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Dawnbreaker & Vigor needs looking at.
Moosey27
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the AOE effect on dawnbreaker needs to go away. Maybe make it single target. It would balance the stam and Mag classes and not have a stamina zerg going that can't be stopped. There is no negate for stamina. Same with vigor get rid of the aoe. You have over powered stamina with just those 2 abilities.
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MashmalloMan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This game should not be balanced around zerg's as it's primary concern. Anytime you get 30 people together with aoe skills they're op. The skills are fine. They removed aoe cap's for a reason.25 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes nerfs most stamina builds only dmg ult.
1 Magplar heal bot is worse than 6 guys keeping vigor up.
Any zerg dropping ults = dead.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...18 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Stam is a bit strong, but it’s the mobility that makes it so not these two abilitiesEdited by Lexxypwns on September 14, 2018 7:54PM14 -
Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Stamina is a bit too strong right now, but not for vigor/dbos, but because of swift+FM, and bleeds in general.Edited by Ragnarock41 on September 14, 2018 8:42PM0 -
Asmael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Vigor OP? That's a joke? It's at most 30% of my healing if I am focusing solely on defense, between 10 and 20% for most fights.
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_Ahala_✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, nerfing the only good stam aoe ult and on demand heal will not fix zergs... that will just push more people into zergs6 -
Solariken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I think Vigor is in a good spot since they increased the cost, I don't see any issues there currently.
Dawnbreaker of Smiting is too strong IMO, I've been saying for a long time that it should lose the stun which is what makes it so over-the-top nasty. Then it would be in a good place - you have Flawless for more passive dmg boost and Smiting for more on-demand burst dmg.3 -
Jjitsuboy98✭✭✭✭the AOE effect on dawnbreaker needs to go away. Maybe make it single target. It would balance the stam and Mag classes and not have a stamina zerg going that can't be stopped. There is no negate for stamina. Same with vigor get rid of the aoe. You have over powered stamina with just those 2 abilities.
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IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭Against mobility: Gapcloser
Against forward momentum: CCs
against bleeds: cloak, HoT, shields
Theres a counter 4 everything
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Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.2 -
IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭The only thing which is op is DBoS which needs a cost increase or something, the rest is fine as it is..
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Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.3 -
CyrusArya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭You can nerf DBoS when every stam spec has a class ulti that’s on par with incap.9 -
Finviuswe✭✭✭✭Mangeli200194 wrote: »Against mobility: Gapcloser
Against forward momentum: CCs
against bleeds: cloak, HoT, shields
Theres a counter 4 everything
Against DBoS: Block
That's it. That's all you have to do. You block it. You just don't let it hit you straight on without blocking or dodging. And it's already a very expensive ulti.
If it killing you were unavoidable, other ultis would have killed you as well.
So, in sum, "Me die from it" ≠ Must be nerfed.5 -
IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭@ESO_GOD Agreed..... Shure Dbos is nasty if stacked but so are other ults: deestro ult, soul teather, meteor, permafrost, etc
By themselves non of them r op.....
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Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.1 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭the AOE effect on dawnbreaker needs to go away. Maybe make it single target. It would balance the stam and Mag classes and not have a stamina zerg going that can't be stopped. There is no negate for stamina. Same with vigor get rid of the aoe. You have over powered stamina with just those 2 abilities.
I suppose you'd be totally cool when ZOS feels it has to nerf your magicka class to counterbalance gutting two key stam abilities.Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.4 -
Lasinagol✭✭✭Dawnbreaker is always in my deathcap when fighting a stam person with a brain, but it isn't the only reason I die. Usually it isn't being able to mitigate bursts or perma stunned with cc stacking.
That said...it would be nice to have some sort of negate stamina option and not be singled out for being a magicka purist. Warden's fungal growth becomes a stam heal, the cliff racer could use a muzzle in a bubble...Edited by Lasinagol on September 15, 2018 9:40AMAltmer Supremist, filthy spell slinger since Nerevar was assasinated0 -
olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭im all for taking away the aoe from vigor, dawnbreaker is too good compared to a plethura of the other stamulties, but pls dont nerf it..id rather see a buff to the other ulties
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Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Can we stop with the #nerfeverythingtotheground movement in these forums.
Seriously, what's going to be left of this game? It's going the route where everything will be unkillable because everyone wants damage reduced.
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Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The only issue Dawnbreaker has is that it can be animation canceled to the point you almost don’t see it at all. Especially when it’s laggy.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.5 -
Lasinagol✭✭✭What about absorption feild negating stamina instead of healing and leavinh magicka alone, and making suppression feild target magicka, with both disabling ulti's? OFC, reduce how long they are up...Altmer Supremist, filthy spell slinger since Nerevar was assasinated0
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Aedaryl✭✭✭✭✭
✭DBoS is overpowered.
It can be anim cancel to the point you can't counter it.
Dawnbreaker need to have his DOT REMOVED or at least GROUND based instead of player based.
DBoS is the best ultimate in the game because :- it's a AoE
- Undodgeable
- Cheap
- Stun
- That deal a lot of burst damage
- + 20% vs vamp and WW
- That deal a LOT of dot damage (it's a dot that stay on player so you take at least 1 dot in the burst since u need to breakfree then you take a lot more damage overtime).
- Unpreditable and invisible with cut anim.
This is far too much when you look at other ultimate.
The DoT need to go
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Aedaryl✭✭✭✭✭
✭Also vigor is overpowered because it stack with your other stam player making stamina smallscales > all because they get 10k+ heal per second just by being stacked togever.
Magicka player can't have 10k+ HoT per second just by playing normaly and it's make a difference.
Nerf vigor by diminushing the AoE HoT that give you to ally.4
