica class then keep this tired one top of the tree..

    LAWLSASSIE!

    Sorcs at the top of the tree....

    I bet you think magdens are godlike too huh
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    Astrid_V wrote: »
    What's the point of this whole Class Rep system if ZOS don't even care what they say?

    Because they can point to it and claim they do pay attention whenever topics like this come up.

    At the end of the day it doesnt matter what the intention was behind the feedback, its what they do with that feedback that matters. Class Reps were never going to solve the issue of ZOS making terrible decisions. Having their ear on these things doesnt mean theyll agree to those Reps logic or insight. Only that they can parade it around when people become dissatisfied with the ultimate decisions being made at ZOS.
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    Ozazz wrote: »
    these developers are clueless! ive talked with the majority of my friends in the eso community that are all vets, the dialogue/feedback is very negative and if this patch goes live its safe to say this game will decline even further .

    same here... sad. But maybee is time to move...
    zenimax, FIX THE GAME
  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    Jinchuu wrote: »
    Is he Romanian, Czech or Swedish? I'm struggling to place the accent.

    The changes also murder more than just sorcs.

    German.
  • Ozazz
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    Alcast is getting good with the clickbait I must say.

    To be fair, it's not like other ESO streamers weren't any less guilty...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZxFVvCiXU

    to be fair Deltia for saw the future of this game and the direction as well as sypher and king Richard, what do they all have in common??? lmfao we should of all took the memo!
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    moonio wrote: »
    Sorc is the most boring class in the game so good.. when I first started playing ESO everyone said sorc was hard to play.. yeah yeah...hmm so I never tried it, but when I did.. holy crap... you can pretty much kill anything with 2 skills..

    What is the point.. I'm glad they killed it.. better they bring in a new magica class then keep this tired one top of the tree..

    That opinion is subjective and glad you were so OP you could kill everything with 2 skillz
    ....you...are....freaking.....awesome....

    You do understand sorcs are supposed to be damage dealers? Not tanks, not healers, not a utility class...a damage dealer
    Edited by Hurtfan on September 18, 2018 4:01PM
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  • ItsMeToo
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    0.o It really does look like you are taking a dump when you use hardened ward.

    Never take a dump... always leave them.
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  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    JESUS CHRIST THIS MAG SORCS FUNNY HOW HE SAYS MAG SORCS NOT MAGICKA CLASSES BEST CHANGE EVER
    And all this ppl who cannot accept that time has come to give up ur godship are crying and treatening to leave the game just leave it already noone will miss you we non elite community of non sorcerers will have fun playing our game and we will get more better and greater community without you thx. Zenimax finnaly stood up and did something about this shieldstacking bs. Good job zos about time. ty

    Typical "I dont give a damn as long as its not me" comment, top notch my friend, thats why humanity is in such a pitiful state.

    Flashing news: Whatever your class is, it will get nerfed eventually, and ill be there to collect your tears.

    I laughed while reading this but it’s v true
    Edited by Reistr_the_Unbroken on September 18, 2018 4:06PM
  • wuka91
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    bpmachete wrote: »
    I called it that if they kept crying about other classes dodge rolling they would hang them selves... if they want to implement this make it a .5 second cast time and also make it so cast time abilities in general don't snare you, like they did with uppercut and jabs.

    This does still provide some counter play to a shield stacker (.5 cast time) honestly some players could be unkillable one v one if all they did was heavy attack resto and shield stack.
    Also people are freking out, if they remove the self snares from cast time abilities, a .5 interrupt won't be that bad, and if you do get interrupted, you can use the other light armor shield for example and you won't be able to be interrupted with the CC immunity. Also looks like healing ward will still be instacast.

    1 second way to long, .5 still allows the weave, and remove the slow down to speed on all cast time abilities is a must.

    who the *** cares if they cant be killed resto heavy and shield stacking. I guarantee you you won't be getting killed by that magsorc because his dmg will be trash for his shields to be that strong. and if you do die than you're complete trash. sorry but this is the truth
    Edited by wuka91 on September 18, 2018 4:08PM
  • moonio
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    Hurtfan wrote: »
    moonio wrote: »
    Sorc is the most boring class in the game so good.. when I first started playing ESO everyone said sorc was hard to play.. yeah yeah...hmm so I never tried it, but when I did.. holy crap... you can pretty much kill anything with 2 skills..

    What is the point.. I'm glad they killed it.. better they bring in a new magica class then keep this tired one top of the tree..

    That opinion is subjective and glad you were so OP you could kill everything with 2 skillz
    ....you...are....freaking.....awesome....

    You do understand sorcs are supposed to be damage dealers? Not tanks, not healers, not a utility class...a damage dealer


    yeah yeah.. I know,, glass cannon.. 500k dps, you can't catch me.. but still, they are boring to play imo..

