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Low Imperial City Event Turnout
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Unfadingsilence✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've made over 8 million AP and over 2 million stones bombing the zergs of EP and DC on Xbox NA all I've been seeing is groups of 50-100 in IC I'd say it's a little better this year than last year.1 -
JackDaniell✭✭✭✭✭
✭What if a player upon attacking another player (the one initiating combat only) were to get some sort of debuff in them that causes them to loose all telvar on death?
This way kamikazi ganks/bombs offer no reward unless the attacker can escape. Giving the attackee (or thier freinds) a chace to get all the stones back. And defenders still only loose half on death.
Just a thot...Ebonheart Templar
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Pink_Violinz✭✭✭✭✭I mean, for the majority of players either there is nothing to be gained or people just aren't interested.
Almost everything (I think everything) can be bought with AP, gold, or writs. Now that the skin and pet are in boxes, people can pick them up for dirt cheap. Tel Var is a near worthless currency, and the majority of the sets purchased with TV are useless or incredibly niche (except for one). The only things worthwhile are hakeijo and flowers, and flowers can be acquired in literally every zone.
The zone itself is also a terrible mix of the worst sides of PvE and PvP. It clearly favors ganking, which I can't imagine the majority of players enjoy. The amount of TV lost can add up very quickly and, depending on your luck, you can be walking back to base after an hour+ of grinding with nothing in your pockets. The flag system also broke the Arena district, which used to be an absolute blast of a permanent 3-way fight. That was the thing that kept me in the city, and with that gone I haven't really returned. I personally get incredibly anxious in small scale PvP areas like the sewers, so the zone can be just the absolute worst.
After adding all this together it's easy to see why the area is so quiet, even during an event. It caters only to those who gank and bomb, and leaves everyone else (except a few masochists) wanting more. Personally, I really want to like the IC. The White Gold Tower is one of my favorite dungeons and it's incredible to see the difference in the city between now and the third era. But unless Tel Var becomes much more worthwhile and dying isn't such a huge loss, I don't see myself spending any more time here.4 -
ChefZero✭✭✭✭Haashhtaag wrote: »If you get 2x tel var for each boss you kill
And you lose half of it when you die
And every time you die you bank your tel var
Then this event is basically allowing PvE players to get the regular amount of tel var they would get as if it was a normal time period and they didn’t lose any for dying.
That being said, it’s fun to wipe 30+ with 4-6 people.
And right there is where PVP ends.
Those 30+ PVEers log out for the night and the server is empty again.
And your 4-6 people have to find pvp elsewhere.
Its just a bad design around tel-var thievery. No event will help IC.
A redesign is required.If you get 2x tel var for each boss you kill
And you lose half of it when you die
And every time you die you bank your tel var
Then this event is basically allowing PvE players to get the regular amount of tel var they would get as if it was a normal time period and they didn’t lose any for dying.
That being said, it’s fun to wipe 30+ with 4-6 people.
And right there is where PVP ends.
Those 30+ PVEers log out for the night and the server is empty again.
And your 4-6 people have to find pvp elsewhere.
Its just a bad design around tel-var thievery. No event will help IC.
A redesign is required.
I think people need to realize IC was a PvP DLC. Like how is that not getting through to y’all?
It is not a PVP DLC, it is a PVE DLC with PVP mechanics turned on. The ultimate goal of the area is farming and not PVP-ing.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/25413In the Arena District, you can fight enemy-alliance players and Xivkyn forces, enter the Ethereal Trophy Vault, and step foot into the Imperial Arena.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/25439A brand new PvP/PvE space that includes six Imperial City Districts
Wrong, it's a PvP AND PvE DLC! Weird, PvPers never complained that they had to kill NPCs in IC..
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TheRealPotoroo✭✭✭✭✭
✭I remember the last IC event had the servers bursting. But for some reason very few seem to be participating I don't PVP so without a big group I'm easy pickings for all the hardcore PVP players. Since the event starting I've only been in 3 groups. Why is the event not as popular as it was last time?
