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best medium stamina dd sets for PVP?

MKintr
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What are the best medium sets for stamina-dds for PVP in Cyrodiil? (templar or dragon knight)

Usually those basic sets are recommended:
Shacklebreaker, Draugr Hulk, Bone Pirate's Tatters

Are there even better ones?
  • Onebitsoul
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    The only thing that would be better is all of those combined. Jokes aside, Spriggan is alright and Sheer Venom looks fun for a DK. Using Shacklebreaker and Bone Pirate on my DK right now.
    Edited by Onebitsoul on September 16, 2018 9:10PM
  • Drakkdjinn
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    PvP builds are all about synergy; while there are some that work well across multiple classes & builds (most you linked above), they are not the best for everyone's build, simply the most commonly used. So there's not going to be much to be gained by asking which is "the best for stam".
  • CyrusArya
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    Impreg. #buff medium armor.

    Real talk tho, the best best medium damage sets are Automaton, Spriggans, Bone Pirate imo. Poisonous serpent is also very strong but a sleeper set since it’s a trial drop. I don’t see myself running anything else since with jelwery crafting you can run the big damage heavy armor sets in medium. Since for some reason heavy sets give way more damage. Two great crafted options are hundings and night mothers gaze.
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  • MKintr
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    Drakkdjinn wrote: »
    PvP builds are all about synergy; while there are some that work well across multiple classes & builds (most you linked above), they are not the best for everyone's build, simply the most commonly used. So there's not going to be much to be gained by asking which is "the best for stam".

    can you give examples for such combinations for synergy?
  • Fur_like_snow
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    Eternal hunt seems to be coming back in popularity lately.
  • Drakkdjinn
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    MKintr wrote: »
    Drakkdjinn wrote: »
    PvP builds are all about synergy; while there are some that work well across multiple classes & builds (most you linked above), they are not the best for everyone's build, simply the most commonly used. So there's not going to be much to be gained by asking which is "the best for stam".

    can you give examples for such combinations for synergy?

    Sure if you can give me more details on what you're trying to accomplish in terms of playstyle as well as your class, without those details there's really not much true help to be offered.
  • MKintr
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    Sure if you can give me more details on what you're trying to accomplish in terms of playstyle as well as your class, without those details there's really not much true help to be offered.[/quote]

    My class is templar (secondary dragon knight).
    play style would be dealing max. damage (penetration?), mainly offensive and direct attack.
  • Drakkdjinn
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    MKintr wrote: »
    My class is templar (secondary dragon knight).
    play style would be dealing max. damage (penetration?), mainly offensive and direct attack.

    Thanks - do you play in no-CP (Battlegrounds, Sotha) or with Cheese Points? (Vivec, Shor)

    Regardless -

    Stamplar, aka 'Stapler', has great passive damage, healing & the best active mitigation for DoTs via ritual as well as the best skill available to generate procs from melee damage - jabs. It's Achille's heal is its terrible, terrible sustain.

    The above in mind, Bone Pirate is going to be at the top of your list, by a mile, because of its fabulous sustain, even though you listed it already, consider it your best friend. There are alternatives to B0n3r Pir@t3 if you can manage Meditate, but thats trickier.

    From bone pirate as a baseline, you gotta think "do I want more damage or suvivability?" for your second set; if being more of a glass cannon is your thing (like, a huge cannon) Ravager is a really great option (note it helps to have the $ummerset expansion to run Ravager as this will allow you to run the set in medium armor by transmuting Ravager jewelry, b/c Zo$ paywalled jewelrycrafting behind this DLC). Spriggans Agility are also good Stamplar options.

    If you are dying too much to your liking, Fortified brass & Impregnable Armor or Armor Master will take care if squishyness.

    Can't decide between survivability or more dmg? Veiled Heritance & Shacklebreaker are good middle of the road options, as they provide some form of damage & mitigation (Shacklebreaker's mitigation comes in the form of magicka/magregen buffs - more rituals = more living).

    My stamplar currently uses: Bone Pirate, Ravager & Troll King, it's on the squishy side but hits like a truck.

    Hope that helps.
  • Yellow_Monolith
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    MKintr wrote: »
    What are the best medium sets for stamina-dds for PVP in Cyrodiil? (templar or dragon knight)

    Usually those basic sets are recommended:
    Shacklebreaker, Draugr Hulk, Bone Pirate's Tatters

    Are there even better ones?

