I don't like PvP in general. Battle Ground is the only pvp activity I can tolerant because it's fast. 15m each match and you get up 10s after you die and hop right back in playing. Lesser riding, lesser lag and disconnect. And even if you lose the AP is decent.

I'm not usually a fan of PVP, so getting ganked while trying to do the PVE content there doesn't sound fun.

The only pvp I like is Battlegrounds because it’s the closest to a fps like TF2.

If it wasn’t for the pvp aspect I’d be in IC all the time. I love the atmosphere and I love the roaming bosses especially the ones in the sewers with their ominous heartbeat.its really well made but I can’t enjoy it. I’m always watching my back instead of appreciating the art.

Like others have pointed out, the ride to the sewers is tedious. The Capture the Flag dynamic is clunky, the space is too spread out. I can flip district flags by myself on a pve healer so it’s not that it’s difficult, it’s just so unnecessary.

Why no direct port in? Never understood that...

The problem is risk without reward.

You risk losing Tel Var stones and you cannot even buy something good with them anyway.
There are no good PVE drops apart from the skin that has a very low drop rate.
For the PVP aspect you hardly gain AP, there's no incentive to capture districts and the objectives are boring/one-dimensional.

I don't like loosimg telvar being the main one but...

I hate getting lost and wandering around too. I only go there with friends who I can follow.

Also, its usually empty and boring aside from players wearing IP with some beastly stats, although I dont blame them 1 bit as I would do the same if I were motivated.

There is not a single interesting furniture available from playing IC, and currently I'm doing Cyrodiil as a zerg healer mostly for the ranks that allow to buy some cool siege furnitures for the houses' defensive walls.

Stealth ganking. So cheap.

Cyrodiil, getting into the sewers is very inconvenient.

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

The two biggest reasons are that it's a bit of a pain to get to, and when do get there, it is usually dead or dominated by a single faction. The other problem is that apart from Haikejo and Alchemy mats (and a few skins/pets that most vets already have), there isnt a lot of incentive. XP doesnt matter, and AP is pretty minimal when the zone is empty.

Making it a separate instance would solve the first two problems most likely. 1-2 CP and 1 non-CP instance is all you would likely need.

As for buffing the rewards, well sky is really the limit on this one. I like the idea of expanding the loot to include other valuable crafting mats.

^ Pretty much this. ^

One of my guildmates runs a regular friday evening group in the sewers which I do regularly, but the rest of the time I rarely go there, because:-

1. It's a real pain to go solo when there's no one else around.
2. Losing telvars to every death is not very appealing.
3. The loot is mostly nothing special and drops for skin/pet are pathetically tiny.
4. Once I've done the dailies a couple of times, I find it boring to keep doing them.

When we do our friday group, however, it's great fun. Definitely a place for group play with mates.

I love when PvErs talk about PvP content as for now we have:
1. I don't like to die to players when I do PvE content (so what are you doing in PvP area? It's like going to trial without preparing gear and knowledge about trial and then saying it's to hard! PREPARE FOR PVP!)
2. Tel Vars are worthless - actually from my experience 1 TVS = 3 Gold. You can get 14k TVs per boss, and if you're lucky and nobody disturbs, you can solo kill ~10 bosses per hour. Do the math. Tel Vars are great you just need some skills to get them and bring them safely from IC.
3. My fav: no pretty furnitures to buy for Tel Vars

As a PvP player I don't need any special rewards, the fight on its own is enough of a reward for me, Tel Vars are a nice addition that I like a lot. Ganking is one of PvP mechanics and I don't have nothing against, many times the ganker gets hunted down, this is also fun, even if he doesn't have any TVs, surviving the gank and turning the odds gives a lot of satisfaction. You will never like IC in current state of you're bad at PvP that's all, don't try to destroy it for those who like it.

I am not a fan for several reasons. It takes a long time to get there, rewards are not that great to justify spending time there. Mostly it is just pve grind interupted by pvp encounters with possibility to lose telvar. So if I want to pve grind I can do it in other locations and my earnings are more predicable. If I wish to pvp I would also choose something different.
So as I see it you get worst of the two worlds - pve grind with ganking and losing your loot.

... In fact, I will put it even higher and say "I hate PvP ".

• None of my Chars are built for PvP and I do not wish to waste any precious mats in making suitable gear - or in acquiring it.
• I neither get a buzz out of losing Tel Var stones, nor from being Zerged by organised mobs.
• Travelling back from the res. point is frustrating because many times I am attacked and killed before getting back to the tunnels.
• Unlike what other players' have experienced, I have never met a courteous enemy player.
• I get lost in both the Sewers and Overland. This is partly because I have not spent enough time in IC but the main reason is that the times I have been there, I am too busy looking out for enemy players, to pay attention to where I am going.

I have completed about 2/3 of the Main Story and gathered all but 3 of the Sky-Shards. I would like to complete the Main Story - because I enjoyed that part - but I cannot see that happening in the near future. Even the thought of going to IC stresses me out, which is contrary to why I play the game.

Being a PvEer, I enjoy the NCP mobs and Bosses and have Soloed the ones I have come across. They are not the problem; it is the enemy players.

PvE mixed with PvP sucks in general due to:
- skills/morphs usually having a PvE and a PvP morph
- gear: there is gear that only works in pvp (VD, Knight-Slayer...) or in PvE (stuff with Minor Slayer...)
- CP: pvp cp points like crit resistance versus pve cp point setup...
- divine/infused versus impregn on gear

if we at least had duel spec in this game... meh, the game is not designed for mixing pve and pvp...

specific for IC:
#1 travel time / hassle to get there
#2 flags
#3 bosses
#4 mostly useless loot (if we could at least spawn our merchants so we can sell all that crap beeing thrown at us...)
#5 IP set abuse
#6 los/swift/lag abuse
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Darkness Falls in DAoC was much better