I've never done this event. The day they protect PvE players who are there to do the quests without getting ganked by scumbags I'll be the first through the portal.PC NA, PC EU
"Instead of taking the best of the dolmens (predictable rotation), the best of the geysers (scalability based on number of players), and the best of the dragons (map location and health indicators) and adding them together to make a fun and dynamic world event scenario, they gave us....... harrowstorms." https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6850523/#Comment_68505233 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TheRealPotoroo wrote: »I remember the last IC event had the servers bursting. But for some reason very few seem to be participating I don't PVP so without a big group I'm easy pickings for all the hardcore PVP players. Since the event starting I've only been in 3 groups. Why is the event not as popular as it was last time?
I've never done this event. The day they protect PvE players who are there to do the quests without getting ganked by scumbags I'll be the first through the portal.
You can do quests without event, the event does literally nothing for quests.
It's a pvp dlc, deal with it.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Haashhtaag wrote: »If you get 2x tel var for each boss you kill
And you lose half of it when you die
And every time you die you bank your tel var
Then this event is basically allowing PvE players to get the regular amount of tel var they would get as if it was a normal time period and they didn’t lose any for dying.
That being said, it’s fun to wipe 30+ with 4-6 people.
And right there is where PVP ends.
Those 30+ PVEers log out for the night and the server is empty again.
And your 4-6 people have to find pvp elsewhere.
Its just a bad design around tel-var thievery. No event will help IC.
A redesign is required.If you get 2x tel var for each boss you kill
And you lose half of it when you die
And every time you die you bank your tel var
Then this event is basically allowing PvE players to get the regular amount of tel var they would get as if it was a normal time period and they didn’t lose any for dying.
That being said, it’s fun to wipe 30+ with 4-6 people.
And right there is where PVP ends.
Those 30+ PVEers log out for the night and the server is empty again.
And your 4-6 people have to find pvp elsewhere.
Its just a bad design around tel-var thievery. No event will help IC.
A redesign is required.
I think people need to realize IC was a PvP DLC. Like how is that not getting through to y’all?
It is not a PVP DLC, it is a PVE DLC with PVP mechanics turned on. The ultimate goal of the area is farming and not PVP-ing.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/25413In the Arena District, you can fight enemy-alliance players and Xivkyn forces, enter the Ethereal Trophy Vault, and step foot into the Imperial Arena.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/25439A brand new PvP/PvE space that includes six Imperial City Districts
Wrong, it's a PvP AND PvE DLC! Weird, PvPers never complained that they had to kill NPCs in IC..
I complained.
The only pvp dlc since the game is released and its infested with pve things.
Pvp'ers got a half done dlc and thats it.
Pve'ers have had like what 10 pve dlc? But because the 1 pvp dlc doesn't cater to their carebear needs they want it changed!
PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...4 -
TheRealPotoroo✭✭✭✭✭
✭leepalmer95 wrote: »TheRealPotoroo wrote: »I remember the last IC event had the servers bursting. But for some reason very few seem to be participating I don't PVP so without a big group I'm easy pickings for all the hardcore PVP players. Since the event starting I've only been in 3 groups. Why is the event not as popular as it was last time?
I've never done this event. The day they protect PvE players who are there to do the quests without getting ganked by scumbags I'll be the first through the portal.
You can do quests without event, the event does literally nothing for quests.
It's a pvp dlc, deal with it.
No, it's not a PVP zone. It's a bastardized hybrid zone that does not work which is why nobody goes there. I will not "deal with it", gankers ruin the game for decent people and ZOS should wipe them out.Edited by TheRealPotoroo on September 12, 2018 11:52PMPC NA, PC EU
"Instead of taking the best of the dolmens (predictable rotation), the best of the geysers (scalability based on number of players), and the best of the dragons (map location and health indicators) and adding them together to make a fun and dynamic world event scenario, they gave us....... harrowstorms." https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6850523/#Comment_68505236 -
MakoFore✭✭✭✭✭
✭1. poor game and server performance.