    I went to Sorc after maining a bow on a Stamplar for ages.. people said I couldn't.. I did it... nuff said.. :open_mouth:
    Just a poor healer from Glenumbra..
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    moonio wrote: »
    Hurtfan wrote: »
    moonio wrote: »
    Sorc is the most boring class in the game so good.. when I first started playing ESO everyone said sorc was hard to play.. yeah yeah...hmm so I never tried it, but when I did.. holy crap... you can pretty much kill anything with 2 skills..

    What is the point.. I'm glad they killed it.. better they bring in a new magica class then keep this tired one top of the tree..

    That opinion is subjective and glad you were so OP you could kill everything with 2 skillz
    ....you...are....freaking.....awesome....

    You do understand sorcs are supposed to be damage dealers? Not tanks, not healers, not a utility class...a damage dealer


    yeah yeah.. I know,, glass cannon.. 500k dps, you can't catch me.. but still, they are boring to play imo..

    I went to Sorc after maining a bow on a Stamplar for ages.. people said I couldn't.. I did it... nuff said.. :open_mouth:

    Wow, you truthfully know nothing about this game, let alone Sorc.
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  • moonio
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    Valrien wrote: »
    moonio wrote: »
    Hurtfan wrote: »
    moonio wrote: »
    Sorc is the most boring class in the game so good.. when I first started playing ESO everyone said sorc was hard to play.. yeah yeah...hmm so I never tried it, but when I did.. holy crap... you can pretty much kill anything with 2 skills..

    What is the point.. I'm glad they killed it.. better they bring in a new magica class then keep this tired one top of the tree..

    That opinion is subjective and glad you were so OP you could kill everything with 2 skillz
    ....you...are....freaking.....awesome....

    You do understand sorcs are supposed to be damage dealers? Not tanks, not healers, not a utility class...a damage dealer


    yeah yeah.. I know,, glass cannon.. 500k dps, you can't catch me.. but still, they are boring to play imo..

    I went to Sorc after maining a bow on a Stamplar for ages.. people said I couldn't.. I did it... nuff said.. :open_mouth:

    Wow, you truthfully know nothing about this game, let alone Sorc.

    Thanks for the insight
    Just a poor healer from Glenumbra..
  • Valrien
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    moonio wrote: »
    Valrien wrote: »
    moonio wrote: »
    Hurtfan wrote: »
    moonio wrote: »
    Sorc is the most boring class in the game so good.. when I first started playing ESO everyone said sorc was hard to play.. yeah yeah...hmm so I never tried it, but when I did.. holy crap... you can pretty much kill anything with 2 skills..

    What is the point.. I'm glad they killed it.. better they bring in a new magica class then keep this tired one top of the tree..

    That opinion is subjective and glad you were so OP you could kill everything with 2 skillz
    ....you...are....freaking.....awesome....

    You do understand sorcs are supposed to be damage dealers? Not tanks, not healers, not a utility class...a damage dealer


    yeah yeah.. I know,, glass cannon.. 500k dps, you can't catch me.. but still, they are boring to play imo..

    I went to Sorc after maining a bow on a Stamplar for ages.. people said I couldn't.. I did it... nuff said.. :open_mouth:

    Wow, you truthfully know nothing about this game, let alone Sorc.

    Thanks for the insight

    No problem. Bow Stamplar says basically all I need to know about you
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  • moonio
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    Thanks I appreciate that you know how hard I struggled..
    Just a poor healer from Glenumbra..
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    JESUS CHRIST THIS MAG SORCS FUNNY HOW HE SAYS MAG SORCS NOT MAGICKA CLASSES BEST CHANGE EVER
    And all this ppl who cannot accept that time has come to give up ur godship are crying and treatening to leave the game just leave it already noone will miss you we non elite community of non sorcerers will have fun playing our game and we will get more better and greater community without you thx. Zenimax finnaly stood up and did something about this shieldstacking bs. Good job zos about time. ty

    @ExcaliburESO

    Here’s the problem with your point of view. It comes off as if there is a belief that each class should go through cycles of being dominant and from changes eventually useless in many circumstances.

    While everyone won’t agree, the issue is the developers are intentionally creating circumstances where ppl would be forced to create new characters and level up/start over.

    From a business standpoint you could make some arguments that it makes sense, however the reality is when done in this manner some will actually quit, some will express things publicly that may cause others to steer clear or also leave.

    The longevity of this game will likely live and possibly die based on this and other intentional changes.

    The solution also isn’t to revert things back. I’ve made threads and participated in a few other the years with ideas here and there but ZOS has their own ideas that seem to follow a F2P and P2W format. I don’t play a magic sorc and that was never my main, however my main is a magic Templar whose felt very similar changes in years past that were never “balanced” in which also have made the class less desired or invaluable as a healer or DPS.

