Whats with Halls of Fabrication

sampol212 · September 2018

I play on PC EU and really struggle to get into this trial. In Craglorn people only spam HRC over and over, sometimes AA and CR. Never seen HOF. I'm in few guilds but it seems no one is interested in this trial.

Its a pity because I need the Master Architect set and would love to farm it but...

Maybe some of you know any EU guild that have fair amount of members so theres a bigger chance dor success.

thx in advance

JesQu · September 2018

Cause it's one of the hardest to do with pugz.

sampol212 · September 2018

JesQu wrote: »

Cause it's one of the hardest to do with pugz.

I did it few times always with random people with no problem.

I'm interested in normal difficulty.

Turelus · September 2018

Just spam zone with "experienced leader leading nHoF" and see if you can build a group.

you could also try the looking for group forum section and see if it's possible to build a group from there.

sampol212 · September 2018

Turelus wrote: »

Just spam zone with "experienced leader leading nHoF" and see if you can build a group.

you could also try the looking for group forum section and see if it's possible to build a group from there.

Thats the problem - I managed to get few people but always not enough number.

Wish there was a finder for normal trials only. That whole looking for people is ruining the whole experience for me.

red_emu · September 2018

I'm just here for the "I soloed vHOF a million times, git gud" comments

Erraln · September 2018

The first boss fails groups who can't communicate the mechanics to each other, and act properly on the knowledge as a team. So people who don't listen, don't pay attention, and who are slow on the uptake all can't pass the first boss.

Then, the rest of the bosses aren't far behind in the do-this-right-or-people-die department. Critical burn windows, tank alternation mechanics, and so on... It's really not something many people would enjoy on a lazy afternoon. I think that Zeni succeeded in making something too hard for most non-raiders, even on normal mode.

pauli133 · September 2018

The mechanic density is a bit too high in HoF, and there's just too much in the dungeon - too many boss fights, too many tedious linking sections. Someone drops? Go cook dinner while the replacement catches up. It tips more towards exhausting, rather than enjoyable.

Nobody says "Halls of Fabrication, that sounds like fun". And so, nobody plays it.

jaschacasadiob16_ESO · September 2018

sampol212 wrote: »

I play on PC EU and really struggle to get into this trial. In Craglorn people only spam HRC over and over, sometimes AA and CR. Never seen HOF. I'm in few guilds but it seems no one is interested in this trial.

You can thank Alcast for the HR revamp.
Some month ago nobody really cared about it.

Lyserus · September 2018

One of the most interesting run to me （since I never played vet trial, nHOF is the most chanllenging there is）

boombazookajd · September 2018

My trials guild runs HOF every Sunday. I think you need to look into joining a guild. It's a hot spot considering the architect gear and the super duper love mag blades are currently getting.

DuskMarine · September 2018

JesQu wrote: »

Cause it's one of the hardest to do with pugz.

not just that its just not a fun trial to run compared to the others.

Hostee · September 2018

I soloed vHOF at 500 cp, git gud!

JesQu · September 2018

DuskMarine wrote: »

JesQu wrote: »

Cause it's one of the hardest to do with pugz.

not just that its just not a fun trial to run compared to the others.

It's long and quite annoying as well

Inarre · September 2018

Every time I join nhof it goes the same way.

We get to the first boss, the leader says **** all. I ask who has purge and interrupts. The healers say they have purge, no one has crushing shock so we go for it and hope the healers can breath of life me as stamina basher. We wipe instantly. I say we need more purge and the healers say they are running extended ritual "just use the synergy".

After fighting with the group for awhile over who is responsible for what we find out no one has an actual purge except for me (on my stam dps who isn't even with the group), no one else can interrupt and everyone leaves.

The leader stays silent the entire time.

I no longer join nhof.

kylewwefan · September 2018

Cause you need purge. PvP skill. Sorry. Mutagen and ritual aren’t gonna cut it. It’s not casual friendly at all. Long. Don’t get anything good out of it.

I’m hardcore filthy casual as it gets, but don’t have 4 hours to trudge through this place very often. Oh yeah. That time frame. It’s because players are dropping like flys the whole time, needing to be replaced because it’s taking too long.

You can run normal Craglorn trials in 15 or 20 minutes. MOL in 25 minutes or so. Cloudrest or AS, 25 minutes. Even if things go well in hof with a good group, it’s close to an hour. And still, not many people want anything out of there.

MLGProPlayer · September 2018

1. It's hard
2. The only useful gear it drops is designed for the worst/least popular class in the game (warden)

f047ys3v3n · September 2018

sampol212 wrote: »

I play on PC EU and really struggle to get into this trial. In Craglorn people only spam HRC over and over, sometimes AA and CR. Never seen HOF. I'm in few guilds but it seems no one is interested in this trial.

Its a pity because I need the Master Architect set and would love to farm it but...

Maybe some of you know any EU guild that have fair amount of members so theres a bigger chance dor success.

thx in advance

Really, its a number of things.
1) The gear is very situational and most, including myself, are less that impressed so nobody really want to farm a nHoF.
2) It is scaled so normal mode is more difficult than some vet trials. Realistically, pug groups aren't going to succeed. The mechanics are actually fatal on normal if not done.
3) It is long, an hour or so even with a good group.

Overall, HoF is an interesting trial with some good mechanics. It is the last real trial that ZOS has done with real mechanics instead of just piling bosses on top of each other. It is clearly the least run of the trials though and vet suffers most of the same problems with enticing people to run as normal does.

karekiz · September 2018

It has nothing to do with difficulty.
It has nothing to do with length.
It has nothing to do with mechanics.

It has everything thing to do with not being labeled BIS.

You can bet yourself if it was labeled BIS for the FOTM build there would be a line outside.

Valrien · September 2018

karekiz wrote: »

It has nothing to do with difficulty.
It has nothing to do with length.
It has nothing to do with mechanics.

It has everything thing to do with not being labeled BIS.

You can bet yourself if it was labeled BIS for the FOTM build there would be a line outside.

Well, it's BiS for Magden, which is a better DPS than Sorc with it so...that's something

karekiz · September 2018

Valrien wrote: »

Well, it's BiS for Magden, which is a better DPS than Sorc with it so...that's something

Never really said Sorc was FOTM. The amount of people playing Mag Wardens....is still probably lower than Mag NB.

Valrien · September 2018

karekiz wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

Well, it's BiS for Magden, which is a better DPS than Sorc with it so...that's something

Never really said Sorc was FOTM. The amount of people playing Mag Wardens....is still probably lower than Mag NB.

I was just making a point how the gear is useful for someone.

And in an 8-NB group I feel as if one or two might use MA set to buff the others since Soul Harvest is just as cheap as the bear.