2. lack of combat balance and "fairness"
1 and 2 - have led to a downturn in overall pvp turnout since the last main patch. they really s#%T the sheets on that patch.
3. lack of incenctives and new rewards on this event. alot of players have the scamp, the skin- why else would they go? not providiong at least a new costume, title or motif? just plain lazy on Zos's part.2 -
LadyLethalla✭✭✭✭✭
✭Every event I end up losing thousands of stones to a combination of extreme lag and gankers before I give up. Still haven't gotten the skin either.
I do enjoy a bit of TV farming, just not the associated loss.x-TallyCat-x // PC EU DC - For the Covenant! // ESO Platinum trophy - 16th May 2017.
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Grimm13✭✭✭✭✭
✭[quote="Tommy_The_Gun;c-5441865"
Or maybe because it is a PvE & PvP mix and is not good for both PvE players & PvP players as PvP interrupts PvE and vice versa. [/quote]
What if they had two choices for IC zone, one as it is, the other strictly PVE with no item port to base.
I say port as with no pvp there needs to be a risk of running back for possible loss.
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Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Someone is selling 3 StoneFire scamps for 50k
No way I’m going to get enough gold in time to get it.
Edit: just stored some coin in the bank- got 9,000ish gold in there. The struggle is real.
Uh.... I just started playing late June. Right now, I have 9 girls doing all the writs every day, and 575k in the bank - from writs alone.
I'll send you the 50k if you're PCNA.2 -
Haashhtaag✭✭✭✭✭
✭Haashhtaag wrote: »If you get 2x tel var for each boss you kill
And you lose half of it when you die
And every time you die you bank your tel var
Then this event is basically allowing PvE players to get the regular amount of tel var they would get as if it was a normal time period and they didn’t lose any for dying.
That being said, it’s fun to wipe 30+ with 4-6 people.
And right there is where PVP ends.
Those 30+ PVEers log out for the night and the server is empty again.
And your 4-6 people have to find pvp elsewhere.
Its just a bad design around tel-var thievery. No event will help IC.
A redesign is required.If you get 2x tel var for each boss you kill
And you lose half of it when you die
And every time you die you bank your tel var
Then this event is basically allowing PvE players to get the regular amount of tel var they would get as if it was a normal time period and they didn’t lose any for dying.
That being said, it’s fun to wipe 30+ with 4-6 people.
And right there is where PVP ends.
Those 30+ PVEers log out for the night and the server is empty again.
And your 4-6 people have to find pvp elsewhere.
Its just a bad design around tel-var thievery. No event will help IC.
A redesign is required.
I think people need to realize IC was a PvP DLC. Like how is that not getting through to y’all?
It is not a PVP DLC, it is a PVE DLC with PVP mechanics turned on. The ultimate goal of the area is farming and not PVP-ing.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/25413In the Arena District, you can fight enemy-alliance players and Xivkyn forces, enter the Ethereal Trophy Vault, and step foot into the Imperial Arena.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/25439A brand new PvP/PvE space that includes six Imperial City Districts
Wrong, it's a PvP AND PvE DLC! Weird, PvPers never complained that they had to kill NPCs in IC..
Pre nerfs to NPCs, flag bosses, and middle boss and One Tamriel introduction. I think a lot of people complained about having to kill them but that's because not everyone had a lot of CP then and they were OP.0 -
Reistr_the_Unbroken✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Someone is selling 3 StoneFire scamps for 50k
No way I’m going to get enough gold in time to get it.
Edit: just stored some coin in the bank- got 9,000ish gold in there. The struggle is real.
Uh.... I just started playing late June. Right now, I have 9 girls doing all the writs every day, and 575k in the bank - from writs alone.
I'll send you the 50k if you're PCNA.
