Dizzying swing is very hard to land with lag or if the ennemy is experienced

I dropped it a long time agi

I use dizzy and although it has it's issues I still think it's strong and love the skill, I also use a controller lol so it can be annoying at times.

I run heavy armor though and tried bleeds, they was really powerful but I find them op so I went back to my 2h/snb setup.

Dizzy is garbage. I have been running a 42 k stamina, 42 crit percent, heavy setup with like 5kplus weapon damage DW and 2H That sounds amazing because u can slaughter noobs but in 1v1s your sustain is bad even with 1400 Stam Regen and dark deal just because there is no CC other than dawnbreaker plus no pressure without a good defile..... you have two bleeds and u can run double dot poisons to help though. BUT it's still okay at duels and they can't really kill u if u don't want them to. Ur main goal is to dump a dawn breaker that has like a 20 k tooltip after fury is proced and weapon damage glph then spin them out with nado.

GreenhaloX wrote: »

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RighteousBacon wrote: »

Am I the last of the dizzying swing build, medium armor stam sorcs? All I see nowadays is heavy armor, dual wield, dawnbreaker + spin to win spamming stam sorcs nowadays.

It makes sense if this is the case though. It seems to be a much stronger set up.

Dizzyswing is still the beez knees broooooooooooooooooo

Sure.. for PvE..

I about fell over reading this LOLz!

If you use dizzyswing in pve, I bet people cringe when you tell them what you run in pvp. Dizzyswing is strictly a pvp morph... not only that... 2h is strictly pvp continue providing epic feedback though.

Crixus8000 wrote: »

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Aedaryl wrote: »

Dizzing swing is ***.

Heroic slash + bash does the same damage and give you much more.

Why people can't see it ? Console player cannot make it for technical reasons ?

Bash on console is clunky.

You have to hold block then use the light attack button. So not only is it clunky, because you hit block it cuts off stam regen.

Yeah I tried the heroic/bash combo and hated it because of that reason. I used to hate dizzy swing too but I like it now, it's still high damage and a cc. I just think dizzy benefits tankier setups more. I tried it a lot with a more burst setup and it was too frustrating, by time I landed dizzy I would have already taken too much dmg. Now though I can play with it fine unless it's a stamblade running through my body the whole fight.

I can really relate to the part where you say you feel like ur almost dead by the time you land a dizzying swing while in medium armor

I'm the 3rd sorc that's using it in the whole world prolly so no u're not alone...I just hate the dual wield visuals or whatever you wanna call it, doesn't fit a heavy orc stamsorc at all so I'd rather *** myself over using dizzying swing than suffer unsatisfactory gameplay

I've tried both and DW spin to win playstyle is good against potatoes when you DB + spin people with less than 25k health down. It's better than 2h in groups too. But this playstyle is literally just about staying alive and running around until your DB is up. You don't have great sustained pressure apart from rending slashes and poisons in between, so masters DW is almost a necessity. Stam sorc does not have a class spammable, and imbue weapon is *** on console when you are lagging and light attacks literally just don't register.

2H with dizzying is only good if you run speed pots and have access to a snare. It makes dizzying swing waaaay easier to land. I run 2h + s + B and heroic slash snare + speed pots makes dizzying much, MUCH easier to land. If i didn't use a snare + speed pot combo, it would honestly be a terrible skill. But the 2h dizzying playstyle at least feels like you can do something when dawnbreaker isn't up.

so to sum it up, DW better for group play and synergizes better with stam sorc's ability to be speedy and survive long enough to get a DB + spin to win combo up. 2H better for 1v1 in open field but requires snares + speed pots

MrDenimChicken wrote: »

I've tried both and DW spin to win playstyle is good against potatoes when you DB + spin people with less than 25k health down. It's better than 2h in groups too. But this playstyle is literally just about staying alive and running around until your DB is up. You don't have great sustained pressure apart from rending slashes and poisons in between, so masters DW is almost a necessity. Stam sorc does not have a class spammable, and imbue weapon is *** on console when you are lagging and light attacks literally just don't register.

2H with dizzying is only good if you run speed pots and have access to a snare. It makes dizzying swing waaaay easier to land. I run 2h + s + B and heroic slash snare + speed pots makes dizzying much, MUCH easier to land. If i didn't use a snare + speed pot combo, it would honestly be a terrible skill. But the 2h dizzying playstyle at least feels like you can do something when dawnbreaker isn't up.

so to sum it up, DW better for group play and synergizes better with stam sorc's ability to be speedy and survive long enough to get a DB + spin to win combo up. 2H better for 1v1 in open field but requires snares + speed pots

I see. I’m currently running 2h and s&b with ransack instead of heroic slash. Maybe I’ll give it a try

Qbiken wrote: »

Lately I´ve been running:

• 5 Clever Alchemist (CA)
• 5 Mechanical Acuity (MA)
• Bloodspawn (can be replaced with Balorgh for even more damage)
• Random 2- hander on the backbar for Forward Momentum (FM)

5 Heavy, 1 Medium, 1 Light
All impenetrable with tristat enchant on big pieces, and max stamina on small pieces.

Running 3 Swift and dual-wield MA on the frontbar (Spin2Win setup). Basically a "Hit and Run" playstyle where you go in try to cause as much damage as possible and then get out. Having 3x swift + major/minor expedition + FM + Immovable makes you nearly untouchable. Unless another stamsorc is running something similar in terms of swift, you can escape without any issues.

I´ve tried it mainly in BG´s where you have a lot of "line of sight" opportunities, otherwise it´s a really fun setup for group play if you can coordinate your ultimate (Dawnbreaker) with your teammates ultimates. In terms of skills I use:

Frontbar (dual-wield): Vigor, Hurricane, Crit-Surge, Blood Craze, Steel Tornado, Dawnbreaker of Smithing
Backbar (2-hander): Dark Deal, Ball of Lightning, Forward Momentum, Deep Thoughts, Stampede, Temporal Guard

Wouldn't Seventh Legion Brute be better than Mechanical Acuity for healing (with critical surge)? The 18 seconds cooldown discourages me from using it...

im Still playing my main Stam Sorc orc in medium 2h bow. Your not alone. Still waiting on them to give 2h some love regarding dizzy swingz