    Viper is alright on a dot stam dk and vicious serpent is great because the 2 5 piece bonus make up for minor slayer
    Edited by Yellow_Monolith on September 16, 2018 10:33PM
  • MKintr
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    thank you for your suggestions

    @Drakkdjinn:
    isn't a only "8% chance to increase your Weapon Damage" from Ravager too small? Also I often use ranged attacks, like the throwing spear.
  • Drakkdjinn
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    MKintr wrote: »
    thank you for your suggestions

    @Drakkdjinn:
    isn't a only "8% chance to increase your Weapon Damage" from Ravager too small? Also I often use ranged attacks, like the throwing spear.

    It procs fine with Jabs.
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    Mix ravager, selenes and senche on my orc stamplar. 37k stam and 4.5k wep damage 1500 regen 27k resists 27k health
    Zaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
    Soul Razor- Altmer Magsorc
    Les Drago- Redguard Stamdk
    Eirius- Altmer Magdk
    Stormifeth- Altmer Magplar

    Disclaimer: My comments are a little sarcasm mixed with truth. If you can't handle that don't respond to me.

  • Drakkdjinn
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    usmguy1234 wrote: »
    Mix ravager, selenes and senche on my orc stamplar. 37k stam and 4.5k wep damage 1500 regen 27k resists 27k health

    +1, This is an excellent build especially for CP & highlights Senche as another dmg/sustain option (wouldn't take it into no-CP BGs or Sotha personally though).
  • Night_Wolf2112
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    While we're at it...

    What's the best recommended race for a Stamplar DD?
  • usmguy1234
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    Drakkdjinn wrote: »
    usmguy1234 wrote: »
    Mix ravager, selenes and senche on my orc stamplar. 37k stam and 4.5k wep damage 1500 regen 27k resists 27k health

    +1, This is an excellent build especially for CP & highlights Senche as another dmg/sustain option (wouldn't take it into no-CP BGs or Sotha personally though).

    Thank you kind sir!
    Zaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
    Soul Razor- Altmer Magsorc
    Les Drago- Redguard Stamdk
    Eirius- Altmer Magdk
    Stormifeth- Altmer Magplar

    Disclaimer: My comments are a little sarcasm mixed with truth. If you can't handle that don't respond to me.

  • Kanar
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    On my stamDK I like Ward of cyrodiil if you're missing defile (like bow w/o snipe/2h or dw/2h). Spriggan's is decent. Prisoner's is pretty awesome if you use a lot of magicka abilities.

    Bow + Morag tong + sheer venom is fun, but snipe is hard to use effectively unless you're ganking. Clever alchemist is ok but also hard to use imo.
  • usmguy1234
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    While we're at it...

    What's the best recommended race for a Stamplar DD?

    Orc or imperial imo
    Edited by usmguy1234 on September 17, 2018 12:32AM
    Zaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
    Soul Razor- Altmer Magsorc
    Les Drago- Redguard Stamdk
    Eirius- Altmer Magdk
    Stormifeth- Altmer Magplar

    Disclaimer: My comments are a little sarcasm mixed with truth. If you can't handle that don't respond to me.

  • Odnoc
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    I don't know about dd, but I use viper/sloads/Valkyn for sd, seems to work well.
  • D0PAMINE
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    While we're at it...

    What's the best recommended race for a Stamplar DD?

    I like Orc or Redguard
  • Drakkdjinn
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    While we're at it...

    What's the best recommended race for a Stamplar DD?

    IMO - Redguard

    Mine's an Orc.
    Edited by Drakkdjinn on September 17, 2018 12:37AM
  • CyrusArya
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    While we're at it...

    What's the best recommended race for a Stamplar DD?

    As someone who's long time Stamplar main is a Redguard, Orc is unequivocally better. Think about it. Redguard gives you better sustain and a bit more (4%) max stamina. Orc gives you a bit less stamina at 6%, but also gives you 6% health alongside it. It gives you better healing (huge) AND health regen (great synergy with gold food), and it gives you sprint speed+cost reduction AND extra physical damage. Literally every single Orc passive gives multiple buffs. And they all happen to be completely conducive to the Stamplar (and really any Stamina) play style- survivability, mobility, and damage.The one advantage Redguard confers in better sustain also happens to be the easiest thing to build for or compensate for in the game. Orc's advantages are much more difficult to acquire though gear and such.

    Its no contest.
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  • MKintr
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    would it be better to have high penetration or high damage?

    Spriggan's Thorns has 3450 Physical Penetration
    Viper's Sting has an additional 6400 Poison damage
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    Khajiit best race for everything yes?
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