Biro123 wrote: »

In that there will be far, far fewer targets for it.

I should be careful what I wish for.

you're wrong
shields will be on every1 in battle now, those small shields will last longer, will stack with 10 other sets that give targets shields.

Biro123 wrote: »

Yeah, you're right about that..
Was thinking about maybe a heavy infused torugs setup with shield glyph..

The shield changes are a huge buff to heavy.

Heavy magsorcs are probably going to be BiS for tanking now

Juhasow wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Yeah, you're right about that..
Was thinking about maybe a heavy infused torugs setup with shield glyph..

The shield changes are a huge buff to heavy.

Heavy magsorcs are probably going to be BiS for tanking now

No.

Yeah they lack the utility that DKs have so you're probably right.

From my experience survival hasn't been an issue for tanks in PVE. Tanks have been dropping self preservation/sustain sets left and right for group buff sets. As such I would think sorc tanking is only likely in PVP. I do agree that this is a massive buff for heavy+shields.

OrdoHermetica wrote: »

prototypefb wrote: »

you're wrong
shields will be on every1 in battle now, those small shields will last longer, will stack with 10 other sets that give targets shields.

You, uh... you do realize that shields almost never last their full duration, right? Because they're burned through immediately in most circumstances? And that the whole reason people shield stack is because that's the only to keep shields up for any real length of time? And that shield stacking costs lots of magicka?

Duration was never the problem with shields.

He's talking about stuff like shield procs from sets like undaunted bastion, and shielding glyphs etc. On a high resist/impen heavy armour user, they will last longer now than ever before.
I kind of think this could be the new meta. Does nothing for magsorc though...

I smirked.

Sandman929 wrote: »

OrdoHermetica wrote: »

prototypefb wrote: »

you're wrong
shields will be on every1 in battle now, those small shields will last longer, will stack with 10 other sets that give targets shields.

You, uh... you do realize that shields almost never last their full duration, right? Because they're burned through immediately in most circumstances? And that the whole reason people shield stack is because that's the only to keep shields up for any real length of time? And that shield stacking costs lots of magicka?

Duration was never the problem with shields.

Shields burn quick because they had no armor mitigation...now they do. I think it's a pretty interesting change that's getting drowned out by people who don't want their superpowers taken away.

Okay, sure, they have armor mitigation... from light armor. Which is to say: very little. Not enough to make a difference here. Sure, tanks will benefit considerably from this, but then... tanks are in no way dependent on shields. My warden tank doesn't have a single damage shield and handles vet content fine.

Also, I don't play a magsorc in PvP or PvE. I mainly play stam characters, with a handful of mag characters. I have no interest in keeping my "superpowers." However, shields are literally the only defensive ability that most light armor builds have. Even as someone who mainly plays stam characters, I've seen (and played) enough magicka builds in action to realize that this is a terrible idea.