    As is...upsetting large portions of class communities seems intentional and without merit. There aren’t changes making these large nerfs, later powerful so to continue nerfs isn’t a step towards balance, it’s pushing very fast now towards further breaking the game and leaving classes pointless which I’ve argued many times...

    Perhaps their goal should be to make this a TES like system vs whatever other MMO they began making in which TES likeness was dumped into back in early development and closed beta.
    Edited by NewBlacksmurf on September 18, 2018 4:40PM
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  • The_Lex
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    Alcast is getting good with the clickbait I must say.

    Given then fact that you actively stream/YouTube, your comment comes off as a bit self-serving (a.k.a. petty and a bit cat-y).
  • f047ys3v3n
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    Alcast is getting good with the clickbait I must say.

    To be fair, it's not like other ESO streamers weren't any less guilty...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZxFVvCiXU

    To be fair, Deltia did quit that day and not come back for 12 months. Pretty badly planned clickbait.

    As for who thought of these changes. I think we all know it's the wobbler. Proving that even with good advice, than man is a menace. Honestly, fire him already.

    I don't actually think the changes wreck sorcs. I think they wreck all mag toons and will empty trials out again just like wobblers sustain changes did last year. I also think they will, yet again, encourage greater cheat engine use as it's survivability advantages will increase just as it's dps advantages and sustain advantages increased after the morrowind changes.

    Just when you think the wobbler is out of bad ideas this *** happens. That advisory counsel really has proved worthless. I'm sure they gave some advice but it's like talking to a *** rock. Why is it we have to constantly completely rework the basics of combat causing more than half the players to quit every year? Man do I wish I had not done a 6 month resub last month. I want to take a year or two off myself.
    I am currently worried for the future of ESO. Population seems like it is in free fall and the cancellation of the North America in-person gathering feels very much like pulling the plug. Kudos on fixing the in-game economy though. Clearly whatever gold shenanigans were happening the last couple years are fixed.
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    He’s absolutely correct about cast times — this is a reactive, fast-paced combat game, and there’s nothing reactive about a cast time on magicka shields.

    Imagine if regular blocking had a 1 second cast time. Or if cloak had a 1 second cast time. Or if dodge rolling had a 1 second cast time.

    Yeah, the changes affect all mag classes, but they ESPECIALLY affect sorc because hardened ward is our primary “oh s***” defence. There are PLENTY of counters to magicka shields already — from CP, to sets, to weapon enchants. If you can’t deal with a sorc stacking wards, and you’ve equipped yourself appropriately to counter their shields, then YOU are the problem, not the sorc.
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  • Rukia541
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    Man adding cast time is not the answer.. if you're gonna nerf then nerf, don't destroy combat with stupid decisions.
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    f047ys3v3n wrote: »
    Man do I wish I had not done a 6 month resub last month. I want to take a year or two off myself.

    You may be able to get the remaining months refunded, though not 100% sure.
    Edited by Numerikuu on September 18, 2018 5:03PM
  • moonio
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    Well anyway... all skills and abilities now have cast times due to the poor performance of the servers etc etc.

    There is a reason why ZOS do not focus on vet content or players... no-one in their right mind would ever consider playing this game to a high level with the amount of bugs and server issues you have to deal with let alone the constant changes with every patch..

    You are better off just buying pretty things in the crown store than actually trying to play the game.. (ZOS business model)

    Just a poor healer from Glenumbra..
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    moonio wrote: »
    Sorc is the most boring class in the game so good.. when I first started playing ESO everyone said sorc was hard to play.. yeah yeah...hmm so I never tried it, but when I did.. holy crap... you can pretty much kill anything with 2 skills..

    What is the point.. I'm glad they killed it.. better they bring in a new magica class then keep this tired one top of the tree..

    How do we save this post? I am sure we will not get a new magika class, but when their class get's nerfed wonder if we will see you start complaining. Wow happy that a game is not properly balanced and classes nerfed. Wonder what you will say or do when it happens to you.
    Not my quote but I love this saying

    "I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"
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    Every darn major patch. The same outrage, the same "RIP x class" threads, the same "I'm quitting" threads." and yet people are still here.

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  • The_Lex
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Every darn major patch. The same outrage, the same "RIP x class" threads, the same "I'm quitting" threads." and yet people are still here.

    Yeah, but this is even more outrage than Morrowind. And we lost quite a few veterans after that patch.

  • MissBizz
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    Alcast is getting good with the clickbait I must say.

    Given then fact that you actively stream/YouTube, your comment comes off as a bit self-serving (a.k.a. petty and a bit cat-y).

    lol. Maybe if I did anything even remotely similar to Alcast. Builds/clickbait and generally anything that has to do with combat and balance are not my area at all. Don't worry :)
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