Sadly I’m Xbox NA
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Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well. That sucks. Sorry.... I don't have consoles, only ever (since 1984) PC. I'd suggest making a couple other toons and start doing crafting writs. Easy gold. Though you do have to get out and harvest mats. On my 9 girls, in about an hour and a half a day I make 22k appx. Per day. Without breaking a sweat. The payout goes up as they get levels too - right now I have two 24s, two 21s, an 11, a 12, two 13s, a 14 and a 15. So the moral of this story is - the game gives you a really easy way to accumulate gold. You should use it.0 -
Maryal✭✭✭✭✭
✭During this event (as in the past) there are more people in IC than there would otherwise be and with that more sewer gankers. I won't go to IC during the event because of the increased number of sewer gankers. Constantly having to watch your back for gankers is the ultimate immersion breaker... it sucks all the fun out of rp'ing in IC.3 -
Wing✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭well a lot of people do not like being fodder and spending time grinding just for a few trolls to come take your stuff
--ON THIS NOTE--
there are generally good pvp players that are actually trying to find other pvp player in IC to fight, they do exist, and that's fine.
however there are more bad pvp players that are slightly better then the pve players looking to prey on those they can ACTUALLY defeat and take their stuff and feel good about themselves.
--END OF NOTE--
pve players don't like it, voiced there opinions, and the response from PvP'ers was "if you don't like it don't come" . . .so PvE players stopped coming.
as a result the middle of the road PvP'ers that cannot actually fight real skilled pvp players and were just there to farm pve players left as well, as they get munched by legit pvp players looking for a fight.
and as a result of that your left with only the actual pvp players that are small in number and spread out over multiple servers and areas of the zone per server trying to find a fight that would be better found in BG's
--CONCLUSION--
pvevp does not work, in any game, this same issue of pve players vs bad pvp players vs actual good pvp players come up every time, and the same things happen, the pve players leave, so the pve killers leave, and all your left with is a hardcore group of actual pvp players left that munch anyone dumb enough to give it a try after the fact.
--HOWEVER--
we still need IC to be its own thing and its own queue, people have been asking for this forever and it would be really cool.
also
I really think we just need a PvE version of Cyrodill and IC at this point, give the people that just want to do the quests, farm, fish, or explore a place to go, it does not hurt anyone, leave the pvp servers to the people who want to pvp
(I enjoy eso pvp by the way)
ESO player since beta.
game got too disappointing.10 -
SydneyGrey✭✭✭✭✭
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Looks like some people are buying them low and reselling for higher. There's no way they're worth 50k right now.Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Someone is selling 3 StoneFire scamps for 50k
No way I’m going to get enough gold in time to get it.
Edit: just stored some coin in the bank- got 9,000ish gold in there. The struggle is real.
I just saw one for sale on the EU server this afternoon for 4,500, and saw people selling them on NA in chat for 15,000. Someone is buying the cheap ones to flip.
Edited by SydneyGrey on September 13, 2018 3:27AM1 -
ConeOfSilence✭✭✭✭Go to IC in the event , no thanks, better off doing it when there is no event as the place is deserted most of the time. PvE and PvP don't mix that well make it a separate thing.1 -
shaielzafine✭✭✭✭✭1. poor game and server performance.
2. lack of combat balance and "fairness"
1 and 2 - have led to a downturn in overall pvp turnout since the last main patch. they really s#%T the sheets on that patch.
3. lack of incenctives and new rewards on this event. alot of players have the scamp, the skin- why else would they go? not providiong at least a new costume, title or motif? just plain lazy on Zos's part.
This exactly. I won't even bother with the event this year. With the way things are "balanced" right now + bugs + exploits and iffy framerates, I'd have a better time just doing pve content. Until ZOS gets a good combat team or makes significant improvements so we have no sprint bug and skill lag, I'm just going to pvp on another game. I am just going to rage and get frustrated standing like an idiot when I can't cast any abilities or if people are using exploits again in pvp. I would be much happier just doing writs, trial then logging out to play WoW. Besides, why should I bother going to IC during the event when I can make more tel var solo or duoing the Imperial City bosses while there are less people? Only the top 12 dps can have drops from molag bal or any of the bosses, there's really no reason to hop in with the zerg so I can have some hakeijos. I can just buy those drops with gold from guild traders as well.Edited by shaielzafine on September 13, 2018 4:25AM1 -
ConeOfSilence✭✭✭✭Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Someone is selling 3 StoneFire scamps for 50k
No way I’m going to get enough gold in time to get it.
