Crown Store Gifting - a little tweak

stitchesofdooom · September 2018

I'm pretty untrusting of people in general. Experience.

Could you tweak the crown store gifting system so that people can gift but with a "Cash on Delivery" function so the need for trust when selling crown items to people is removed. There's always that one guy qho will happily screw you over.

Aurielle · September 2018

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

I'm pretty untrusting of people in general. Experience.

Could you tweak the crown store gifting system so that people can gift but with a "Cash on Delivery" function so the need for trust when selling crown items to people is removed. There's always that one guy qho will happily screw you over.

Alternative solution to keep from getting screwed over: purchase Crown items using your own money, and only gift items to people you know in exchange for nothing. That’s what a “gift” is.

I know ZOS is okay with exchanging gold for Crowns, but you guys MUST realize that this is really no different than gold selling, right? It’s a shady practice, and as with any shady practice, there are risks involved. It’s really discouraging to see this, speaking as someone who’s been playing MMOs for a long time.

Beardimus · September 2018

It makes sense that this is implemented if gold for crowns (cash) really is going to remain a legitimate thing. However I think they kinda of organically fell into this hence no real mechanism.

Personally I think this is a really bad path for the game, and actually @stitchesofdooom im suprised you are ok with it given the other things in your signiture.

Legitimising real world cash for gold in game is an unhappy path, personally a way bigger wrong than Crown Crates which dont impact other players.

Eso101rus · September 2018

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

I'm pretty untrusting of people in general. Experience.

Could you tweak the crown store gifting system so that people can gift but with a "Cash on Delivery" function so the need for trust when selling crown items to people is removed. There's always that one guy qho will happily screw you over.

Words like gift and trust might ring a little bell here? Why would you not trust someone to receive a gift? Exactly, only deal with trusted people, anything else could end in tears.

Aurielle · September 2018

Eso101rus wrote: »

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

I'm pretty untrusting of people in general. Experience.

Could you tweak the crown store gifting system so that people can gift but with a "Cash on Delivery" function so the need for trust when selling crown items to people is removed. There's always that one guy qho will happily screw you over.

Words like gift and trust might ring a little bell here? Why would you not trust someone to receive a gift? Exactly, only deal with trusted people, anything else could end in tears.

Also, the only people I know of who get compensated for “gifts” are politicians and investors with agendas.

Sheezabeast · September 2018

Many people simply acrue Crowns from their subs. If they are sitting on unused Crowns and want to exchange them for game gold, why not?

Anyone who thinks this is likened to selling game gold for cash on the black market is out of touch with the reality of how much Crown packs cost, and how impractical it is to spend real money to invest in in game gold, at a fluctuating, changing, not set in stone exchange rate that players agree upon between themselves and the buyer.

People don’t bat an eye at selling dungeon skins, but this takes the cake? Really?

Also I support OPs idea of COD.

Aurielle · September 2018

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Many people simply acrue Crowns from their subs. If they are sitting on unused Crowns and want to exchange them for game gold, why not?

Anyone who thinks this is likened to selling game gold for cash on the black market is out of touch with the reality of how much Crown packs cost, and how impractical it is to spend real money to invest in in game gold, at a fluctuating, changing, not set in stone exchange rate that players agree upon between themselves and the buyer.

People don’t bat an eye at selling dungeon skins, but this takes the cake? Really?

Also I support OPs idea of COD.

Are people selling dungeon skins for in-game gold, or for real money?

It’s the real money aspect that makes it shady. By sanctioning gold selling through Crown store “gifting,” ZOS is able to profit. That is the only difference between this and illegitimate gold selling.

If you don’t think this is an issue, have you seen how much trader bids are going for these days? Crown store “gifting” just makes it that much easier for trade guild GMs of the shadier variety to “gift” their accrued Crowns in exchange for millions of gold to buy up all the trader real estate.

It’s sad what’s happening to this game.

Callum · September 2018

Gifting for COD , will you then also be charged an INSANE cod fee because you're selling something that costs 1 million gold ? , i think any seller of their crowns would tell you to go take a hike , personally i have no issues selling crowns and if you ever need anything on PC NA , feel free to get in touch with me ingame

@Callumdk

50% of my sales are from the trading guilds im part of , the rest i picked up in zone chat

As you can see there is so many sales i i'd need to be able to drag the window in order to show every sale, ofc it doesn't count those that expire after 14 days , but thats why i take a SS after every sale

stitchesofdooom · September 2018

Beardimus wrote: »

It makes sense that this is implemented if gold for crowns (cash) really is going to remain a legitimate thing. However I think they kinda of organically fell into this hence no real mechanism.

Personally I think this is a really bad path for the game, and actually @stitchesofdooom im suprised you are ok with it given the other things in your signiture.

Legitimising real world cash for gold in game is an unhappy path, personally a way bigger wrong than Crown Crates which dont impact other players.

I'm not wasting my money, but if someone else is determined to then I'll happily buy their crown shizz with gold

stitchesofdooom · September 2018

Callum wrote: »

Gifting for COD , will you then also be charged an INSANE cod fee because you're selling something that costs 1 million gold ? , i think any seller of their crowns would tell you to go take a hike , personally i have no issues selling crowns and if you ever need anything on PC NA , feel free to get in touch with me ingame @Callumdk

50% of my sales are from the trading guilds im part of , the rest i picked up in zone chat

As you can see there is so many sales i i'd need to be able to drag the window in order to show every sale, ofc it doesn't count those that expire after 14 days , but thats why i take a SS after every sale

if the fee is unpaid, crowns are refunded

stitchesofdooom · September 2018

LOL, MAKE YOUR MINDS UP, PEOPLE:

When I make a thread saying that the Banker and Merchant assistants are a rip-off, people tell me that I should be subscribing and then I'd get crowns. Thay they're worth the cost. That 7 months of subs (more than the cost of the base game at launch) is fair and paying monthly is how it should be.

When I suggest a way to make this new buying crown items from people for gold thing a bit safer, I'm told how it's a shady business practice because changing real money for an in game currency is somehow devious.

So NOW Crowns should be treated as real money, and real money should not be squandered?

LukosCreyden · September 2018

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

LOL, MAKE YOUR MINDS UP, PEOPLE:

When I make a thread saying that the Banker and Merchant assistants are a rip-off, people tell me that I should be subscribing and then I'd get crowns. Thay they're worth the cost. That 7 months of subs (more than the cost of the base game at launch) is fair and paying monthly is how it should be.

When I suggest a way to make this new buying crown items from people for gold thing a bit safer, I'm told how it's a shady business practice because changing real money for an in game currency is somehow devious.

So NOW Crowns should be treated as real money, and real money should not be squandered?

@stitchesofdooom fun fact for you; this forum is made up of lots of different people with different opinions.

stitchesofdooom · September 2018

LukosCreyden wrote: »

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

LOL, MAKE YOUR MINDS UP, PEOPLE:

When I make a thread saying that the Banker and Merchant assistants are a rip-off, people tell me that I should be subscribing and then I'd get crowns. Thay they're worth the cost. That 7 months of subs (more than the cost of the base game at launch) is fair and paying monthly is how it should be.

When I suggest a way to make this new buying crown items from people for gold thing a bit safer, I'm told how it's a shady business practice because changing real money for an in game currency is somehow devious.

So NOW Crowns should be treated as real money, and real money should not be squandered?

@stitchesofdooom fun fact for you; this forum is made up of lots of different people with different opinions.

and I seem to mostly attrcat the ones that disagree with me.

...sorry, different people think differently? y'think?