Edit: just stored some coin in the bank- got 9,000ish gold in there. The struggle is real.
Far out I make more than that per day just turning in 8 crafting writs. I usually make 100-150k per week in selling stuff. Join a trading guild and you can make some coin.0 -
ConeOfSilence✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Well. That sucks. Sorry.... I don't have consoles, only ever (since 1984) PC. I'd suggest making a couple other toons and start doing crafting writs. Easy gold. Though you do have to get out and harvest mats. On my 9 girls, in about an hour and a half a day I make 22k appx. Per day. Without breaking a sweat. The payout goes up as they get levels too - right now I have two 24s, two 21s, an 11, a 12, two 13s, a 14 and a 15. So the moral of this story is - the game gives you a really easy way to accumulate gold. You should use it.
You should use some of that coin you have made to buy some Incinerate gear to lvl up a few toons ( spend money to make money ), I have 4 lvl 50's and 4 low levels. I do it this way because you don't use up all your lvl 160 mats as quick with 4 lvl 50's and you still get gold mats and surveys from the low level crafter's with the mats being plentiful at that lvl, the lvl 50's giving you gold writs to sell also. Join a trading guild also helps to turn over excess gold mats.0 -
FloppyTouch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Feel like I'm playing a different game then OP sewers packed with players over 30 in the center farming skin and pet with red and yellow trying to jump. Up top I see 2 groups with pugs of every faction flipping flags and killing bosses at least 150+ players altogether . This is on xb NAUnfadingsilence wrote: »I've made over 8 million AP and over 2 million stones bombing the zergs of EP and DC on Xbox NA all I've been seeing is groups of 50-100 in IC I'd say it's a little better this year than last year.
This^Edited by FloppyTouch on September 13, 2018 5:20AM0 -
geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Constantly having to watch your back for gankers is the ultimate immersion breaker... it sucks all the fun out of rp'ing in IC.
truly different strokes...
I primarily solo pvp...IC during this event heightens the sense of being on your own...
I like that...Edited by geonsocal on September 13, 2018 5:29AMPVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place4 -
DanteYoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I didn't do the first two anniversaries and i have no interest in the third one..
I do not play mmorpgs to be *** by mentally unstable gamers..
PvP can die by a thousand cuts..Edited by DanteYoda on September 13, 2018 5:32AM3 -
kendellking_chaosb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think IC needs all the PvE removed. PvE has a place in the game but it’s a PvP zone and we only have the one zone PvE has the whole map. Yes we have battle grounds but I can’t go in there solo if you are paired with one or two per-made groups it’s just not fun.
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albesca✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »I'd suggest making a couple other toons and start doing crafting writs. Easy gold. Though you do have to get out and harvest mats. On my 9 girls, in about an hour and a half a day I make 22k appx. Per day. Without breaking a sweat. The payout goes up as they get levels too - right now I have two 24s, two 21s, an 11, a 12, two 13s, a 14 and a 15. So the moral of this story is - the game gives you a really easy way to accumulate gold. You should use it.
Daily crafting writs are my main source of income too, ingame, I do them on two characters semi regularly (let's say five times a week) and I earn a mimimum of 12k a week.
Sadly, a hour and a half a day is pretty much all my playing time, having a day job and two children.
And that's also the problem with IC: I can play only in the evening and there's a fair chance that at the end of the day I find myself with more or less the same tel var stones I had at the beginning.
PC EU
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MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The concept behind the zone is flawed.
It's a PvE zone where you acquire currency by killing mobs efficiently. But it's also a PvP zone where other players can steal said currency from you by killing you.
The problem is that the builds you use in PvE are completely different from the builds you use in PvP (in that PvE builds cannot kill other players or survive their attacks). Therefore, PvE players have no way to defend themselves against the PvP players in the zone, making it an unpleasant experience.Edited by MLGProPlayer on September 13, 2018 8:32AM5